Sealed by the baptism en the Holy Ghost
- Thread starter TomL
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Acts 2:4 doesn't say anything about indwelling.
mailmandan
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I believe we must repent in order to be saved because If we don't repent (change our mind) then we will not place our faith in Jesus Christ for salvation and become saved. Repentance actually "precedes" saving faith in Christ. (Acts 20:21) Folks in the CoC place repentance "after" faith then redefine it and turn it into a work for salvation. Water baptism "follows" saving belief/faith in Christ (Acts 10:43-47) which you also turn into a work for salvation.
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...have an incredibly poor understanding of the Holy Spirit.
You are confused.
Yes, water baptism follows belief. But nowhere in the NT does it ever say that water baptism follows salvation.
Are you saying one filled with the spirit could by no mean produce a miracle?
Is the Spirit inside you now rendered powerless?
Acts 2:4 (LEB) — 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other languages as the Spirit gave them ability to speak out.
Acts 13:9–11 (LEB) — 9 But Saul (also called Paul), filled with the Holy Spirit, looked intently at him 10 and said, “O you who are full of all deceit and of all unscrupulousness, you son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness! Will you not stop making crooked the straight paths of the Lord! 11 And now behold, the hand of the Lord is against you, and you will be blind, not seeing the sun for a while.” And immediately mist and darkness fell over him, and he was going around looking for people to lead him by the hand.
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mailmandan
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Acts 10:43 -Alll the prophets testify of Him, that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins.” 44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message. 45 All the Jewish believers who came with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had also been poured out on the Gentiles. 46 For they were hearing them speaking with tongues and exalting God. Then Peter responded, 47 "Surely no one can refuse the water for these to be baptized, who have received the Holy Spirit just as we did, can he?”
I didn't say that. Read it again.
Where in those verses does it say that anyone was saved?
mailmandan
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1 corintians12 does not say that.
mailmandan
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The apostle Paul is addressing "brethren" in 1 Corinthians 12 and not unbelievers. In verses 12-14 Paul goes on to say - For as the body is one and has many members, but all the members of that one body, being many, are one body, so also is Christ. For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. For in fact the body is not one member but many. Paul is addressing the body of Christ which is only made up of saved believers. Do you believe that lost unbelievers are part of the body of Christ?
Bob Carabbio
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"Miracles" are the result of the SPIRIT ON YOU just as they were from the beginning.
