Reading Romans 10 without verses 8-12

[mikesw]

I have an understanding of Romans 9-11 as a continuous argument of God's faithfulness, especially to fulfill the promises to Israel. But one obstacle to overcome when reading chapter 10 is 10:8-12. The reason I speak of this as an obstacle is that those verses are so powerful they obscure the broader context.
Has anyone tried reading around these verses to help understand the context? Does anyone want to try that now and then note if they can see the context better?

 

[TomL]

I have an understanding of Romans 9-11 as a continuous argument of God's faithfulness, especially to fulfill the promises to Israel. But one obstacle to overcome when reading chapter 10 is 10:8-12. The reason I speak of this as an obstacle is that those verses are so powerful they obscure the broader context.
Has anyone tried reading around these verses to help understand the context? Does anyone want to try that now and then note if they can see the context better?

I think it goes well with Rom 9:30-33

 

[mikesw]

I think it goes well with Rom 9:30-33

I am recommending the opposite task. Figure out the continuity between the preceding verses and subsequent ones to the passage. After omitting consideration of vv 8-12, their contribution can be blended back. I'm just seeing if this helps anyone read Rom 10 differently.

 

[TomL]

I am recommending the opposite task. Figure out the continuity between the preceding verses and subsequent ones to the passage. After omitting consideration of vv 8-12, their contribution can be blended back. I'm just seeing if this helps anyone read Rom 10 differently.

As Rom 9:30-33 is a summary statement concerning Rom 9 I do not see any such need as Rom 10:10ff is quite consistent with it

 

[mikesw]

As Rom 9:30-33 is a summary statement concerning Rom 9 I do not see any such need as Rom 10:10ff is quite consistent with it

I have now posted my 2008 outline of Rom 9-11. I think it is pretty close to the ideas I hold now, but the wording might be changed to update (or enhance) the concepts and show some continuing applicability of the message.
The Romans 9-11 thread is at this link: #link outline-of-central-message-in-romans-9-11.2079/post-117992

I've not reviewed whether this outline would counter anything you have said about Rom 10

 

[TomL]

I have now posted my 2008 outline of Rom 9-11. I think it is pretty close to the ideas I hold now, but the wording might be changed to update (or enhance) the concepts and show some continuing applicability of the message.
The Romans 9-11 thread is at this link: #link outline-of-central-message-in-romans-9-11.2079/post-117992

I've not reviewed whether this outline would counter anything you have said about Rom 10

Ok