The Error of "Sin is Sin"

[charismaticlady]

Yes, all sin is missing the mark of perfection.

But we should not teach that "sin is sin." There are sins unto death, but also sins not unto death. 1 John 5:16-17. It is best to know how God (in judging) thinks.

After being born again of the Spirit we cannot commit a sin unto death, 1 John 3:9. We are clean, John 15:3.

But one who is born again and WALKS in the Spirit will commit sins not unto death (unintentional sins) from not being mature in all fruit of the Spirit that the blood of Jesus cleanses as we continue to grow in the Lord, 1 John 1:7. This verse is not including sins unto death that we already cannot commit. The church at large is ignorant of this distinction.

2 Peter 1:2-11 shows that once the fruit of the Spirit are mature, we will NEVER STUMBLE. That can be in this lifetime that many in the church do not believe because of our body that is aging and corrupting. Sin has nothing to do with our body. Our spirit and soul controls our bodies, not the other way around. That is why only our spirit and soul are what are born again now to be saved. They are what makes up our nature. Sin is "taken away," 1 John 3:4-5. It wouldn't be complete if Jesus left us with a sin nature. No, lawlessness is what is taken from our nature leaving us with one nature - one that partakes of the divine nature of God.

A born again Spirit-filled Christian who walks in the Spirit continuously is saved. But that is another belief the church doesn't understand as they prime the church for failure, as they teach a license to sin but do not admit it. Jude 1:4.

 

[Duane]

The phrase "sin is sin" highlights that any violation of God's law, regardless of its perceived severity, separates individuals from God. While some interpretations suggest all sins have equal weight, others acknowledge that sins can have varying degrees of consequence and impact.

To understand this we first must understand sin. 1 John 3:4 defines sin as lawlessness: "Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness." In essence, any act, thought, or intention that contradicts God's holy standard can be considered a sin.
It is clear that any sin, regardless of the human-perceived magnitude, causes a separation between us and God. Despite the equality of sin in separating us from God, the Bible indicates that not all sins are the same in terms of their consequences and their level of offense to God.

But if we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9

 

[charismaticlady]

The phrase "sin is sin" highlights that any violation of God's law, regardless of its perceived severity, separates individuals from God. While some interpretations suggest all sins have equal weight, others acknowledge that sins can have varying degrees of consequence and impact.

To understand this we first must understand sin. 1 John 3:4 defines sin as lawlessness: "Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness." In essence, any act, thought, or intention that contradicts God's holy standard can be considered a sin.
It is clear that any sin, regardless of the human-perceived magnitude, causes a separation between us and God. Despite the equality of sin in separating us from God, the Bible indicates that not all sins are the same in terms of their consequences and their level of offense to God.

But if we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9

It is the apostle John that teaches the difference. Lawlessness is sin unto death. Jesus takes lawlessness/death out of our nature. (I experienced Him doing that to me when in 1977 I was trapped in adultery, and literally felt a heavy weight leave my body. I felt light as a feather and I couldn't stop smiling to the point my cheeks hurt. LOL)

1 John 5;16:17
16 If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that. 17 All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death.

Did you know that there can also come a point where we will not even be committing sins not unto death? Yes, 2 Peter 1:5-11. They are not lawlessness. Only lawlessness is spiritual death. Sins not unto death are not.

 

[Phoebe]

I like this view on sin leading to death:

A rejection of Christ. The primary understanding of sin leading to death is a deliberate and persistent rejection of Jesus Christ as the Son of God and the savior. This isn't a one-time mistake or a struggle with sin, but a conscious and ongoing turning away from God's offer of salvation.

Like you are drowning and you are thrown a life preserver and refuse to grab hold of it.

 

[charismaticlady]

I like this view on sin leading to death:

A rejection of Christ. The primary understanding of sin leading to death is a deliberate and persistent rejection of Jesus Christ as the Son of God and the savior. This isn't a one-time mistake or a struggle with sin, but a conscious and ongoing turning away from God's offer of salvation.

Like you are drowning and you are thrown a life preserver and refuse to grab hold of it.

But John is writing about seeing a BROTHER committing a sin unto death, not to even pray about it, so that interpretation is wrong in this case. Also physical death, rather than spiritual death. It is about apostasy.

 

[Phoebe]

The meaning of 1 John 5:16 revolves around the themes of intercessory prayer and sin. In this verse, the Apostle John emphasizes the importance of praying for others, particularly when they commit a sin that does not lead to death. It suggests that believers should be vigilant in their spiritual oversight of one another, motivated by love. The verse also introduces the concept of a "sin that leads to death," which has sparked debate among interpreters regarding its implications, whether it refers to spiritual or physical death. Ultimately, the message encourages faith in God and the power of prayer while acknowledging the complexities of sin and free will.

We find an example of a sin that leads to death in Acts 5. There, Ananias and Sapphira lie to the Holy Spirit (Acts 5:3), and they die as a result. Paul mentions another example of a sin that leads to death in 1 Corinthians 11:30. Some who were abusing the Lord’s Supper had become sick and had even died. These are the only two clear instances in the New Testament of believers who committed sins unto death. John mentions a sin unto death in his first epistle, but he does not offer any specifics regarding what the sin is. He is speaking of categories of sin, not pointing out specific sins. Got?

 

[charismaticlady]

The meaning of 1 John 5:16 revolves around the themes of intercessory prayer and sin. In this verse, the Apostle John emphasizes the importance of praying for others, particularly when they commit a sin that does not lead to death. It suggests that believers should be vigilant in their spiritual oversight of one another, motivated by love. The verse also introduces the concept of a "sin that leads to death," which has sparked debate among interpreters regarding its implications, whether it refers to spiritual or physical death. Ultimately, the message encourages faith in God and the power of prayer while acknowledging the complexities of sin and free will.

I would not think that we are forbidden from praying for a brother or sister in the Lord that is suicidal, so I can't agree. But thank you for responding. You will find more agree with you than me.

 

[Phoebe]

I would not think that we are forbidden from praying for a brother or sister in the Lord that is suicidal, so I can't agree. But thank you for responding. You will find more agree with you than me.

Did I bring up suicidal? Also it not a contest.. more or less kind of thing.

 

[Dizerner]

After being born again of the Spirit we cannot commit a sin unto death

Eternal Security is a very dangerous and evil doctrine.

We must realize none of us is beyond apostasy if we let our heart be hardened.

 

[charismaticlady]

Eternal Security is a very dangerous and evil doctrine.

We must realize none of us is beyond apostasy if we let our heart be hardened.

Yes, I agree, and also I do not believe in OSAS.

That is why I teach we need to abide in Christ so He can abide in us. What are you thinking about when you wake up in the morning? That is one way you can know if Christ is in you.