Responsibilities to God and His Christ

Acts 11:
1The apostles and the believers throughout Judea heard that the Gentiles also had received the word of God. 2So when Peter went up to Jerusalem, the circumcised believers criticized him 3and said, “You went into the house of uncircumcised men and ate with them.”

4Starting from the beginning, Peter told them the whole story: 5“I was in the city of Joppa praying, and in a trance I saw a vision. I saw something like a large sheet being let down from heaven by its four corners, and it came down to where I was. 6I looked into it and saw four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, reptiles and birds. 7Then I heard a voice telling me, ‘Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.’

8“I replied, ‘Surely not, Lord! Nothing impure or unclean has ever entered my mouth.’

9The voice spoke from heaven a second time, ‘Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.’ 10This happened three times, and then it was all pulled up to heaven again.

11“Right then three men who had been sent to me from Caesarea stopped at the house where I was staying. 12The Spirit told me to have no hesitation about going with them. These six brothers also went with me, and we entered the man’s house. 13He told us how he had seen an angel appear in his house and say, ‘Send to Joppa for Simon who is called Peter. 14He will bring you a message through which you and all your household will be saved.’

15As I began to speak, the Holy Spirit came on them as he had come on us at the beginning. 16Then I remembered what the Lord had said: ‘John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.’ 17So if God gave them the same gift he gave us who believed in the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I to think that I could stand in God’s way?”

18When they heard this, they had no further objections and praised God, saying, “So then, even to Gentiles God has granted repentance that leads to life.”

Doug
The Jews looked down at Samaritans even saying they were not true Jew because their seed was mixed with non-Hebrews. This mix was the northern kingdom tribes, and Gentiles. Samaria was the capital of the northern kingdom before their exile by the Assyrians.
Later, the same happened to the southern kingdom tribes by the Babylonians. The Jews called the northern kingdom tribes mixed with Gentiles as Samaritan just as Jews called the mixed tribes of the southern kingdom as Gentiles because they were not "true" Jew.
But Jesus declared that as long as one was of the seed of Abraham no matter the dilution with other non-Hebrew races they were still heirs according to the promise. Jews called mixed-race Jews of the northern kingdom "Samaritan" the same attitude against the southern kingdom tribes mixed with non-Hebrews "Gentile."
And there is where you fall short in identifying the tribes.
 
If you would study in stead of being such a blatherskite you would know no one here adds to the Holy Words. Quoting explanations are not additions and mor then footnote in many translations are. Many need guidance... and you are chief among them.
You are still adding to the Bible.
Under the Law the animal sacrifices were to atone, albeit temporarily, the sins of the children of Israel. Adding Gentiles after this fact is adding to the Bible. You violate simple interpretation in order to violate the Word of God with your false theology.

Now, show me Scripture of the high priest offering sacrifices to atone for the sins of Gentiles.
If you can't provide chapter and verse, then your theology is chatter or worse.
 
The Jews looked down at Samaritans even saying they were not true Jew because their seed was mixed with non-Hebrews. This mix was the northern kingdom tribes, and Gentiles. Samaria was the capital of the northern kingdom before their exile by the Assyrians.
Later, the same happened to the southern kingdom tribes by the Babylonians. The Jews called the northern kingdom tribes mixed with Gentiles as Samaritan just as Jews called the mixed tribes of the southern kingdom as Gentiles because they were not "true" Jew.
But Jesus declared that as long as one was of the seed of Abraham no matter the dilution with other non-Hebrew races they were still heirs according to the promise. Jews called mixed-race Jews of the northern kingdom "Samaritan" the same attitude against the southern kingdom tribes mixed with non-Hebrews "Gentile."
And there is where you fall short in identifying the tribes.
Uncircumcised…non Jewish. Not only mixed Jewish people, but through and through non Jewish people.

Doug
 
Blatherskite…learned a new word today. Thanks! 👍

Doug
My Grandpap, when I was a tyke would spout that often and I always thought it was cussing until I learned..... LOL
 
You are still adding to the Bible.
Under the Law the animal sacrifices were to atone, albeit temporarily, the sins of the children of Israel. Adding Gentiles after this fact is adding to the Bible. You violate simple interpretation in order to violate the Word of God with your false theology.

Now, show me Scripture of the high priest offering sacrifices to atone for the sins of Gentiles.
If you can't provide chapter and verse, then your theology is chatter or worse.
I will show you what the bible does.... lest you accuse me wrongly again for what I do not do.

Foreigners Were Allowed to Participate in Atonement Offerings​

Leviticus 17:8


“Whatsoever man there be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers which sojourn among you, that offereth a burnt offering or sacrifice…”

God explicitly includes “the strangers (foreigners)” living among Israel.
Their sacrifices were accepted under the same system.

This verse shows that Gentiles were allowed to bring sacrifices to the same altar.
If a Gentile could bring a sacrifice, then the priest had to offer it, which means the priest was offering sacrifices connected to Gentiles.

Leviticus 22:18

“Speak unto Aaron, and to his sons, and unto all the children of Israel, and unto the strangers in Israel, that will offer his

One law for Israel​


Numbers 15:14-16

“And if a stranger sojourn with you, or whosoever be among you in your generations, and will offer an offering made by fire… as ye do, so he shall do.
One ordinance shall be both for you of the congregation, and also for the stranger…”

This passage destroys your claim that sacrifice was only for ethnic Israel.

But to not belabor this point....

Isaiah 56:6-7
“Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD…
Even them will I bring to my holy mountain…
for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

God never intended salvation to stop with Israel.

Jesus Himself quoted this in Mark 11:17.

Scripture already answers this.
Leviticus 16:29-30 says the Day of Atonement applied to “the stranger that sojourneth among you.”
Numbers 15:14-16 says a stranger could bring offerings and that “one ordinance shall be both for you and for the stranger.”
Leviticus 17:8 shows strangers bringing sacrifices to the altar.

If a stranger could bring sacrifices, the priest necessarily offered them.

So Scripture itself shows Gentiles were included in the sacrificial system. No one is adding to the Bible you simply overlooked what it says.

Your challenge ignores what the Law actually says.
 
Uncircumcised…non Jewish. Not only mixed Jewish people, but through and through non Jewish people.

Doug
As long as a person is of the seed of Abraham they are heirs according to [God's] Promises.
The LORD knows they that are His.
 
I will show you what the bible does.... lest you accuse me wrongly again for what I do not do.

Foreigners Were Allowed to Participate in Atonement Offerings​

Leviticus 17:8


“Whatsoever man there be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers which sojourn among you, that offereth a burnt offering or sacrifice…”

God explicitly includes “the strangers (foreigners)” living among Israel.
Their sacrifices were accepted under the same system.

This verse shows that Gentiles were allowed to bring sacrifices to the same altar.
If a Gentile could bring a sacrifice, then the priest had to offer it, which means the priest was offering sacrifices connected to Gentiles.

Leviticus 22:18

“Speak unto Aaron, and to his sons, and unto all the children of Israel, and unto the strangers in Israel, that will offer his

One law for Israel​


Numbers 15:14-16

“And if a stranger sojourn with you, or whosoever be among you in your generations, and will offer an offering made by fire… as ye do, so he shall do.
One ordinance shall be both for you of the congregation, and also for the stranger…”

This passage destroys your claim that sacrifice was only for ethnic Israel.

But to not belabor this point....

Isaiah 56:6-7
“Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD…
Even them will I bring to my holy mountain…
for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

God never intended salvation to stop with Israel.

Jesus Himself quoted this in Mark 11:17.

Scripture already answers this.
Leviticus 16:29-30 says the Day of Atonement applied to “the stranger that sojourneth among you.”
Numbers 15:14-16 says a stranger could bring offerings and that “one ordinance shall be both for you and for the stranger.”
Leviticus 17:8 shows strangers bringing sacrifices to the altar.

If a stranger could bring sacrifices, the priest necessarily offered them.

So Scripture itself shows Gentiles were included in the sacrificial system. No one is adding to the Bible you simply overlooked what it says.

Your challenge ignores what the Law actually says.
The "strangers" were the descendants of Ishmael and Esau. They lived in the land of Canaan and in other parts of the ME. God made no covenant with Gentiles. Thus, Gentiles are on the outside. and serve themselves, not Yahweh.
 
You are adding to the Bible.
There is nothing under the Law and under the Ceremonial Law that says the animal sacrifice was made for Gentiles.
The sacrifices were to atone the sins of the children of Israel under the Law. NOT Gentiles.
To add Gentiles after the fact is to add to the Bible things not there in the text.
Your argument is absurd. I quoted both the New and Old Testaments.



You do nothing but ignore both
 
As long as a person is of the seed of Abraham they are heirs according to [God's] Promises.
The LORD knows they that are His.
“Abraham believed, and it was counted as righteousness” thus all who believe are children of Abraham. As Paul says in Romans 4,

16Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may be by grace and may be guaranteed to all Abraham’s offspring—not only to those who are of the law but also to those who have the faith of Abraham. He is the father of us all. 17As it is written: “I have made you a father of many nations.” He is our father in the sight of God, in whom he believed—the God who gives life to the dead and calls into being things that were not.

18Against all hope, Abraham in hope believed and so became the father of many nations, just as it had been said to him, “So shall your offspring be.”


QED

Doug
 
The "strangers" were the descendants of Ishmael and Esau. They lived in the land of Canaan and in other parts of the ME. God made no covenant with Gentiles. Thus, Gentiles are on the outside. and serve themselves, not Yahweh.
The one flock of Good Shepard Jesus are the saved jews and gentiles
 
The "strangers" were the descendants of Ishmael and Esau. They lived in the land of Canaan and in other parts of the ME. God made no covenant with Gentiles. Thus, Gentiles are on the outside. and serve themselves, not Yahweh.
A stranger that sojourneth among you.—That is, one of non-Jewish descent who had renounced idolatry, and-voluntarily joined the Jewish community. (See Exodus 12:19; Exodus 20:10.) Ellicott’s Bible Commentary

A stranger that sojourneth among you - Rather, the foreigner who dwelleth among you. See Exodus 20:10 note. The meaning is, one of foreign blood, who dwelt with the Israelites, had abjured false gods, and had become familiarly known to his neighbors, e. g. the Kenites (Judges 4:11, etc.); the Gibeonites Joshua 9; and a considerable portion of the "mixed multitude" (compare Exodus 12:38, Exodus 12:48). As the foreigner had the blessing and protection of the Law he was bound to obey its statutes.
Barnes notes on the Bible


Doug
 
The "strangers" were the descendants of Ishmael and Esau. They lived in the land of Canaan and in other parts of the ME. God made no covenant with Gentiles. Thus, Gentiles are on the outside. and serve themselves, not Yahweh.
Wrong.
Scripture never defines “strangers” as descendants of Ishmael or Esau. The Hebrew word ger simply means a foreigner living among Israel.

In fact the Bible distinguishes strangers from Edomites (Deut 23:7), showing they are not the same thing.

The Law repeatedly states that the stranger living among Israel was under the same law and could participate in offerings (Numbers 15:14-16; Exodus 12:49).

So the text itself shows foreigners living among Israel could participate in the sacrificial system.
 
Wrong.
Scripture never defines “strangers” as descendants of Ishmael or Esau. The Hebrew word ger simply means a foreigner living among Israel.

In fact the Bible distinguishes strangers from Edomites (Deut 23:7), showing they are not the same thing.

The Law repeatedly states that the stranger living among Israel was under the same law and could participate in offerings (Numbers 15:14-16; Exodus 12:49).

So the text itself shows foreigners living among Israel could participate in the sacrificial system.
Bingo!!!

Doug
 
Your argument is absurd. I quoted both the New and Old Testaments.



You do nothing but ignore both
Again, submit Scripture that under the Ceremonial Law Gentiles are included in the sacrifice to atone sins.
It's either chapter and verse or it's chatter or worse.
 
“Abraham believed, and it was counted as righteousness” thus all who believe are children of Abraham. As Paul says in Romans 4,
Where in the Old Testament does it say that "that all who believe are the children of Abraham" is referring to Gentiles?
Saul is writing in Romans to Jews at Rome. Just the bringing up of Abraham is proof of this. Gentiles know NOTHING of Abraham. Gentiles are all idol-worshipers and the enemy of God.
16Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may be by grace and may be guaranteed to all Abraham’s offspring—not only to those who are of the law but also to those who have the faith of Abraham. He is the father of us all. 17As it is written: “I have made you a father of many nations.” He is our father in the sight of God, in whom he believed—the God who gives life to the dead and calls into being things that were not.

18Against all hope, Abraham in hope believed and so became the father of many nations, just as it had been said to him, “So shall your offspring be.”


QED

Doug
As it says above in addressing Jews, "[Abraham] He is the father of us all" and Saul means JEWS!

There is covenant and blessings (Abraham) and there is only blessings (Ishmaels/Esau). Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and Jacob's descendants are the people of covenant and blessings. The descendants of Ishmael and Esau are only blessed with NO COVENANT.

Stop adding Gentiles to Israel's inheritance. You are adding to the Bible.
 
The one flock of Good Shepard Jesus are the saved jews and gentiles
Provide Scripture that Gentiles were atoned under the Ceremonial Law by the animal sacrifice.
You can't because they were never under the Law of God:

4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Galatians 4:4–5.
 
A stranger that sojourneth among you.—That is, one of non-Jewish descent who had renounced idolatry, and-voluntarily joined the Jewish community. (See Exodus 12:19; Exodus 20:10.) Ellicott’s Bible Commentary

A stranger that sojourneth among you - Rather, the foreigner who dwelleth among you. See Exodus 20:10 note. The meaning is, one of foreign blood, who dwelt with the Israelites, had abjured false gods, and had become familiarly known to his neighbors, e. g. the Kenites (Judges 4:11, etc.); the Gibeonites Joshua 9; and a considerable portion of the "mixed multitude" (compare Exodus 12:38, Exodus 12:48). As the foreigner had the blessing and protection of the Law he was bound to obey its statutes.
Barnes notes on the Bible


Doug
Ellicott is also adding to the Bible. If I asked him to provide Scripture that says Gentiles were atoned along with the children of Israel, He wouldn't be able to provide a passage.
Ishmael had twelve sons. Abraham was the father of many but only Isaac is the son of promise. Ishamel and Esau's descendants were blessed but were not the children of promise. Isaac, Jacob, and Jacob's descendants are the children and people of promise and the true and only inheritors of the Abrahamic Promises.

You and Ellicott and every so-called theologian add to the Bible when they teach Gentiles were under the Law and atoned along with Israel add to the Bible.

But this is what Saul says:

4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. Galatians 4:4–5.

The ONLY people under the Law were the children of Israel. Gentiles were never under the Law. Christ was Promised to Israel to redeem Israel and only Israel.
 
Wrong.
Scripture never defines “strangers” as descendants of Ishmael or Esau. The Hebrew word ger simply means a foreigner living among Israel.

In fact the Bible distinguishes strangers from Edomites (Deut 23:7), showing they are not the same thing.

The Law repeatedly states that the stranger living among Israel was under the same law and could participate in offerings (Numbers 15:14-16; Exodus 12:49).

So the text itself shows foreigners living among Israel could participate in the sacrificial system.
Ishmael had twelve sons. Esau had children also. Then there is Lot and the other nomadic tribes of people in the middle east. Abraham was the father of many nations. Through Ishamel and Esau as well as through Isaac and Jacob and Jacob's twelve sons and their descendants. You had the descendants of Ham and Japheth and you had the descendants of Shem. They were all of Noah, but not all were the children of Eber (Gen. 11) of whom the Chosen people became Chosen to God.
You add to the Bible things it never says.

Ishamel also participated in sacrifices. But it is the seed of Isaac and Jacob to whom the inheritance was given.
 
Again, submit Scripture that under the Ceremonial Law Gentiles are included in the sacrifice to atone sins.
It's either chapter and verse or it's chatter or worse.
Did you fail to read? I gave you, many verses. Book, chapter and verse

From the New Testament

Um, in case you forgot, Christ died for all the people of the world.

2 Cor 5:14–15 For the love of Christ controls us, having concluded this, that one died for all, therefore all died; and He died for all, so that they who live might no longer live for themselves, but for Him who died and rose again on their behalf.
1 John 2:2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.
1 Tim 2:3–6 This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time.
Heb 2:9 But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone.
John 3:16–17 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.
Rom 5:18 So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men.
Titus 2:11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men,
1 Tim 4:10 For it is for this we labor and strive, because we have fixed our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers.
If you are depending on animals for your salvation today, you are in a sorrowful position.
Acts 10:34–35Opening his mouth, Peter said: “I most certainly understand now that God is not one to show partiality, but in every nation the man who fears Him and does what is right is welcome to Him.
Gal 3:28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Rom 10:12–13For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; for “Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
Eph 2:11–22Therefore remember that formerly you, the Gentiles in the flesh, who are called “Uncircumcision” by the so-called “Circumcision,” which is performed in the flesh by human hands— remember that you were at that time separate from Christ, excluded from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who formerly were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. For He Himself is our peace, who made both groups into one and broke down the barrier of the dividing wall, by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace, and might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, by it having put to death the enmity. And He came and preached peace to you who were far away, and peace to those who were near; for through Him we both have our access in one Spirit to the Father. So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints, and are of God’s household, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together into a dwelling of God in the Spirit.
Acts 15:7–11After there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brethren, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles would hear the word of the gospel and believe. And God, who knows the heart, testified to them giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He also did to us; and He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith. Now therefore why do you put God to the test by placing upon the neck of the disciples a yoke which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? But we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they also are.”
Rom 3:29–30Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one.
Col 3:11a renewal in which there is no distinction between Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave and freeman, but Christ is all, and in all.
Acts 11:18When they heard this, they quieted down and glorified God, saying, “Well then, God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life.”
Rom 1:16For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

And the Old Testament


Ps 22:27–28 All the ends of the earth will remember and turn to the Lord, And all the families of the nations will worship before You. For the kingdom is the Lord’s And He rules over the nations.
Ps 86:9 All nations whom You have made shall come and worship before You, O Lord, And they shall glorify Your name.
Isa 49:6 He says, “It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant To raise up the tribes of Jacob and to restore the preserved ones of Israel; I will also make You a light of the nations So that My salvation may reach to the end of the earth.”
Isa 2:2–3 Now it will come about that In the last days The mountain of the house of the Lord Will be established as the chief of the mountains, And will be raised above the hills; And all the nations will stream to it. And many peoples will come and say, “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, To the house of the God of Jacob; That He may teach us concerning His ways And that we may walk in His paths.” For the law will go forth from Zion And the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
Mal 1:11 For from the rising of the sun even to its setting, My name will be great among the nations, and in every place incense is going to be offered to My name, and a grain offering that is pure; for My name will be great among the nations,” says the Lord of hosts.
Isa 66:18–19 “For I know their works and their thoughts; the time is coming to gather all nations and tongues. And they shall come and see My glory. I will set a sign among them and will send survivors from them to the nations: Tarshish, Put, Lud, Meshech, Tubal and Javan, to the distant coastlands that have neither heard My fame nor seen My glory. And they will declare My glory among the nations.
Dan 7:14 “And to Him was given dominion, Glory and a kingdom, That all the peoples, nations and men of every language Might serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion Which will not pass away; And His kingdom is one Which will not be destroyed.
Isa 56:7 Even those I will bring to My holy mountain And make them joyful in My house of prayer. Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be acceptable on My altar; For My house will be called a house of prayer for all the peoples.”

Zech 8:20–23 “Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘It will yet be that peoples will come, even the inhabitants of many cities. The inhabitants of one will go to another, saying, “Let us go at once to entreat the favor of the Lord, and to seek the Lord of hosts; I will also go.” So many peoples and mighty nations will come to seek the Lord of hosts in Jerusalem and to entreat the favor of the Lord.’ “Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘In those days ten men from all the nations will grasp the garment of a Jew, saying, “Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.” ’ ”

Isa 25:6–8 The Lord of hosts will prepare a lavish banquet for all peoples on this mountain; A banquet of aged wine, choice pieces with marrow, And refined, aged wine. And on this mountain He will swallow up the covering which is over all peoples, Even the veil which is stretched over all nations. He will swallow up death for all time, And the Lord God will wipe tears away from all faces, And He will remove the reproach of His people from all the earth; For the Lord has spoken.

Ps 67 God be gracious to us and bless us, And cause His face to shine upon us— Selah. That Your way may be known on the earth, Your salvation among all nations. Let the peoples praise You, O God; Let all the peoples praise You. Let the nations be glad and sing for joy; For You will judge the peoples with uprightness And guide the nations on the earth. Selah. Let the peoples praise You, O God; Let all the peoples praise You. The earth has yielded its produce; God, our God, blesses us. God blesses us, That all the ends of the earth may fear Him.

Even more, may I post, but sadly, your thinking is severely distorted, ignoring much scripture.

Salvation is through Christ not animals, and through such a belief you lack any salvation.
 
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Provide Scripture that Gentiles were atoned under the Ceremonial Law by the animal sacrifice.
You can't because they were never under the Law of God:

4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Galatians 4:4–5.
Jesus came as promised messiah to the jews first, but only the remnant received Him as such, and then God moved to the gentiles thru Apostle Paul to give us that good news and to have us now included among spiritual Israel of the new Covenant
 
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