The Eternal Son

[DavidTree]

I am not so sure about the "Eternal Son" position. I have always considered the Trinity to be co-equal in every way in eternity past. The way I see it, The respective positions we see today, "Father" "Son" and "Holy Spirit" are only in respect of their roles taken in creation and redemption. Anyone of them could have just as easily fulfilled any role. However, once creation was determined they each took on the position we see now. I won't debate it if challenged though. The mystery of the Triune God is way above my head. All I know is this:
1) The Father is YHVH
2)The Son is YHVH
3) The Holy Spirit is YHVH
These three are One ("echad" unity out of plurality)

You have the PURE TRUTH = never let anyone convince you otherwise

 

[101G]

You have the PURE TRUTH = never let anyone convince you otherwise

These three are One ("echad" unity out of plurality)

yes, the ECHAD is a plurality of only "ONE" Person.

101G.

 

[DavidTree]

yes, the ECHAD is a plurality of only "ONE" Person.

101G.

No

ECAHD means that the PLURALITY of THREE are ECHAD ELOHIM

 

[101G]

No

ECAHD means that the PLURALITY of THREE are ECHAD ELOHIM

ERROR, scripture, Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:" and
ONE: H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj.
1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258

note definition #2. ... do you know and UNDERSTAND what definition #2 is saying?

101G

 

[DavidTree]

ERROR, scripture, Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:" and
ONE: H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj.
1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258

note definition #2. ... do you know and UNDERSTAND what definition #2 is saying?

101G

The YHWH our ELOHIM is ECHAD YHWH

 

[civic]

I am not so sure about the "Eternal Son" position. I have always considered the Trinity to be co-equal in every way in eternity past. The way I see it, The respective positions we see today, "Father" "Son" and "Holy Spirit" are only in respect of their roles taken in creation and redemption. Anyone of them could have just as easily fulfilled any role. However, once creation was determined they each took on the position we see now. I won't debate it if challenged though. The mystery of the Triune God is way above my head. All I know is this:
1) The Father is YHVH
2)The Son is YHVH
3) The Holy Spirit is YHVH
These three are One ("echad" unity out of plurality)

No worries I believe all 3 Persons are Eternal without beginning.

 

[Complete]

No worries I believe all 3 Persons are Eternal without beginning.

Hello there,

Our understanding must bow and our spirit worship, for nothing we can say will ever do justice to this subject.

In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[101G]

The YHWH our ELOHIM is ECHAD YHWH

GINOLJC, to all
ok, "The YHWH our ELOHIM is ECHAD YHWH", but do you understand how "ELOHIM" is in the plurality of the ECHAD as YHWH?

question, "is YHWH a separate and distinct induvial(s) of himself, or the EQUAL SHARE of himself in Ordinal degenerations of TIME, PLACE, ORDER, and RANK, as the definition states?".

ECHAD: H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj.
1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258

Notice your use of definition #1. ... as a united one as two or three persons. but watch how the bible confirms 101G used of definition 2. (as an ordinal) first. scripture. Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

this term "Beginning" describe, and support 101G use of ECHAD/ONE for God here in Genesis 1 as well as God that is found in Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:" and else where in the bible.

BEGINNING: H7225 רֵאשִׁית re'shiyth (ray-sheeth') n-f.
1. the first, in place, time, order or rank.
2. (specifically) a firstfruit.
[from the same as H7218]
KJV: beginning, chief(-est), first(-fruits, part, time), principal thing.
Root(s): H7218

there is the conformation of God as the ECHAD of himself as the "FIRST" in Ordinal Designation of TIME, PLACE, ORDER, and RANK. These definitions confirm 101G use of ECHAD.

REVELATION: God is the ECHAD/Ordinal Designation of his OWNSELF in the ORDER of First and Last in TIME, PLACE, and RANK, which means Jesus is "First"/Spirit/LORD/Father/Alpha/Beginning/Root and "Last"/spirit/Lord/Son/Omega/Offspring, as his own-self, EQUAL SHARE in flesh that which was to come.

101G.