Appeasement of a Monster God?

[Fitzpatrick]

Here is some more

21. R. C. Sproul: "It was as if there was a cry from heaven - excuse my language, but I can be no more accurate than to say - it was as if Jesus heard the words 'God Damn You.' Because that's what it meant to be cursed, to be damned, to be under the anathema of the Father. As I said, I don't understand that, but I know that it's true."

R. C. Sproul, "And God Cursed Him," April 19, 2019, https://www.ligonier.org/blog/god-cursed-him/, Accessed 03 December 2019.

22. R. C. Sproul: "God is too holy to even look at iniquity. God the Father turned His back on the Son, cursing Him to the pit of hell while He hung on the cross. Here was the Son’s “descent into hell.” Here the fury of God raged against Him. His scream was the scream of the damned. For us."

R. C. Sproul, "Treasuring Redemption’s Price," September 13, 2009, https://www.ligonier.org/blog/treasuring-redemptions-price/, Accessed 30 November 2019.

contains addition quotes from other writers

Is It Biblical To Say Jesus Was Damned By God On The Cross?

1. The Holy Spirit, through the Apostle Paul: "Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us - for it is ...

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I can't listen to that, Just the title turns me off.

 

[TomL]

I can't listen to that, Just the title turns me off.

I hear you.

 

[Fitzpatrick]

Note that not only does Christ sacrifice himself on behalf of others, die in their place, and settle their account of sin, but he also becomes a “curse”—bearing that which should have fallen on sinful humanity. This is the very heart of penal substitution; the innocent receives the penalty due the guilty, and the guilty receive the pardon due the innocent.

 

[TomL]

Note that not only does Christ sacrifice himself on behalf of others, die in their place, and settle their account of sin, but he also becomes a “curse”—bearing that which should have fallen on sinful humanity. This is the very heart of penal substitution; the innocent receives the penalty due the guilty, and the guilty receive the pardon due the innocent.

The curse resides in the fact that he was hung on a tree

Galatians 3:13 (ESV) — 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”—

 

[Azriel]

The curse resides in the fact that he was hung on a tree

Galatians 3:13 (ESV) — 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”—

That goes along with our little discussion about Judas. Did he hang from a tree? Inquiring minds want to know.

How did Judas die? | GotQuestions.org

How did Judas die? Why do the accounts of Judas' death in Matthew and Acts seem to contradict each other?

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[TomL]

That goes along with our little discussion about Judas. Did he hang from a tree? Inquiring minds want to know.

How did Judas die? | GotQuestions.org

How did Judas die? Why do the accounts of Judas' death in Matthew and Acts seem to contradict each other?

www.gotquestions.org

Yes but he was not held up and falling he burst apart

 

[TedT]

Monster God Is right.. if it’s true that God’s wrath must be appeased by sacrificing his own Son, then don’t we have to conclude that pagans who have throughout history sacrificed their children to appease the gods’ wrath had the right intuition, even if they expressed it in the wrong way? I mean we should be imitators of God right?

Wrong. Amazingly wrong!

GOD did not sacrifice Christ for us...Christ is our GOD!
The Divine Son chose to be the sacrifice for us to appease the legal requirements of our redemption. No one forced Him to die, no one sacrificed Him against His will such as we find in all the examples of pagan sacrifice.

Pagans sacrifice other people for their own sin - they don't sacrifice themselves for another's sin. Copy them and die with them...

 

[Fitzpatrick]

Wrong. Amazingly wrong!

GOD did not sacrifice Christ for us...Christ is our GOD!
The Divine Son chose to be the sacrifice for us to appease the legal requirements of our redemption. No one forced Him to die, no one sacrificed Him against His will such as we find in all the examples of pagan sacrifice.

Pagans sacrifice other people for their own sin - they don't sacrifice themselves for another's sin. Copy them and die with them...

No one took his life from, him he laid it down. The plan started in the Garden of Eden.

 

[civic]

Hi Fitzpatrick have you read psalm 22 in view of Jesus, God didn't hide his face from him, when Jesus cried out God heard and reacted

Psalm 22:16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O Lord: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.
22 I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.
23 Ye that fear the Lord, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.
24 For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard.

Exactly !!!

Psalm 22:24
For he has not despised or scorned
the suffering of the afflicted one;
he has not hidden his face from him
but has listened to his cry for help.

Luke 23:46
Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last.

John 16:32
"A time is coming and in fact has come when you will be scattered, each to your own home. You will leave me all alone. Yet I am not alone, for my Father is with me."

Hebrews 5:7
During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.

 

[civic]

Here is some more

21. R. C. Sproul: "It was as if there was a cry from heaven - excuse my language, but I can be no more accurate than to say - it was as if Jesus heard the words 'God Damn You.' Because that's what it meant to be cursed, to be damned, to be under the anathema of the Father. As I said, I don't understand that, but I know that it's true."

R. C. Sproul, "And God Cursed Him," April 19, 2019, https://www.ligonier.org/blog/god-cursed-him/, Accessed 03 December 2019.

22. R. C. Sproul: "God is too holy to even look at iniquity. God the Father turned His back on the Son, cursing Him to the pit of hell while He hung on the cross. Here was the Son’s “descent into hell.” Here the fury of God raged against Him. His scream was the scream of the damned. For us."

R. C. Sproul, "Treasuring Redemption’s Price," September 13, 2009, https://www.ligonier.org/blog/treasuring-redemptions-price/, Accessed 30 November 2019.

contains addition quotes from other writers

Is It Biblical To Say Jesus Was Damned By God On The Cross?

1. The Holy Spirit, through the Apostle Paul: "Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us - for it is ...

christisallinall.blogspot.com

HORRIFIC to say the least- that is so disgusting. what an assault on Gods Good character. its sickening how people can believe such nonsense and false teaching.

 

[TomL]

HORRIFIC to say the least- that is so disgusting. what an assault on Gods Good character. its sickening how people can believe such nonsense and false teaching.

False doctrine leads to other false doctrine.