The Doctrine of Divine Simplicity

Yes in revelation chapter 1

YES, Revelation gives us the SUM Total of that which ELOHIM consists of, as does the Gospel.

WITNESS = Revelation 11:17

“We give You thanks, O Lord God Almighty,
The One who is and who was and who is to come,
Because You have taken Your great power and reigned."
 
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Since we are close to the LORD's Return i will share with you men a hidden Diamond of Truth that is only hidden to those who cannot SEE.

Why does the Bible say: "the Lord God" and the "Lord God Almighty"
The phrase Lord God almighty appears here


Bible Search for "Lord God Almighty"

King James Version 5 results in 5 verses

Rev 4:8
And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

Rev 11:17
Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

Rev 15:3
And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

Rev 16:7
And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.

Rev 21:22
And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.


Exported from Logos Bible Study, 3:53 AM August 19, 2024.

The equivalent appears here

Revelation 1:8 (UASV) — 8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.”
 
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and you have not addressed

Jesus is stated to be the one lord, so is the father not lord?

There are no verses in any standard translation which calls Christ small "g" god

Satan not the word is referred to in 2cor 4:4

The lexicons do not support your claim of the word being a god

neither answering my question or posting a recognized lexicon giving a meaning of a god

BTW how many gods do you believe in?
I am sure the Father can be called Lord, he is called sovereign Lord many times. Jer 50:25-- Psalm 73:28
All Jesus has including every title was given to him from his God and Father.
 
Are you ever going to address this

You still have not addressed this

Jesus is stated to be the one lord, so is the father not lord?

There are no verses in any standard translation which calls Christ small "g" god

Satan not the word is referred to in 2cor 4:4

The lexicons do not support your claim of the word being a god

neither answering my question or posting a recognized lexicon giving a meaning of a god

BTW how many gods do you believe in?
100% fact, the Lexicons prove my words are truth.
 
YHWH is YESHUA

The Holy Scriptures declare it from Genesis to Revelation.

SEE:
Isaiah 45:23 = Phillipians 2:9-11
I have sworn by Myself; The word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness, And shall not return, That to Me every knee shall bow, Every tongue shall take an oath.

Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,
and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
YHWH--- is not Yeshua,, Explain to us all then How Jesus sat at his own right hand if he is YHWH? Psalm 110:10= in a real bible reads-YHWH( Jehovah) said to my Lord( Jesus), sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool. So tell us all how he sat at his own right hand?
 
YHWH--- is not Yeshua,, Explain to us all then How Jesus sat at his own right hand if he is YHWH? Psalm 110:10= in a real bible reads-YHWH( Jehovah) said to my Lord( Jesus), sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool. So tell us all how he sat at his own right hand?
EASY

Who is this who comes from Edom,
With dyed garments from Bozrah,
This One who is [a]glorious in His apparel,
Traveling in the greatness of His strength?—

“I who speak in righteousness, mighty to save.”

2Why is Your apparel red,
And Your garments like one who treads in the winepress?

3“I have trodden the winepress alone,
And from the peoples no one was with Me.
For I have trodden them in My anger,
And trampled them in My fury;
Their blood is sprinkled upon My garments,
And I have stained all My robes.
4For the day of vengeance is in My heart,
And the year of My redeemed has come.
5I looked, but there was no one to help,
And I wondered
That there was no one to uphold;
Therefore My own arm brought salvation for Me;
And My own fury, it sustained Me.
6I have trodden down the peoples in My anger,
Made them drunk in My fury,
And brought down their strength to the earth.”
 
EASY

Who is this who comes from Edom,
With dyed garments from Bozrah,
This One who is [a]glorious in His apparel,
Traveling in the greatness of His strength?—

“I who speak in righteousness, mighty to save.”

2Why is Your apparel red,
And Your garments like one who treads in the winepress?

3“I have trodden the winepress alone,
And from the peoples no one was with Me.
For I have trodden them in My anger,
And trampled them in My fury;
Their blood is sprinkled upon My garments,
And I have stained all My robes.
4For the day of vengeance is in My heart,
And the year of My redeemed has come.
5I looked, but there was no one to help,
And I wondered
That there was no one to uphold;
Therefore My own arm brought salvation for Me;
And My own fury, it sustained Me.
6I have trodden down the peoples in My anger,
Made them drunk in My fury,
And brought down their strength to the earth.”
That doesn't answer my question, my proof. I already know you cannot answer truth. That is why your post has 0 to do to answer my question to you.
 
That doesn't answer my question, my proof. I already know you cannot answer truth. That is why your post has 0 to do to answer my question to you.

SEE, the Holy Spirit did not reveal to you WHO and WHAT that passage of scriptures speaks of - and HE won't until you turn to CHRIST.
 
100% fact, the Lexicons prove my words are truth.
You provide no proof for your claim

There are no noted lexicons which teach your henotheism

and you still have not addressed this

Jesus is stated to be the one lord, so is the father not lord?

There are no verses in any standard translation which calls Christ small "g" god

Satan not the word is referred to in 2cor 4:4

The lexicons do not support your claim of the word being a god

neither answering my question or posting a recognized lexicon giving a meaning of a god

BTW how many gods do you believe in?
 
Rev 22:13, “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

We can see here that Whoever is the Alpha/Omega also claims to be the first/last AND the beginning/end. It’s the same Person.


If we look back in Rev 1:17-18 we see the following:

“…Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.”

So, the One Who is first/last (and then is also Alpha/Omega and beginning/end) is the same Person who was dead and is alive forever more. It doesn’t take a scholar to figure out Who is the One speaking here. It does take a lot of mental gymnastics to explain away something so obvious.

The term "first/last" is used 4 times in Rev. Twice it is used along with "Alpha/Omega" with the Person claiming to be "first/last" AND the "Alpha/Omega."

"Alpha/Omega" is used 4 times in Rev. Twice with "first/last" and twice with "beginning/end."

"Beginning/end" occurs 3 times: twice with "Alpha/Omega" and once with "Alpha/Omega" AND "first/last."

In all of these texts, the speaker always refers to Himself with both or all of the titles. To say, "Well, this time it's Jehovah who is the first/last, this next time it's Jesus, then later it's Jehovah again..." is the mental gymnastics to which I referred.

Is God the first/last or is Jesus the first/last? Is God the Alpha/Omega or is Jesus the Alpha/Omega? Is God the beginning/end or is Jesus the beginning/end. An obvious way to reconcile the verses is to understand that Jesus is God.

According to unitarians, it seems God claimed to be the first/last in one sense while Jesus claimed to be first/last in another sense. You seem to gloss over the blatant connection of first/last with beginning/end and Alpha/Omega. In each verse, the Speaker who claims one title also claims one or both of the others. It's all the same person.

I usually wait patiently for unitarians to reply but this point has been nagging at me so I have to comment preemptively. I really am baffled by their suggestion from other discussion in the past that “first/last” has some meaning here other than the obvious one (a title synonymous with Alpha/Omega). You even say that Alpha/Omega is never used of the Son? Incredible!! We both have said that context is king so I would like to remind other readers of the context of Rev 1:17-18 (beginning in v.10, Young’s Literal):

I was in the Spirit on the Lord's-day, and I heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, saying, I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last;' and, `What thou dost see, write in a scroll, and send to the seven assemblies that [are] in Asia; to Ephesus, and to Smyrna, and to Pergamos, and to Thyatira, and to Sardis, and to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea.'

And I did turn to see the voice that did speak with me, and having turned, I saw seven golden lamp-stands, and in the midst of the seven lamp-stands, [one] like to a son of man, clothed to the foot, and girt round at the breast with a golden girdle, and his head and hairs white, as if white wool -- as snow, and his eyes as a flame of fire; and his feet like to fine brass, as in a furnace having been fired, and his voice as a sound of many waters, and having in his right hand seven stars, and out of his mouth a sharp two-edged sword is proceeding, and his countenance [is] as the sun shining in its might.

And when I saw him, I did fall at his feet as dead, and he placed his right hand upon me, saying to me, `Be not afraid; I am the First and the Last, and he who is living, and I did become dead, and, lo, I am living to the ages of the ages. Amen! and I have the keys of the hades and of the death.

Do you realize this is one scene? The Speaker identifies Himself in v. 11 as “the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last.” John turns to see who is speaking and sees “one like to a son of man” (other translations have “the Son of man”). Perhaps John is saying, "I saw someone who looked like Jesus." Then finally, in v. 17-18, the Speaker indeed identifies Himself as the One who is living and became dead and is now alive again forever.

Unitarians: I guess you identify the Alpha and Omega in v. 8 as Jehovah and v. 11 as Jesus? I guess you don’t see the term “the First and the Last” as a title equivalent to “the Alpha and Omega”? If so, you are definitely seeing something in the text that an ordinary reading doesn’t see beacuse of your bias.

It’s a title ascribed to the Almighty. I didn’t think it needed a more precise definition to be understood. What about, “the one who is and who was and who to come”? Does that need to be defined? I guess we could talk about a precise definition but I don’t think that will change my point. The Alpha/Omega is self-described as “the Almighty (1:8) AND the First/Last (22:13). The First/Last is self-described as the one who was dead and is alive forever more (1:18). Again, there are either 2 people who are the first and last OR Jesus is the Almighty.

Conclusion: Scripture declares YHWH is the First and the Last and besides Me there is no God/YHWH. Christ is YHWH.

hope this helps !!!

I have no doubt that the Holy One of Israel, was sent to us from the very beginning, and that there is no other Savior send for us. "Let there be Light". And I also have no doubt that HIS Father, who no man has ever seen, Sent Him.

Is. 48: 16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me. 17 Thus saith the LORD, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go.

John 17: 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee "the only true God", and Jesus Christ, whom "thou hast sent". 4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. 5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had "with thee" before the world was.

1 Cor. 11: 3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man "is Christ"; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ "is God".

John 20: 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto "my Father", and "your Father"; and to "my God", and "your God".

John 5: 24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth "my word", and believeth "on him that sent me", hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Gen. 3: 22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become "as one of us", to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Ps. 110: The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Col. 3: 1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
 
I have no doubt that the Holy One of Israel, was sent to us from the very beginning, and that there is no other Savior send for us. "Let there be Light". And I also have no doubt that HIS Father, who no man has ever seen, Sent Him.

Is. 48: 16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me. 17 Thus saith the LORD, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go.

John 17: 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee "the only true God", and Jesus Christ, whom "thou hast sent". 4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. 5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had "with thee" before the world was.

1 Cor. 11: 3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man "is Christ"; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ "is God".

John 20: 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto "my Father", and "your Father"; and to "my God", and "your God".

John 5: 24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth "my word", and believeth "on him that sent me", hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Gen. 3: 22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become "as one of us", to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Ps. 110: The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Col. 3: 1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

All these Beautiful scriptures you posted declare that Elohim(Plural) became a man - thank you

Here are more:
Isaiah ch43
For I am the Lord your God,
The Holy One of Israel, your Savior;


“You are My witnesses,” says the Lord,
“And My servant whom I have chosen,
That you may know and believe Me,
And understand that I am He.
Before Me there was no God formed,
Nor shall there be after Me.
I, even I, am the Lord,
And besides Me there is no savior.


So all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying:
“Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,”
which is translated, “God with us.” -
Matt 1:23
Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.
“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

“We give You thanks, O Lord God Almighty,
The One who is and who was and who is to come,
Because You have taken Your great power and reigned.
18The nations were angry, and Your [h]wrath has come,
And the time of the dead, that they should be judged,
And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints,
And those who fear Your name, small and great,
And should destroy those who destroy the earth.” - Revelation ch11

Whoever desires to know God must come to CHRIST as the only Lord God and Savior.

Only then will CHRIST bring you to the FATHER.
SEE - Isaiah 45:22-23 and Phillippians 2:5

“Look to Me, and be saved,
All you ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other.
I have sworn by Myself;
The word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness,
And shall not return,
That to Me every knee shall bow,
Every tongue shall take an oath.


Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
 
You provide no proof for your claim

There are no noted lexicons which teach your henotheism

and you still have not addressed this

Jesus is stated to be the one lord, so is the father not lord?

There are no verses in any standard translation which calls Christ small "g" god

Satan not the word is referred to in 2cor 4:4

The lexicons do not support your claim of the word being a god

neither answering my question or posting a recognized lexicon giving a meaning of a god

BTW how many gods do you believe in?
Loving more than one being is fine. Christ is a Being. God is a lovely gorgeous being and He is God. His spirit is a being... each of His souls will be restored to Him

all sweet loving beings in their deity.

God remains God.

First commandment of course.
 
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All these Beautiful scriptures you posted declare that Elohim(Plural) became a man - thank you

Here are more:
Isaiah ch43
For I am the Lord your God,
The Holy One of Israel, your Savior;


“You are My witnesses,” says the Lord,
“And My servant whom I have chosen,
That you may know and believe Me,
And understand that I am He.
Before Me there was no God formed,
Nor shall there be after Me.
I, even I, am the Lord,
And besides Me there is no savior.


So all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying:
“Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,”
which is translated, “God with us.” -
Matt 1:23
Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.
“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

“We give You thanks, O Lord God Almighty,
The One who is and who was and who is to come,
Because You have taken Your great power and reigned.
18The nations were angry, and Your [h]wrath has come,
And the time of the dead, that they should be judged,
And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints,
And those who fear Your name, small and great,
And should destroy those who destroy the earth.” - Revelation ch11

Whoever desires to know God must come to CHRIST as the only Lord God and Savior.

Only then will CHRIST bring you to the FATHER.
SEE - Isaiah 45:22-23 and Phillippians 2:5

“Look to Me, and be saved,
All you ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other.
I have sworn by Myself;
The word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness,
And shall not return,
That to Me every knee shall bow,
Every tongue shall take an oath.


Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
please no quote walls from corrupt text.

unreadable. explain your point...

saying it kindly. no kjv please.
 
You provide no proof for your claim

There are no noted lexicons which teach your henotheism

and you still have not addressed this

Jesus is stated to be the one lord, so is the father not lord?

There are no verses in any standard translation which calls Christ small "g" god

Satan not the word is referred to in 2cor 4:4

The lexicons do not support your claim of the word being a god

neither answering my question or posting a recognized lexicon giving a meaning of a god

BTW how many gods do you believe in?
lexicons are not God speaking.

every son of Him will be restored to their deity = original nature, and rule with Christ.
 
the eden originals
who are His 144k (x2)

male and female
restored in their original body made by God
will return to this earth
with Christ
as the two witnesses
and comfort left behind jacob
 
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