The Doctrine of Divine Simplicity

[TomL]

Rev 6:2-is the coming mentioned= the 1st Resurrection begins= the little flock( Luke 12:32) =the anointed bride of Christ=144,000 bought from the earth( Rev 14:3) these will be co-rulers sitting on thrones beside Jesus( Rev 1:6, Rev 20:6)-Only these get to partake of the emblems of the Lords evening meal=Luke 22:29-30= a covenant made to those who will sit on thrones.
The other resurrection occurs during the 1000 year reign at Rev 20.

Still not addressing

Christ's reign ends at his coming

1 Corinthians 15:22–28 (NASB 2020) — 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming, 24 then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to our God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death. 27 For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, “All things are put in subjection,” it is clear that this excludes the Father who put all things in subjection to Him. 28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

That you must ignore a plain didactic text shows your interpretation of Revelation is incorrect

BTW Check outside of Revelation nowhere is the second coming of Christ stated to be on a horse. you are just extolling Watchtower theology

 

[Keiw1]

So there will be a great crowd of JW believers that will never go to heaven? Sounds about right.

Yes they believe the bible-Matt 5:5--Psalm 37:29--Prov 2:21-22

 

[Keiw1]

Still not addressing

Christ's reign ends at his coming

1 Corinthians 15:22–28 (NASB 2020) — 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming, 24 then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to our God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death. 27 For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, “All things are put in subjection,” it is clear that this excludes the Father who put all things in subjection to Him. 28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

That you must ignore a plain didactic text shows your interpretation of Revelation is incorrect

BTW Check outside of Revelation nowhere is the second coming of Christ stated to be on a horse. you are just extolling Watchtower theology

Revelation is Gods inspired words. Rev 19:11=Jesus on a white horse=The results Rev 19:18-19-- the kings of the earth wage war against Jesus--just as Rev 16 teaches=EVERY kingdom( govt, armies, supporters) are mislead to stand in opposition to Gods king at Armageddon. Its all occurring on earth.--Rev 20:6= speaks of the 1000 year reign.

 

[e v e]

You continue to ignore

Christ's reign ends at his coming

1 Corinthians 15:22–28 (NASB 2020) — 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming, 24 then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to our God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death. 27 For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, “All things are put in subjection,” it is clear that this excludes the Father who put all things in subjection to Him. 28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

That you must ignore a plain didactic text shows your interpretation of Revelation is incorrect

Christ reign does not end.

Please...

 

[e v e]

Again

Christ's reign ends at his coming.

the reign that ends is that of the prince of the air...

• this world ends...
• Christ returns...
• the sons rebuild Eden paradise in the other reality with Christ..
• the sons and daughters as the two witnesses return to earth with Christ
• And witness to poor left behind jacob...so that before he dies jacob accepts christ... (so therefore, there is no Darby's evil kjv version where only the 144k are restored...)
• the sons Rule Eden paradise With Christ...

 

[e v e]

So there will be a great crowd of JW believers that will never go to heaven? Sounds about right.

probably not true that all of them do not go to eden paradise... that's a bit unkind...
some will of course, not that we know who those may be... just as some from other sects...
such as evangelical or 7th day or whatever, may be included...

for that decision is God's only and His ways are not our
ways of course... therefore judging is not for us....

 

[TomL]

Revelation is Gods inspired words. Rev 19:11=Jesus on a white horse=The results Rev 19:18-19-- the kings of the earth wage war against Jesus--just as Rev 16 teaches=EVERY kingdom( govt, armies, supporters) are mislead to stand in opposition to Gods king at Armageddon. Its all occurring on earth.--Rev 20:6= speaks of the 1000 year reign.

You still have not addressed

1 Corinthians 15:22–28 (NASB 2020) — 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming, 24 then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to our God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death. 27 For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, “All things are put in subjection,” it is clear that this excludes the Father who put all things in subjection to Him. 28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

That you must ignore a plain didactic text shows your interpretation of Revelation is incorrect

Nor have you addressed the fact that nowhere does the bible state Christ second coming is on a horse

Here is yet additional problems for your interpretation of Rev 7:4


1 Corinthians 15:22–28 (NASB 2020) — 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming, 24 then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to our God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death. 27 For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, “All things are put in subjection,” it is clear that this excludes the Father who put all things in subjection to Him. 28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

The 144, 000 are on earth . They are Isrealites

 

[TomL]

the reign that ends is that of the prince of the air...

• this world ends...
• Christ returns...
• the sons rebuild Eden paradise in the other reality with Christ..
• the sons and daughters as the two witnesses return to earth with Christ
• And witness to poor left behind jacob...so that before he dies jacob accepts christ... (so therefore, there is no Darby's evil kjv version where only the 144k are restored...)
• the sons Rule Eden paradise With Christ...

1 Corinthians 15:22–28 (NASB 2020) — 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming, 24 then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to our God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death. 27 For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, “All things are put in subjection,” it is clear that this excludes the Father who put all things in subjection to Him. 28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

 

[TomL]

Christ reign does not end.

Please...

What does the text state

1 Corinthians 15:22–28 (NASB 2020) — 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming, 24 then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to our God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death. 27 For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, “All things are put in subjection,” it is clear that this excludes the Father who put all things in subjection to Him. 28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

 

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How are you going to fit 8 million JW's into the 144,000 positions?

however, the 144k concept was messed up by Darby, he
was following KJV, and reading it as only the
remnant will be saved. I think other sects, such as evangelical,
so not just jw have this view of who is saved...
but none realize we will be saved once we are restored
to our Home, which is eden paradise..
until then we are promised to Him,
and then after we are Home, will be the wedding...

it is true that most believers will not be part of the remnant..
meeting Christ on the clouds... but, the remnant will return
with Christ as the two witnesses during trib ... and bring many poor souls
of jacob (who were left behind and will be hurting very much... )
to Christ..

when Christ and the 2 witnesses visit them during tribulation
they will accept Christ...

so, though they will die during trib and were not
part of rapture, they will accept Christ and be restored
and after their death be brought to eden paradise...
for this earth will pass, as prophets say,
and will be fit only for rats and moles

 

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What does the text state

1 Corinthians 15:22–28 (NASB 2020) — 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming, 24 then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to our God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death. 27 For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, “All things are put in subjection,” it is clear that this excludes the Father who put all things in subjection to Him. 28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

After the 1000 years all His enemies will be under His feet... but
that will be much later... after Eden paradise is restored in the other reality,
and after all His souls are saved from here, rescued actually
from this earth.

As for Christ, He and God's Spirit are the hands of God
and do His will... a separate topic...
Yet, they are deity... just as will
all the sons be restored to their Deity
and will Rule With Christ in paradise,
soon.

Deity means, His nature, The bodies He gave us
before the fall, and not the animal flesh nature of these
current bodies not made by God
which were an effect of the fall
and what Adam did.

 

[e v e]

We must try to read His Words
as He is, Love, and not through the eyes
of the evil realm, which hates God..

 

[e v e]

1 Corinthians 15:22–28 (NASB 2020) — 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming, 24 then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to our God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death. 27 For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, “All things are put in subjection,” it is clear that this excludes the Father who put all things in subjection to Him. 28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

unfortunately these translations derive from kjv in various historical ways..
a sorcery text.

which results in that modern christianity is anti-Christ
and concepts messed up...

Christ already does all He says and that will never change...

 

[TomL]

Revelation is Gods inspired words. Rev 19:11=Jesus on a white horse=The results Rev 19:18-19-- the kings of the earth wage war against Jesus--just as Rev 16 teaches=EVERY kingdom( govt, armies, supporters) are mislead to stand in opposition to Gods king at Armageddon. Its all occurring on earth.--Rev 20:6= speaks of the 1000 year reign.

BTW

Revelation 7:9–17 (UASV) — 9 After this I saw, and look! a great multitude, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes and with palm branches in their hands. 10 and they cry with a great voice, saying, “Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.” 11 All the angels were standing around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, and they fell facedown before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying, “Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom and thanksgiving and honor and power and might be to our God for the ages of the ages! Amen.” 13 And one of the elders answered, saying to me, “These who are dressed in the white robes, who are they and where did they come from? 14 And I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who have come out of the great tribulation and have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore they are before the throne of God, and they serve him day and night in his temple: and the one seated on the throne will spread his tent over them. 16 They will hunger no more nor thirst anymore, neither will the sun beat down on them nor any scorching heat, 17 for the Lamb, who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them and will guide them to springs of the water of life. And God will wipe out every tear from their eyes.”

 

[TomL]

unfortunately these translations derive from kjv in various historical ways..
a sorcery text.

which results in that modern christianity is anti-Christ
and concepts messed up...

Christ already does all He says and that will never change...

You deny the scriptures, therefore you deny true authority

 

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What does the text state

1 Corinthians 15:22–28 (NASB 2020) — 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming, 24 then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to our God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death. 27 For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, “All things are put in subjection,” it is clear that this excludes the Father who put all things in subjection to Him. 28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

Christ the first fruits relates the the 144k, the first to go...
and then, will be next, left behind jacob....
and the reign there at 25 would be 1000 years in eden paradise...
after which, satan goodbye forever...

as for subjection, that is evil realm thinking there..
since God's relationship is love with his Own actual
real sons.

the creature slave concept is evil realm
addition and alterations of the text...

But, there is no problem here, as already
Christ obeys God, as His son,
and so the same with His Spirit... for they are His Hands,
as Iranaeus put it so lovely...

For this is the family of Him...
all of us and Him...
so that subjugation concept
is not God's...but rather that of the evil realm
which only knows Force.

subjugation of those who Love God
would be a weird oxymoron...

 

[e v e]

You deny the scriptures, therefore you deny true authority

I accept completely His Words.

What I do not accept is humans in the carnal mind
who have altered His words.

 

[e v e]

You still have not addressed

1 Corinthians 15:22–28 (NASB 2020) — 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming, 24 then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to our God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death. 27 For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, “All things are put in subjection,” it is clear that this excludes the Father who put all things in subjection to Him. 28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

That you must ignore a plain didactic text shows your interpretation of Revelation is incorrect

Nor have you addressed the fact that nowhere does the bible state Christ second coming is on a horse

Here is yet additional problems for your interpretation of Rev 7:4


1 Corinthians 15:22–28 (NASB 2020) — 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming, 24 then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to our God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death. 27 For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, “All things are put in subjection,” it is clear that this excludes the Father who put all things in subjection to Him. 28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

The 144, 000 are on earth . They are Isrealites

No they are not israelites, if you mean people following judaism today...
though some israelites may be among them...

one criteria for them, not the only, is
souls that came from Eden, who came from God..
souls not fleshbody types...

not some nationality of flesh bodies.

 

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the other criteria is that His souls
who will meet Christ upon the clouds died to their flesh
and this world and all its needs and wants...

it is not based on what sect they belong to be it
be it jw or catholic or evangelical....
or if they are in judaism or if they
were in a flesh bloodline of such...

the important is the soul
not the flesh.

 

[Keiw1]

You still have not addressed

1 Corinthians 15:22–28 (NASB 2020) — 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming, 24 then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to our God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death. 27 For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, “All things are put in subjection,” it is clear that this excludes the Father who put all things in subjection to Him. 28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

That you must ignore a plain didactic text shows your interpretation of Revelation is incorrect

Nor have you addressed the fact that nowhere does the bible state Christ second coming is on a horse

Here is yet additional problems for your interpretation of Rev 7:4


1 Corinthians 15:22–28 (NASB 2020) — 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming, 24 then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to our God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death. 27 For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, “All things are put in subjection,” it is clear that this excludes the Father who put all things in subjection to Him. 28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

The 144, 000 are on earth . They are Isrealites

Israel religion has been cut off( Matt 23:38-39) they outright refuse to do verse 39. Spiritual Israel made up of Israelites and gentiles are now Gods chosen. They all bless the real Jesus.
I know its you misinterpreting what is being said.