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His Nature as a term is not understood
because esau and the evil realm has trained
people to believe He created this world and body
and that this substandard cosmos and reality is His Nature..
NO.
The Doctrine of Divine Simplicity
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His Nature as a term is not understood
because esau and the evil realm has trained
people to believe He created this world and body
and that this substandard cosmos and reality is His Nature..
NO.
Cryptic today?
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you claimed i was following other gods , multiple gods etc..
when I'd already stated the first commandment was valid, in a previous post..
so now what are you asking since it feels a bit badgering..
He, IEUE is God.
I still do not see how your opening post to me was relevant to what I stated
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No. If you go to your hebrew, and the OT, the letters of God's name are there, as
IEUE, but read right to left.
The transliteration of the fours letters are "He Who Gives Breathing"...
just as I said.
You can also read in Josephus of this. In other posts I've quoted the relevant section
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I don't know what opening post you mean.
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Is this the post i replied to ?
I do not adhere to lexicons. I am not interested in what esau's small or large G means..
the text is corrupt. to me, 'having deity' in eden means being "in his Nature", which I already explained,
listening to Him and sealed to Him
I ve answered the rest.
We will see how scholarly they are.
That is not a rebuttal
sorry, noted Greek scholars disagree with you
examples
THIS INTERPRETATION HAS THE SUPPORT OF A.T. ROBINSON, P.W. SCHMIEDEL, MOULTON, BLASS DEBRUNNER, DANA AND MANTEY, BRUCE METZGER, REYMOND ETC
The Granville Sharp Rule states, “When the copulative kai connects two nouns of the same case, [viz. nouns (either substantive or adjective, or participles) of personal description, respecting office, dignity, affinity, or connexion, and attributes, properties, or qualities, good or ill], if the article ho, or any of its cases, precedes the first of the said nouns or participles, and is not repeated before the second noun or participle, the latter always relates to the same person that is expressed or described by the first noun orparticiple” (Remarks on the Uses of the Definitive Article, 3).In simpler terms, the Granville Sharp Rule says that when two singular common nouns are used to describe a person, and those two nouns are joined by an additive conjunction, and the definite article precedes the first noun but not the second, then both nouns refer to the same person. This principle of semantics holds true in all languages. For example, consider this sentence:We met with the owner and the curator of the museum, Mr. Holton.In the preceding sentence, the definite article the is used twice, before both owner and curator. The curator is obviously Mr. Holton, but the owner could be a different person. Did we meet with one or two people? Is Mr. Holton the owner of the museum as well as the curator? The grammatical construction leaves the question open. However, the following sentence removes the ambiguity:We met with the owner and curator of the museum, Mr. Holton.In the second example, the definite article the is only used once, before the first noun. This means that the two nouns, joined by and, are both in apposition to the name of the person. In other words, Mr. Holton is both owner and curator. The Granville Sharp Rule makes it clear that we are referring to the same individual.Two of the New Testament verses associated with the Granville Sharp Rule are Titus 2:13 and 2 Peter 1:1. The KJV translates Titus 2:13 as, “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of thegreat God and our Saviour Jesus Christ.” In the original Greek, the words for “God” and “Savior” are joined by kai, and the definite article ho is only used once, preceding “God”; according to the GranvilleSharp Rule, both God and Savior must refer to the same person, namely, Jesus Christ. The NASB 1977 renders the verse more literally: “Looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus.”Similarly, 2 Peter 1:1 refers to “our God and Savior Jesus Christ.” Following Granville Sharp’s rule, Jesus Christ is clearly identified as both “God” and “Savior,” another example of the Bible’s teaching of the deity of Christ. The grammatical construction of the Greek makes it plain: definite article + singular noun + copulative conjunction + singular noun = the same person.Though the Granville Sharp Rule may seem arcane, the concept has an important impact regarding Bible translation and our understanding of the nature of Christ. The New Testament passages where thisrule applies highlight the deity of Jesus Christ. He is more than the Messiah; He is God.Recommended Resource: How Biblical Languages Work: A Student’s Guide to Learning Hebrew & Greek by Peter Silzer & Thomas Finley
and you have already noted that calling Jesus the one lord does not stop the father from also being lord. So why would calling the Father the one god prevent Christ from also being God
Jesus has a God= the Father. The Father does not have a God.
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'For our rejoicing is this,
the testimony of our conscience,
that in simplicity and godly sincerity,
not with fleshly wisdom,
but by the grace of God,
we have had our conversation in the world,
and more abundantly to you-ward.
For we write none other things unto you,
than what ye read or acknowledge;
and I trust ye shall acknowledge even to the end;'
( 2 Cor. 1:12-13)
'But I fear, lest by any means,
as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty,
so your minds should be corrupted
from the simplicity that is in Christ.
For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus,
whom we have not preached,
or if ye receive another spirit,
which ye have not received,
or another gospel,
which ye have not accepted,
ye might well bear with him.'
(2 Cor. 11:3-4)
'Till we all come in the unity of the faith,
and of the knowledge of the Son of God,
unto a perfect man,
unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
That we henceforth be no more children,
tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine,
by the sleight of men,
and cunning craftiness,
whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
But speaking the truth in love,
may grow up into Him in all things,
which is the head, even Christ:'
(Eph 4:13-15)
the testimony of our conscience,
that in simplicity and godly sincerity,
not with fleshly wisdom,
but by the grace of God,
we have had our conversation in the world,
and more abundantly to you-ward.
For we write none other things unto you,
than what ye read or acknowledge;
and I trust ye shall acknowledge even to the end;'
( 2 Cor. 1:12-13)
'But I fear, lest by any means,
as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty,
so your minds should be corrupted
from the simplicity that is in Christ.
For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus,
whom we have not preached,
or if ye receive another spirit,
which ye have not received,
or another gospel,
which ye have not accepted,
ye might well bear with him.'
(2 Cor. 11:3-4)
'Till we all come in the unity of the faith,
and of the knowledge of the Son of God,
unto a perfect man,
unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
That we henceforth be no more children,
tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine,
by the sleight of men,
and cunning craftiness,
whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
But speaking the truth in love,
may grow up into Him in all things,
which is the head, even Christ:'
(Eph 4:13-15)
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the term man in eden
is Not the same meaning and term
as the term man upon this prison earth,
now impotent and imprisoned in flesh
long lists of scholars and experts and commentaries
may create traditions of how to think of things..
but remain Anulled since this is exactly how the
israelites went into captivity...by following traditions
instead of God.
is Not the same meaning and term
as the term man upon this prison earth,
now impotent and imprisoned in flesh
long lists of scholars and experts and commentaries
may create traditions of how to think of things..
but remain Anulled since this is exactly how the
israelites went into captivity...by following traditions
instead of God.
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"in the 11th century the number ‘zero’ was introduced in the West, brought to
her by the Arabs that had commercial contacts with the Far east : until then
the Roman numeral system was used that knew no ‘zero’ so that any trade
in financial aspect would greatly benefit from that introduction —
but Western man was afraid for the ‘0’ : though in the Eastern religion that
number was positive as the Nirvana , to the christian West she represented
the absolute Nothing , the god-less abyss of loneliness and destruction ."
zero is not good. excerpt is from my own website.
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Jesus has a God= before he came to earth=Psalm 45:7--On earth=John 20:17, Back in heaven=Rev 3:12
