DavidTree
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Not what JESUS taught.What true followers do=John 4:22-24= no trinity, just the Father.
Not what JESUS taught.What true followers do=John 4:22-24= no trinity, just the Father.
Those are Jesus' words.=John 4:22-24--He is clear--Its what the true followers do. He as well warns = YOU worship what you do not know--He warned you=John 15:20-21Not what JESUS taught.
Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. 23But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. 24God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”Those are Jesus' words.=John 4:22-24
No, he did not say the father alone is the one true GodPaul did-1Cor 8:6
You are disobeyingThat is by obeying Jesus-Luke 10--Acts 20:20--Just like Jesus obeys his Father-John 15:10-14
Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.Yes glory of being by Gods side, the one God grew especially fond of( Prov 8:30)
Yes the true followers will worship the-FATHER- in spirit and truth= no trinity mentioned by JesusJesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. 23But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. 24God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”
25The woman said to Him, “I know that Messiah is coming” (who is called Christ). “When He comes, He will tell us all things.”
26Jesus said to her, “I who speak to you am He.”
When one understands simple English its easy to see Paul teaches-There is one God to all the Father.No, he did not say the father alone is the one true God
The false gods did not create
Jeremiah 10:10–11 (LEB) — 10 But Yahweh is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king. Because of his wrath the earth quakes, and the nations cannot endure his anger. 11 “Thus you shall say to them, ‘Gods who did not make the heavens and the earth will perish from the earth and from under these heavens.
But as the Word Jesus created everything
John 1:3 (LEB) — 3 All things came into being through him, and apart from him not one thing came into being that has come into being.
Colossians 1:16 (LEB) — 16 because all things in the heavens and on the earth were created by him, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or powers, all things were created through him and for him,
Hebrews 1:2 (LEB) — 2 in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom also he made the world,
Hebrews 1:10 (LEB) — 10 And, “You, Lord, laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning, and the heavens are the works of your hands;
But he is not God, he has a God just like us= 0 worship to him.Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.
John 1:14 (LEB) — 14 And the Word became flesh and took up residence among us, and we saw his glory, glory as of the one and only from the Father, full of grace and truth.
JESUS, with the Holy Spirit, said I and My Father are ONEYes the true followers will worship the-FATHER- in spirit and truth= no trinity mentioned by Jesus
One in purposeJESUS, with the Holy Spirit, said I and My Father are ONE
BEST to believe JESUS
"even though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in Me, and I in the Father.”
Has any human ever been able to make that claim?
Has any angel ever said that?
Can a angel ever say that?
Count to THREE = it's EASY and GOD shows you how = Romans 8:9
But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you.
Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.
Where did JESUS say that?One in purpose
John 5:30))-- The NT teaches we will be one with them as well, like this-Matt 7:21= one in purpose- The living to do the Fathers will.Where did JESUS say that?