SOTERIOLOGY 101, Provisionism [ Calvinists of course can be excluded.]

[civic]

By faith

being made alive, and that is by faith.

John 3:15 (LEB) — 15 so that everyone who believes in him will have eternal life.”

John 3:16 (LEB) — 16 For in this way God loved the world, so that he gave his one and only Son, in order that everyone who believes in him will not perish, but will have eternal life.

Galatians 2:20 (LEB) — 20 and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me, and that life I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

Romans 1:17 (LEB) — 17 For the righteousness of God is revealed in it from faith to faith, just as it is written, “But the one who is righteous by faith will live.”

2 Corinthians 5:7 (LEB) — 7 for we live by faith, not by sight—

Hebrews 10:38 (LEB) — 38 But my righteous one will live by faith, and if he shrinks back, my soul is not well pleased with him.”

Faith establishes that it is according to grace

Romans 4:16–25 (LEB) — 16 Because of this, it is by faith, in order that it may be according to grace, so that the promise may be secure to all the descendants, not only to those of the law, but also to those of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all 17 (just as it is written, “I have made you the father of many nations”) before God, in whom he believed, the one who makes the dead alive and who calls the things that are not as though they are, 18 who against hope believed in hope, so that he became the father of many nations, according to what was said, “so will your descendants be.” 19 And not being weak in faith, he considered his own body as good as dead, because he was approximately a hundred years old, and the deadness of Sarah’s womb. 20 And he did not waver in unbelief at the promise of God, but was strengthened in faith, giving glory to God 21 and being fully convinced that what he had promised, he was also able to do. 22 Therefore it was credited to him for righteousness. 23 But it was not written for the sake of him alone that it was credited to him, 24 but also for the sake of us to whom it is going to be credited, to those who believe in the one who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead, 25 who was handed over on account of our trespasses, and was raised up in the interest of our justification.

And regeneration which makes alive also must be preceded by faith

being made alive, is through faith.

John 3:15 (LEB) — 15 so that everyone who believes in him will have eternal life.”

John 3:16 (LEB) — 16 For in this way God loved the world, so that he gave his one and only Son, in order that everyone who believes in him will not perish, but will have eternal life.

Galatians 2:20 (LEB) — 20 and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me, and that life I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

Romans 1:17 (LEB) — 17 For the righteousness of God is revealed in it from faith to faith, just as it is written, “But the one who is righteous by faith will live.”

2 Corinthians 5:7 (LEB) — 7 for we live by faith, not by sight—

Hebrews 10:38 (LEB) — 38 But my righteous one will live by faith, and if he shrinks back, my soul is not well pleased with him.”

Faith establishes that it is according to grace

Romans 4:16–25 (LEB) — 16 Because of this, it is by faith, in order that it may be according to grace, so that the promise may be secure to all the descendants, not only to those of the law, but also to those of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all 17 (just as it is written, “I have made you the father of many nations”) before God, in whom he believed, the one who makes the dead alive and who calls the things that are not as though they are, 18 who against hope believed in hope, so that he became the father of many nations, according to what was said, “so will your descendants be.” 19 And not being weak in faith, he considered his own body as good as dead, because he was approximately a hundred years old, and the deadness of Sarah’s womb. 20 And he did not waver in unbelief at the promise of God, but was strengthened in faith, giving glory to God 21 and being fully convinced that what he had promised, he was also able to do. 22 Therefore it was credited to him for righteousness. 23 But it was not written for the sake of him alone that it was credited to him, 24 but also for the sake of us to whom it is going to be credited, to those who believe in the one who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead, 25 who was handed over on account of our trespasses, and was raised up in the interest of our justification.

once again all your bible reference were ignored and the response was mans ideas, not Gods.

 

[TomL]

once again all your bible reference were ignored and the response was mans ideas, not Gods.

Yep this is truly sad.

 

[TomL]

@TomL



One is made alive by the Spirit in regeneration, then they are delivered from the prison of unbelief to believe. Believing is an evidence of Spiritual life

One must believe before they can receive the Spirit

Ephesians 1:13–14 (LEB) — 13 in whom also you, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also when you believed you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the down payment of our inheritance, until the redemption of the possession, to the praise of his glory.

Galatians 3:2–3 (LEB) — 2 I want only to learn this from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now trying to be made complete by the flesh?

John 7:38–39 (LEB) — 38 the one who believes in me. Just as the scripture said, ‘Out of his belly will flow rivers of living water.’ ” 39 (Now he said this concerning the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were about to receive. For the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus had not yet been glorified.)

Acts 2:38 (LEB) — 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized, each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

It is the reception of the Holy Spirit that regenerates and makes us alive.

 

[brightfame52]

One must believe before they can receive the Spirit

Ephesians 1:13–14 (LEB) — 13 in whom also you, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also when you believed you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the down payment of our inheritance, until the redemption of the possession, to the praise of his glory.

Galatians 3:2–3 (LEB) — 2 I want only to learn this from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now trying to be made complete by the flesh?

John 7:38–39 (LEB) — 38 the one who believes in me. Just as the scripture said, ‘Out of his belly will flow rivers of living water.’ ” 39 (Now he said this concerning the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were about to receive. For the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus had not yet been glorified.)

Acts 2:38 (LEB) — 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized, each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

It is the reception of the Holy Spirit that regenerates and makes us alive.

Man by nature is imprisoned in unbelief.

 

[TomL]

Man by nature is imprisoned in unbelief.

You ran from scriptural truth once again

One must believe before they can receive the Spirit

Ephesians 1:13–14 (LEB) — 13 in whom also you, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also when you believed you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the down payment of our inheritance, until the redemption of the possession, to the praise of his glory.

Galatians 3:2–3 (LEB) — 2 I want only to learn this from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now trying to be made complete by the flesh?

John 7:38–39 (LEB) — 38 the one who believes in me. Just as the scripture said, ‘Out of his belly will flow rivers of living water.’ ” 39 (Now he said this concerning the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were about to receive. For the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus had not yet been glorified.)

Acts 2:38 (LEB) — 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized, each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

It is the reception of the Holy Spirit that regenerates and makes us alive.

 

[brightfame52]

You ran from scriptural truth once again

One must believe before they can receive the Spirit

Ephesians 1:13–14 (LEB) — 13 in whom also you, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also when you believed you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the down payment of our inheritance, until the redemption of the possession, to the praise of his glory.

Galatians 3:2–3 (LEB) — 2 I want only to learn this from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now trying to be made complete by the flesh?

John 7:38–39 (LEB) — 38 the one who believes in me. Just as the scripture said, ‘Out of his belly will flow rivers of living water.’ ” 39 (Now he said this concerning the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were about to receive. For the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus had not yet been glorified.)

Acts 2:38 (LEB) — 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized, each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

It is the reception of the Holy Spirit that regenerates and makes us alive.

Man by nature is imprisoned in unbelief. Rom 11:32

For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
We are by nature in Adam children of disobedience or unbelief Eph 2:2

Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

 

[Kampioen]

@TomL

One is made alive by the Spirit in regeneration, then they are delivered from the prison of unbelief to believe. Believing is an evidence of Spiritual life

Yes. That they believe is an evidence that they have spiritual life. So before they believe, they don't have spiritual life.

This guy below doesn't have spiritual life. He may never if nobody tells him how.

Acts 16:30 (KJV) And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

 

[TomL]

Man by nature is imprisoned in unbelief. Rom 11:32

For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
We are by nature in Adam children of disobedience or unbelief Eph 2:2

Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Again, one must believe before one can receive the Spirit.

And so you ran from scriptural truth once again.

Ephesians 1:13–14 (LEB) — 13 in whom also you, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also when you believed you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the down payment of our inheritance, until the redemption of the possession, to the praise of his glory.

Galatians 3:2–3 (LEB) — 2 I want only to learn this from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now trying to be made complete by the flesh?

John 7:38–39 (LEB) — 38 the one who believes in me. Just as the scripture said, ‘Out of his belly will flow rivers of living water.’ ” 39 (Now he said this concerning the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were about to receive. For the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus had not yet been glorified.)

Acts 2:38 (LEB) — 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized, each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

It is the reception of the Holy Spirit that regenerates and makes us alive.

 

[TomL]

Yes. That they believe is an evidence that they have spiritual life. So before they believe, they don't have spiritual life.

This guy below doesn't have spiritual life. He may never if nobody tells him how.

Acts 16:30 (KJV) And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

And he was answered.

Acts 16:31 (LEB) — 31 And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, you and your household!”

It seems that was what he had to do.

 

[brightfame52]

Yes. That they believe is an evidence that they have spiritual life. So before they believe, they don't have spiritual life.

This guy below doesn't have spiritual life. He may never if nobody tells him how.

Acts 16:30 (KJV) And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

Believing is an evidence of spiritual life, if he believed after hearing the word of the lord, it was because he had been made spiritually alive.

 

[civic]

Believing is an evidence of spiritual life, if he believed after hearing the word of the lord, it was because he had been made spiritually alive.

you don't believe the gospel. thats unfortunate.

 

[brightfame52]

Again, one must believe before one can receive the Spirit.

And so you ran from scriptural truth once again.

before the mercy of regeneration, man is imprisoned in unbelief, disobedience. When man disobeyed in Adam Rom 5:19

For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
That disobedience was charged to all whom he represented, and its part of our nature, hence children of disobedience Eph 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

You can show all the scripture you want, it doesnt change mans fallen disobedient nature, he is dead in it.

 

[TomL]

before the mercy of regeneration, man is imprisoned in unbelief, disobedience. When man disobeyed in Adam Rom 5:19

For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
That disobedience was charged to all whom he represented, and its part of our nature, hence children of disobedience Eph 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

You can show all the scripture you want, it doesnt change mans fallen disobedient nature, he is dead in it.

Again, scripture shows faith is before reception of the Spirit.

Ephesians 1:13–14 (LEB) — 13 in whom also you, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also when you believed you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the down payment of our inheritance, until the redemption of the possession, to the praise of his glory.

Galatians 3:2–3 (LEB) — 2 I want only to learn this from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now trying to be made complete by the flesh?

John 7:38–39 (LEB) — 38 the one who believes in me. Just as the scripture said, ‘Out of his belly will flow rivers of living water.’ ” 39 (Now he said this concerning the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were about to receive. For the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus had not yet been glorified.)

Acts 2:38 (LEB) — 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized, each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

It is the reception of the Holy Spirit that regenerates and makes us alive.

 

[brightfame52]

Again, scripture shows faith is before reception of the Spirit.

Ephesians 1:13–14 (LEB) — 13 in whom also you, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also when you believed you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the down payment of our inheritance, until the redemption of the possession, to the praise of his glory.

Galatians 3:2–3 (LEB) — 2 I want only to learn this from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now trying to be made complete by the flesh?

John 7:38–39 (LEB) — 38 the one who believes in me. Just as the scripture said, ‘Out of his belly will flow rivers of living water.’ ” 39 (Now he said this concerning the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were about to receive. For the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus had not yet been glorified.)

Acts 2:38 (LEB) — 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized, each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

It is the reception of the Holy Spirit that regenerates and makes us alive.

Man by nature is dead to God, a child of disobedience/unbelief. Mans only hope to believe in God and obey God is to receive a new nature.

 

[TomL]

Man by nature is dead to God, a child of disobedience/unbelief. Mans only hope to believe in God and obey God is to receive a new nature.

Man does not receive a new nature until indwelt by the Spirit/being in Christ based upon faith

2 Corinthians 5:17 (LEB) — 17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old things have passed away; behold, new things have come.

Ezekiel 36:26–27 (LEB) — 26 And I will give a new heart to you, and a new spirit I will give into your inner parts, and I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh, and I will give to you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will give my spirit into your inner parts, and I will make it so that you will go in my rules, and my regulations you will remember, and you will do them.

Romans 6:3–4 (LEB) — 3 Or do you not know that as many as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we have been buried with him through baptism into death, in order that just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so also we may live a new way of life.

And man cannot receive the Spirit without faith.

Again, scripture shows faith is before reception of the Spirit.

Ephesians 1:13–14 (LEB) — 13 in whom also you, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also when you believed you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the down payment of our inheritance, until the redemption of the possession, to the praise of his glory.

Galatians 3:2–3 (LEB) — 2 I want only to learn this from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now trying to be made complete by the flesh?

John 7:38–39 (LEB) — 38 the one who believes in me. Just as the scripture said, ‘Out of his belly will flow rivers of living water.’ ” 39 (Now he said this concerning the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were about to receive. For the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus had not yet been glorified.)

Acts 2:38 (LEB) — 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized, each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

It is the reception of the Holy Spirit that regenerates and makes us alive.

 

[TomL]

Man by nature is dead to God, a child of disobedience/unbelief. Mans only hope to believe in God and obey God is to receive a new nature.

Again, scripture shows faith is before reception of the Spirit.

Ephesians 1:13–14 (LEB) — 13 in whom also you, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also when you believed you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the down payment of our inheritance, until the redemption of the possession, to the praise of his glory.

Galatians 3:2–3 (LEB) — 2 I want only to learn this from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now trying to be made complete by the flesh?

John 7:38–39 (LEB) — 38 the one who believes in me. Just as the scripture said, ‘Out of his belly will flow rivers of living water.’ ” 39 (Now he said this concerning the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were about to receive. For the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus had not yet been glorified.)

Acts 2:38 (LEB) — 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized, each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

It is the reception of the Holy Spirit that regenerates and makes us alive.

 

[brightfame52]

Man does not receive a new nature until indwelt by the Spirit/being in Christ based upon faith

2 Corinthians 5:17 (LEB) — 17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old things have passed away; behold, new things have come.

Ezekiel 36:26–27 (LEB) — 26 And I will give a new heart to you, and a new spirit I will give into your inner parts, and I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh, and I will give to you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will give my spirit into your inner parts, and I will make it so that you will go in my rules, and my regulations you will remember, and you will do them.

Romans 6:3–4 (LEB) — 3 Or do you not know that as many as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we have been buried with him through baptism into death, in order that just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so also we may live a new way of life.

And man cannot receive the Spirit without faith.

Again, scripture shows faith is before reception of the Spirit.

Ephesians 1:13–14 (LEB) — 13 in whom also you, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also when you believed you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the down payment of our inheritance, until the redemption of the possession, to the praise of his glory.

Galatians 3:2–3 (LEB) — 2 I want only to learn this from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now trying to be made complete by the flesh?

John 7:38–39 (LEB) — 38 the one who believes in me. Just as the scripture said, ‘Out of his belly will flow rivers of living water.’ ” 39 (Now he said this concerning the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were about to receive. For the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus had not yet been glorified.)

Acts 2:38 (LEB) — 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized, each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

It is the reception of the Holy Spirit that regenerates and makes us alive.

Man by nature is dead to God, a child of disobedience/unbelief. Mans only hope to believe in God and obey God is to receive a new nature. How does a dead man receive resurrection from the dead ? lol When Jesus comes again, and calls all from the graves, is that a offer ?

 

[TomL]

Man by nature is dead to God, a child of disobedience/unbelief. Mans only hope to believe in God and obey God is to receive a new nature. How does a dead man receive resurrection from the dead ? lol When Jesus comes again, and calls all from the graves, is that a offer ?

Man does not receive a new nature until indwelt by the Spirit/being in Christ based upon faith

2 Corinthians 5:17 (LEB) — 17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old things have passed away; behold, new things have come.

Ezekiel 36:26–27 (LEB) — 26 And I will give a new heart to you, and a new spirit I will give into your inner parts, and I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh, and I will give to you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will give my spirit into your inner parts, and I will make it so that you will go in my rules, and my regulations you will remember, and you will do them.

Romans 6:3–4 (LEB) — 3 Or do you not know that as many as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we have been buried with him through baptism into death, in order that just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so also we may live a new way of life.

And man cannot receive the Spirit without faith.

Again, scripture shows faith is before reception of the Spirit.

Ephesians 1:13–14 (LEB) — 13 in whom also you, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also when you believed you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the down payment of our inheritance, until the redemption of the possession, to the praise of his glory.

Galatians 3:2–3 (LEB) — 2 I want only to learn this from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now trying to be made complete by the flesh?

John 7:38–39 (LEB) — 38 the one who believes in me. Just as the scripture said, ‘Out of his belly will flow rivers of living water.’ ” 39 (Now he said this concerning the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were about to receive. For the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus had not yet been glorified.)

Acts 2:38 (LEB) — 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized, each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

It is the reception of the Holy Spirit that regenerates and makes us alive

 

[brightfame52]

Man does not receive a new nature until indwelt by the Spirit/being in Christ based upon faith

2 Corinthians 5:17 (LEB) — 17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old things have passed away; behold, new things have come.

Ezekiel 36:26–27 (LEB) — 26 And I will give a new heart to you, and a new spirit I will give into your inner parts, and I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh, and I will give to you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will give my spirit into your inner parts, and I will make it so that you will go in my rules, and my regulations you will remember, and you will do them.

Romans 6:3–4 (LEB) — 3 Or do you not know that as many as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we have been buried with him through baptism into death, in order that just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so also we may live a new way of life.

And man cannot receive the Spirit without faith.

Again, scripture shows faith is before reception of the Spirit.

Ephesians 1:13–14 (LEB) — 13 in whom also you, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also when you believed you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the down payment of our inheritance, until the redemption of the possession, to the praise of his glory.

Galatians 3:2–3 (LEB) — 2 I want only to learn this from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now trying to be made complete by the flesh?

John 7:38–39 (LEB) — 38 the one who believes in me. Just as the scripture said, ‘Out of his belly will flow rivers of living water.’ ” 39 (Now he said this concerning the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were about to receive. For the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus had not yet been glorified.)

Acts 2:38 (LEB) — 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized, each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

It is the reception of the Holy Spirit that regenerates and makes us alive

Man by nature is dead to God, a child of disobedience/unbelief. Mans only hope to believe in God and obey God is to receive a new nature.

 

[civic]

You know enough to be dangerous. White has had some debates recently with Catholics where he contradicted himself (traditional stance) many times. You should realize that people usually don't fit exactly in any "distinction" you want to brand them as being.

Even among Reformed Baptist, there are significant differences in theology.



Geesh.... No. He didn't. Provisionism as "Flowers" espouses is a rebranded traditionalism that has long existed among nonconformists. It also has some roots in the early church relative to the belief that the Gospel has the innate power to enlighten. It isn't new at all.

Yes Traditionalist and Provisionist are synonomous terms.

Some try and make Flowers the boogie man and scapegoat lol. Much like what happened to Pelagius. He became augustines boogie man when if fact Pelagius was the "orthodox" one in his day until augustine came along.