propitiation

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1 Jn 2:2

2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

What does it mean for Christ to be our propitiation ? Its the greek word hilasmos:
  1. an appeasing, propitiating
  2. the means of appeasing, a propitiation
  3. "to pacify, make peace, or be reconciled".

Now it is mostly taught and believed that the whole world here is every son of adam ever born, but if that was true, we would have the false teaching of universalism, because the ones Jesus is the propitiation for, present tense, they are Justified before God, God for Christs sake is at peace with them and forgiving of all their sins.


Usage: The term "hilasmos" refers to the act of appeasing or satisfying the wrath of a deity, specifically through a sacrificial offering. In the New Testament, it is used to describe the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ, which satisfies the righteous demands of God’s justice and turns away His wrath from sinners. It emphasizes the reconciliation between God and humanity through Christ's sacrificial death. https://biblehub.com/greek/2434.htm

Now its word origin is 2433 hiláskomai :

I have mercy on, show favor to, (b) trans. with object of sins: I forgive, pardon.

Its the word used in Lk 18:13-14
God be merciful to me

And scripture says of that person this:

14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

The sinner was Justified based on God being merciful/propitious towards him, and this had to be based on Christs sacrifice on his behalf.

Heb 2:17

17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation[propitiation for the sins of the people.

So you see, If He is the propitiation for every son of adam, then they are all Justified/saved, and we know that's not true, for many are under His unappeased wrath

Eph 5 6

Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
 
In 1 John 4:10 hilasmos/ translated as propitiation in some translations there cannot mean sooth anger and must mean something else( Expiation) than what is taught in christendom. God says love 3 times in that passage so it cannot mean anger being soothed. It means expiation as in covering for sin.

I always go to Christ who is God as my primary source of truth. His teaching must not contradict anyone else in scripture. If there seems to be a contradiction then it is with mans understanding on the topic not from Jesus teaching. He is God and He is the authority on all things. Not once did Jesus even hint Hid death was propitiation as taught by the reformers meaning appeasing an angry deity- that concept is pagan. That is why propitiation is not a good translation, expiation is the better translation and meaning in 1 John.

How did He view His own death- the atonement ?

We see God the Son described His own death, the Atonement in 4 ways. Theology begins with God. He said His death was a Substitution, a Ransom, a Passover, a Sacrifice and for forgiveness of sins- Expiation

1- Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. John 15:13 Substitution, Ransom

2-No man takes my life I lay it down and I will take it up again- John 10:18 Substitution, Ransom

3- I lay My life down for the sheep- John 10:15 Substitution, Ransom

4- Jesus viewed His death as the Passover John 6:51

5-just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a Ransom for many- Matthew 20:28

6-I Am the Good Shepherd who lays down His life for the sheep- Substitution, John 10:11

7-Jesus said in John 11:50- nor do you take into account that it is expedient for you that one man die for the people, and that the whole nation not perish- Substitution

8 -This is my blood of the Covenant which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins- Matthew 26:28- Expiation

The N.T. writers' emphasis on the atonement is on the side of expiation rather than propitiation, which is only used twice in the epistle of 1 John. Gods’ wrath is still future and will judge those who reject His Sons atonement for sin. Gods’ wrath was not poured out on the Son for sin otherwise there would be no future wrath from God because of sin.

If we were to read propitiation ( appease an angry god as the meaning ) in 1 John 4:10 look at how absurd if reads.

This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son to appease our angry god , to appease His anger, to appease his angry self etc.......for our sins.

That makes no sense at all theologically , grammatically or contextually. It’s a contradiction, an oxymoron.


These translations properly convey the meaning of hilasmos.

Berean Standard Bible
And love consists in this: not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son as the atoning sacrifice for our sins.

New International Version
This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.

New Living Translation
This is real love—not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as a sacrifice to take away our sins.

Christian Standard Bible
Love consists in this: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the atoning sacrifice for our sins.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
In this is love: it was not that we loved God, but he has loved us, and he sent us his Son, the atonement for the sake of our sins.

Contemporary English Version
Real love isn't our love for God, but his love for us. God sent his Son to be the sacrifice by which our sins are forgiven.

Good News Translation
This is what love is: it is not that we have loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the means by which our sins are forgiven.

International Standard Version
This is love: not that we have loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the atoning sacrifice for our sins.

Majority Standard Bible
And love consists in this: not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son as the atoning sacrifice for our sins.

New American Bible
In this is love: not that we have loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as expiation for our sins.

NET Bible
In this is love: not that we have loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the atoning sacrifice for our sins.

New Revised Standard Version
In this is love, not that we loved God but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the atoning sacrifice for our sins.

New Heart English Bible
In this is love, not that we have loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son as the atoning sacrifice for our sins.

Weymouth New Testament
This is love indeed--we did not love God, but He loved us and sent His Son to be an atoning sacrifice for our sins.

World English Bible
In this is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son as the atoning sacrifice for our sins.
 
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Here are the only three uses of “propitiation” in the KJV:

“Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation(G2435) through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.” (Rom 3:25-26)

“And he is the propitiation (G2434) for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.” (1 John 2:2)

“Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation(G2434) for our sins.” (1 John 4:10)

As we will see, this is a very poor word to use to translate the original Greek.

Here are the definitions given for the Greek words used for propitiation:

Original Word Definitions

G2434 ἱλασμός hilasmos hil-as-mos’

a root word; n m;
AV-propitiation 2; 2
1) an appeasing, propitiating
2) the means of appeasing, a propitiation

G2435 ἱλαστήριον hilasterion hil-as-tay’-ree-on
from a derivative of G2433; n n;
AV-propitiation 1, mercyseat 1; 2
1) relating to an appeasing or expiating, having placating or expiating force, expiatory; a means of appeasing or expiating, a propitiation
1a)
used of the cover of the ark of the covenant in the Holy of Holies, which was sprinkled with the blood of the expiatory victim on the annual day of atonement (this rite signifying that the life of the people, the loss of which they had merited by their sins, was offered to God in the blood as the life of the victim, and that God by this ceremony was appeased and their sins expiated); hence the lid of expiation, the propitiatory
1b) an expiatory sacrifice
1c) an expiatory victim

Since G2435 comes from G2433 we should look at that word:

2433 ἱλάσκομαι hilaskomai hil-as’-kom-ahee
middle voice from the same as 2436; v;
AV-be merciful 1, make reconciliation 1; 2
1) to render one’s self, to appease, conciliate to one’s self
1a) to become propitious, be placated or appeased
1b) to be propitious, be gracious, be merciful
2) to expiate, make propitiation for

There is only one other verse that uses “hilasterion” (G2435):

“And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; (G2435) of which we cannot now speak particularly.” (Heb 9:5)

That verse suggests that “hilasterion” is a place where mercy is given – quite different from the usual meaning of propitiation.

So, if that word had been used in Romans 3:25, would that give the verse a different meaning?

“Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiationmercy seat …”

It literally means “a place or means of reconciliation, a place where atonement or unity and at-one-ment takes place.”

The only two verses that use “hilaskomai” (G2433) are:

“And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful (G2433) to me a sinner.” (Luke 18:13)

“Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for (G2433) the sins of the people.” (Heb 2:17)

Those verses do not suggest anything like propitiation. What are the effects of the translation of a word meaning mercy seat as propitiation? They can’t be good.

Where did the Concept of Propitiation Come From?

Many (if not all) pagan cultures embrace the concept of propitiation and appeasement. Here is another example of modern misunderstanding:

“… Propitiation is an ancient word, which we as Christians have in common with other world religions. To propitiate a god is to offer a sacrifice that turns aside the god’s wrath. Anyone who believes in a god knows that they need some way to stay on the friendly side of that god. So they give gifts to the god, or serve in the temple, or give alms. And if the god is angry with them, they pay a price, or make a sacrifice, or find some way to soothe the god’s anger: they propitiate him.”(https://maney.us/blog/2014/03/25/trevin-wax-pagan-propitiation-vs-biblical-propitiation/)

Do we really need a way to stay on the friendly side of God? What about “God is love”?

Here are verses using “propitiation” (in the KJV):

“God presented Jesus as the way and the means of restoration. Now, through the trust established by the evidence of God’s character revealed when Christ died, we may partake of the Remedy procured by Christ. God did this to demonstrate that he is right and good — because in his forbearance he suspended, for a time, the ultimate consequence of us being out of harmony with his design for life — yet he has been falsely accused of being unfair. 26 He did it to demonstrate at the present time how right and good he is, so that he would also be seen as being right when he heals those who trust in Jesus.” (Rom 3:25-26, )

“This is what real love is: It is not that we have loved God, or that we have done something to get him to love us, but that he loved us so much that he sent his Son to become the Remedy and cure for the infection of sin and selfishness so that through him we might be restored into perfect unity with God.” (1 John 4:10, ) https://characterofgod.org/propitiation-definition/

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1 Jn 2:2

2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

What does it mean for Christ to be our propitiation ? Its the greek word hilasmos:
  1. an appeasing, propitiating
  2. the means of appeasing, a propitiation
  3. "to pacify, make peace, or be reconciled".

Now it is mostly taught and believed that the whole world here is every son of adam ever born, but if that was true, we would have the false teaching of universalism, because the ones Jesus is the propitiation for, present tense, they are Justified before God, God for Christs sake is at peace with them and forgiving of all their sins.


Now its word origin is 2433 hiláskomai :

I have mercy on, show favor to, (b) trans. with object of sins: I forgive, pardon.

Its the word used in Lk 18:13-14
God be merciful to me

And scripture says of that person this:

14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

The sinner was Justified based on God being merciful/propitious towards him, and this had to be based on Christs sacrifice on his behalf.

Heb 2:17

17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation[propitiation for the sins of the people.

So you see, If He is the propitiation for every son of adam, then they are all Justified/saved, and we know that's not true, for many are under His unappeased wrath

Eph 5 6

Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

The appeasement of God's wrath is only fulfilled on those who by prevenient/synergistic grace have faith. The rest are unappeased. There is no universalism.
 
I think the concept of propitiation underlies another unexpected sense. John 3:17 speaks of saving the world. This is because God demonstrates his love for the world by giving his Son in 3:16. The meaning of "world" can be the people broadly speaking or the sum of creation. The implication is then like Noah's flood as saving the world or, in other terms, preserving the continuity of creation that otherwise would have been totally destroyed. I think we see this salvation of the world in John 3:17 per D. A. Carson:
That not all of the world will be saved is made perfectly clear by the next verses (vv. 18–21); but God’s purpose in the mission of Jesus was to bring salvation to it. That is why Jesus is later called ‘the Saviour of the world’ (4:42; cf. 1 Jn. 4:14)
D. A. Carson, The Gospel according to John, PNTC (Inter-Varsity Press; W.B. Eerdmans, 1991), 207.
It is God's love of the world that sets the tone. It is not expected that this meant every person in it, since many would perish. So this must indicate for verse 17 that his love involves the broad scheme of creation. The converse point of this salvation is that the world would have had to be destroyed, perhaps for the general course of humanity that would have happened otherwise.
 
Wrong, the appeasement of Gods wrath is fulfilled by the Death and Blood of Christ for the elect.

No. Because then people would be saved the instant Christ died rather than wait years in unappeasement still under the wrath before possibly getting saved.

It takes the atonement but God's wrath is appeased when men by prevenient grace have faith.
 
No. Because then people would be saved the instant Christ died rather than wait years in unappeasement still under the wrath before possibly getting saved.

It takes the atonement but God's wrath is appeased when men by prevenient grace have faith.
Wrong, the appeasement of Gods wrath is fulfilled by the Death and Blood of Christ for the elect. All for whom He died will be saved, that is converted into believers, God is reconciled to them even when they are His enemies, because He is propitiated by Christs death for them Rom 5:10

For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Reconciliation and propitiation are one, in fact the word propitiation is translated reconciliation here Heb 2:17

17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
 
From my college days of studying propitiation and the ensuing debates of it. I saw propitiation very simple. Christ satisfied our sin debt. Isn't that simple. Jesus Christ died on the Cross and satisfied our sin debt, we are now reconciled to God
 
From my college days of studying propitiation and the ensuing debates of it. I saw propitiation very simple. Christ satisfied our sin debt. Isn't that simple. Jesus Christ died on the Cross and satisfied our sin debt, we are now reconciled to God
Very simple, I like it.

The New Testament uses the word “propitiation” four times: Romans 3:25; Hebrews 2:17; 1 John 2:2; 1 John 4:10. Not all translations include Hebrews 2:17 in this list. Some translations use the word “expiation” in that verse; others use “atoning sacrifice.” Propitiation and expiation are not synonyms. Propitiation is something done to another. Christ propitiated God in that He satisfied God’s judgment against sin. Expiation is something done to crimes or violations of the law—it means to cleanse or remove. So Christ propitiated God and expiated our sins. Both were acts of grace made possible by the shed blood of Christ on our behalf.

David Jeremiah, Captured by Grace: No One Is Beyond the Reach of a Loving God
 
From my college days of studying propitiation and the ensuing debates of it. I saw propitiation very simple. Christ satisfied our sin debt. Isn't that simple. Jesus Christ died on the Cross and satisfied our sin debt, we are now reconciled to God
Whose "our sin debt" ? And does that mean one is Justified before God ?
 
Thats it ? And does that mean one is Justified before God ?
We are Justified, before God, by Grace. God does all the work for us. Let go and Let God, do His work in you.

Romans 3:24- being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.
Romans 5:1 - Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
Romans 8:30 -Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.

Ephesians 3:20 -Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
 
Wrong, the appeasement of Gods wrath is fulfilled by the Death and Blood of Christ for the elect. All for whom He died will be saved, that is converted into believers, God is reconciled to them even when they are His enemies, because He is propitiated by Christs death for them Rom 5:10

For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Reconciliation and propitiation are one, in fact the word propitiation is translated reconciliation here Heb 2:17

17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

This doesn't prove there's no unappeased wrath on people before they're saved, despite the completion of the atonement. ...

Nor does it prove He pre-picked who to die for and not the rest. Nor does it prove the atonement provides faith.

Thus the atonement only pays for a stockpile of forgiveness for when the time comes when people have prevenient faith. Meanwhile they're under unappeased wrath.

Ephesians 2:3 (KJV) Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and **were by nature the children of wrath, even as others**.
 
We are Justified, before God, by Grace. God does all the work for us. Let go and Let God, do His work in you.

Romans 3:24- being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.
Romans 5:1 - Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
Romans 8:30 -Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.

Ephesians 3:20 -Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
yes by grace and faith.
 
This doesn't prove there's no unappeased wrath on people before they're saved, despite the completion of the atonement. ...

Nor does it prove He pre-picked who to die for and not the rest. Nor does it prove the atonement provides faith.

Thus the atonement only pays for a stockpile of forgiveness for when the time comes when people have prevenient faith. Meanwhile they're under unappeased wrath.

Ephesians 2:3 (KJV) Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and **were by nature the children of wrath, even as others**.
ditto
 
1 Jn 2:2

2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

What does it mean for Christ to be our propitiation ? Its the greek word hilasmos:
  1. an appeasing, propitiating
  2. the means of appeasing, a propitiation
  3. "to pacify, make peace, or be reconciled".

Now it is mostly taught and believed that the whole world here is every son of adam ever born, but if that was true, we would have the false teaching of universalism, because the ones Jesus is the propitiation for, present tense, they are Justified before God, God for Christs sake is at peace with them and forgiving of all their sins.




Now its word origin is 2433 hiláskomai :

I have mercy on, show favor to, (b) trans. with object of sins: I forgive, pardon.

Its the word used in Lk 18:13-14
God be merciful to me

And scripture says of that person this:

14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

The sinner was Justified based on God being merciful/propitious towards him, and this had to be based on Christs sacrifice on his behalf.

Heb 2:17

17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation[propitiation for the sins of the people.

So you see, If He is the propitiation for every son of adam, then they are all Justified/saved, and we know that's not true, for many are under His unappeased wrath

Eph 5 6

Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

A Biblical lesson on the Atonement.

Propitiation
- the turning away of God's anger/wrath

Expiation- the covering for our sins

Through expiation—the work of Christ on the cross for us—the sin of all those who would ever believe in Christ was canceled. That cancellation is eternal in its consequence, even though sin is still present in the temporal sense. In other words, believers are delivered from the penalty and power of sin, but not the presence of it. Justification is the term for being delivered from the penalty of sin. This is a one-time act wherein the sinner is justified and made holy and righteous in the eyes of God, who exchanged our sinful natures for the righteousness of Christ at the cross (2 Corinthians 5:21). Sanctification is the ongoing process whereby believers are delivered from the power of sin in their lives and are enabled by the new nature to resist and turn away from it. Glorification is when we are removed from the very presence of sin, which will only occur once we leave this world and are in heaven. All these processes—justification, sanctification, and glorification—are made possible through the expiation or cancellation of sin. (gotquestions.org)

Propitiation vs. Expiation- The New Testament usage of hilaskomai and hilasmos, consistent with its precedent usage in the Greek Old Testament, speaks consistently of God’s atoning action in Christ directed toward sin on behalf of sinners, not human action directed toward God to satisfy God. The criterion for interpretation, Stott has said, “is whether the object of the atoning action is God or man.” “Propitiation” indicates an action by humans directed toward God, and “expiation” indicates an action by God toward sin and sinners. According to Stott's criterion, these texts favor "expiation" over “propitiation.” Given the choice of translating hilastērion either “propitiation” or “expiation,” therefore, “expiation” is preferable based on the textual evidence of both the New Testament and the Greek Old Testament. James Dunn summarizes well the case for preferring “expiation” to “propitiation” as a translation for hilastērion: Darrin W. Snyder Belousek, Atonement, Justice, and Peace: The Message of the Cross and the Mission of the Church (Grand Rapids, MI; Cambridge, U.K.: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 2012), 247–252.


Purification for sin- καθαρισμός- katharismos: a cleansing, purifying, purification, expiation. Strongs 2512.

Thayers: a cleansing from the guilt of sins (see καθαρίζω, 1 b. β.): wrought now by baptism, 2 Peter 1:9, now by the expiatory sacrifice of Christ, Hebrews 1:3 on which cf. Kurtz, Commentary, p. 70; (Exodus 30:10; τῆς ἁμαρτίας μου, Job 7:21; of an atonement, Lucian, asin. 22)

Hebrews 1:3-And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high;

Purification for sin is in the blood of Christ in the Atonement

Matthew 26:26-29

While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is my body.”27 Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. 29 I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.”

Hebrews 9:22
Because all things are purged by blood in The Written Law, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.

Leviticus 4:20,26,35
And he shall do with the bullock as he did with the bullock for a sin offering, so shall he do with this: and the priest shall make an atonement for them, and it shall be forgiven them

Leviticus 6:7
And the priest shall make an atonement for him before the LORD: and it shall be forgiven him for any thing of all that he hath done in trespassing therein.

Leviticus 17:11
For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for your souls upon the altar; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul.

Hebrews 9
Now the first covenant had regulations for worship and also an earthly sanctuary. 2 A tabernacle was set up. In its first room were the lampstand and the table with its consecrated bread; this was called the Holy Place. 3 Behind the second curtain was a room called the Most Holy Place, 4 which had the golden altar of incense and the gold-covered ark of the covenant. This ark contained the gold jar of manna, Aaron’s staff that had budded, and the stone tablets of the covenant. 5 Above the ark were the cherubim of the Glory, overshadowing the atonement cover. But we cannot discuss these things in detail now. 6 When everything had been arranged like this, the priests entered regularly into the outer room to carry on their ministry. 7 But only the high priest entered the inner room, and that only once a year, and never without blood, which he offered for himself and for the sins the people had committed in ignorance. 8 The Holy Spirit was showing by this that the way into the Most Holy Place had not yet been disclosed as long as the first tabernacle was still functioning. 9 This is an illustration for the present time, indicating that the gifts and sacrifices being offered were not able to clear the conscience of the worshiper. 10 They are only a matter of food and drink and various ceremonial washings—external regulations applying until the time of the new order.

The forgiveness of sins is found only in the blood of Christ- His life which He gave as a sacrifice for sin. That is the heart of the Atonement. It is what the New Covenant is found upon His blood, His life which was given for our sins. Forgiveness is only found in His blood that He gave His life on our behalf. That is how are sins are removed and taken away. That is what the Law required for sin was the blood of the animal sacrifice.

There is no "punishment" above anywhere. There is a sacrifice provided which covers and provides forgiveness of sins. The entire book of Hebrews is built upon the OT Law and how it is fulfilled in Christ.

Jesus said He gave His life as a Ransom . Strongs 3038- Lutron λύτρον. the purchasing money for manumitting slaves, a ransom, the price of ransoming; especially the sacrifice by which expiation is effected, an offering of expiation. Thayers: λύτρον, λύτρου, τό (λύω), the Sept. passim for כֹּפֶר, גְּאֻלָּה, פִּדְיון, etc.; the price for redeeming, ransom (paid for slaves, Leviticus 19:20; for captives, Isaiah 45:13; for the ransom of a life, Exodus 21:30; Numbers 35:31f): ἀντί πολλῶν, to liberate many from the misery and penalty of their sins, Matthew 20:28; Mark 10:45. (Pindar, Aeschylus, Xenophon, Plato, others.)

Matthew 20:28- just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life as a ransom for many

hilastērion – the atonement is received by Faith.

Romans 3:25

God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished. NIV

Romans 3:25
whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. ESV

The Atonement is received by faith. The offering of the Atonement for sin cannot be obtained apart from faith. The atonement for sin has been made and it cannot be applied to mankind apart from faith. Jesus has made an atonement for sin but it produces no reconciliation, no pardon from sin, no remission of sin unless is accepted or received by faith.

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The fallacy of the sufficient for all, efficient for some with the Atonement.

We must go back to the gospel and what the scriptures teach about the good news of Jesus death, burial and resurrection as defined in 1 Corinthians 15.

1 Corinthians 15:17- And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins.

The passage declares if Christ is not risen, raised from the dead, resurrected then our faith is in vain and we are still dead in our sins. We are saved by His life/Resurrection not His death. His death atoned for sin but does not give life.

Romans 4:24-25
but also for us, to whom God will credit righteousness—for us who believe in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead. 25 He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.

Paul declares in Romans 5:10 the following: For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life! Cf Acts 17:31.

John 11:25-26
Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; 26 and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?”

We know that faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of Christ. Romans 10:17. We know that God saves those who believe – 1 Corinthians 1:21. We know that we receive the spirit and are sealed with the spirit through belief in the gospel- Ephesians 1:13.

Sin is the transgression of the law- 1 John 3:4. Sin is known thorough/by the law- Romans 7:7. The law is a schoolmaster to bring us to Christ- Galatians 3:24-25. Where there is no law there is no transgression of the law- Romans 4:14. Sin is not counted against anyone when there is no law. Romans 5:13.

In Colossians 2:13-15 we read the following: When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14 having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross. 15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.

Ephesians 2:14-15: For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility.

2 Corinthians 5:18-20: All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation. 20 We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God.

So, we see from the above scriptures it’s not sin per se that keeps the sinner from God it is unbelief. Faith is the issue. In Romans 5:1-2 we read the following: Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God

Its unbelief that keeps one from salvation and places them under condemnation. This is taught throughout the N.T. gospels and epistles. Here we see what Jesus and Paul declared below.

John 3:18: Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

John 3:36: Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them

Romans 11:20: Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith.

Hebrews 3:19: So, we see that they were not able to enter, because of their unbelief. Cf Heb 4:6- unbelief

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