propitiation

[civic]

The major problem with the OP is their doctrines rob biblical words and their meaning and are hijacked and redefined. Words such as the gospel, faith, regeneration, chosen, sheep, elect, election, predestination, atonement, sovereignty, love, world, all , everyone, whosoever, just to name a few and then replace them all with an unbiblical doctrine called tulip, determinism.

 

[brightfame52]

We are Justified, before God, by Grace. God does all the work for us. Let go and Let God, do His work in you.

Romans 3:24- being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.
Romans 5:1 - Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
Romans 8:30 -Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.

Ephesians 3:20 -Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,

You are confusing, no clear testimony

 

[civic]

You are confusing, no clear testimony

nope he is spot on as we have both demonstrated with a plethora of scripture that exposes your false theology.

 

[brightfame52]

This doesn't prove there's no unappeased wrath on people before they're saved, despite the completion of the atonement. ...

Nor does it prove He pre-picked who to die for and not the rest. Nor does it prove the atonement provides faith.

Thus the atonement only pays for a stockpile of forgiveness for when the time comes when people have prevenient faith. Meanwhile they're under unappeased wrath.

Ephesians 2:3 (KJV) Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and **were by nature the children of wrath, even as others**.

It doesnt prove it to you, thats not my problem. Thats between you and God. My convictions aren't premised on what you think is proof

 

[brightfame52]

@civic

Through expiation—the work of Christ on the cross for us—the sin of all those who would ever believe in Christ was canceled. That cancellation is eternal in its consequence, even though sin is still present in the temporal sense. In other words, believers are delivered from the penalty and power of sin, but not the presence of it. Justification is the term for being delivered from the penalty of sin. This is a one-time act wherein the sinner is justified and made holy and righteous in the eyes of God, who exchanged our sinful natures for the righteousness of Christ at the cross (2 Corinthians 5:21). Sanctification is the ongoing process whereby believers are delivered from the power of sin in their lives and are enabled by the new nature to resist and turn away from it. Glorification is when we are removed from the very presence of sin, which will only occur once we leave this world and are in heaven. All these processes—justification, sanctification, and glorification—are made possible through the expiation or cancellation of sin. (gotquestions.org)

Propitiation is reconciliation/Justification. 1 Jn 2:2 is the whole world of the Justified

 

[civic]

@civic



Propitiation is reconciliation/Justification. 1 Jn 2:2 is the whole world of the Justified

nope you added reconciliation and justification to the passage.

YIKES once again its a big no no with a promise/curse attached to those who add or take away from Gods word.

 

[brightfame52]

nope you added reconciliation and justification to the passage.

YIKES once again its a big no no with a promise/curse attached to those who add or take away from Gods word.

I explained it theologically, they suppose to be there