Taking credit for your salvation
- Thread starter The Rogue Tomato
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Nope. There are not two ultimate causes in the universe. Just one. God.
I an though and I am a sinner. I am part of God's creation. Which means God is the ultimate cause of all that I am.
You can respond favorable to whoever you wish, but the question rtemains
his view is
God irresistibly unilaterally causes faith in man
Are you now affirming that?
And it just looks like you are dodging a reply.
Johann
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You really should stop running to and fro-hither and thither-busy listening to the news, especially the conflict in Israel-would you mind?
Nope
God did not cause your sin you did
1 John 2:16 (KJV 1900) — 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
1 Corinthians 10:13 (KJV 1900) — 13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
More diversion
his view is
God irresistibly unilaterally causes faith in man
Are you now affirming that?
And it just looks like you are dodging a reply.
Nope. God as my omniscient creator is ultimately the cause.
Sorry creation did not necessitate your particular sin
and you ignored scripture
God did not cause your sin you did
1 John 2:16 (KJV 1900) — 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
1 Corinthians 10:13 (KJV 1900) — 13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
Johann
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Context:
1 Corinthians 10:13 is part of Paul's letter to the Corinthians, where he addresses various issues within the Corinthian church. In the preceding verses (1 Corinthians 10:6-12), Paul recounts the Israelites' experiences in the wilderness and warns the Corinthians against falling into similar patterns of disobedience and idolatry. He then reassures them that God is faithful and will provide a way of escape from temptation.Word Study:
- Temptation (πειρασμός - peirasmos): You do know the differnce between dokimazo and peirazo?
- Morphology: Noun, masculine gender.
- Meaning: Refers to trials, tests, or temptations that come upon individuals, often with the intention of leading them into sin or testing their faithfulness.
- Common (ἀνθρώπινος - anthrōpinos):
- Morphology: Adjective.
- Meaning: Pertaining to humanity, human, or common to mankind. It indicates that the temptations experienced by believers are not unique but are shared by others.
- Able (δύναμαι - dynamai):
- Morphology: Verb, present indicative middle or passive.
- Meaning: Denotes capability, power, or ability. It suggests that believers have the capacity, through God's strength, to withstand temptation.
- Faithful (πιστός - pistos):
- Morphology: Adjective.
- Meaning: Trustworthy, reliable, or faithful. It describes God's character and his steadfast commitment to his promises.
- Suffer (ἐάω - eáō):
- Morphology: Verb, future indicative active.
- Meaning: Allow, permit, or tolerate. It indicates that God will not allow believers to be overwhelmed by temptation beyond their capacity to endure.
- Way of Escape (ἔκβασις - ekbasis):
- Morphology: Noun, feminine gender.
- Meaning: A way out, exit, or escape route. It signifies God's provision of a means to overcome temptation and avoid succumbing to sin.
Interpretation:
1 Corinthians 10:13 reassures believers that temptations they face are not unique but are common to humanity. However, God is faithful and will not allow them to be tempted beyond what they can bear. Instead, He will provide a way of escape alongside the temptation, enabling them to withstand it and remain faithful.Summary:
Understanding the context and conducting a word study of 1 Corinthians 10:13 enriches our comprehension of its message. It underscores God's faithfulness in the midst of trials, His provision of strength to withstand temptation, and His assurance of a way out for believers facing challenges. This verse offers encouragement and hope to believers, reminding them of God's steadfastness and provision in times of testing.Context and exegesis-
No one said it did and your ignoring the point. God, as the creator of all things, is ultimately the cause of all that exists. All that exists serves His divine purpose.
civic
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civic
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Spot on exposing the lies about God
civic
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Nope that’s blasphemy calling God evil and the source of evil
They don't come from His creation? Your not part of His creation?
No one ever called God evil.
civic
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The one who causes something to occur and predetermines it to happen when no other result is possible is by definition responsible , guilty of the event they caused to occur. So your god in your theology is the responsible / guilty party. Evil in your system was caused by your god as the source.
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That really does not address my question. Are you, the sinner, part of God's creation? Is sin some sort of creative opps??
civic
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Hmmm foghorn spells oops opps. Nice slip up
