brightfame52
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Yes I do. I don't know why you even posting them
No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !
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Not so hidden
2 Timothy 3:15 (LEB) — 15 and that from childhood you have known the holy writings that are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
brightfame52
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Yes I have believed that for the past 40 years.
Again nonsense
Christ died
1. For all (1 Tim. 2:6; Isa. 53:6).
1 Timothy 2:6 (NASB 95) — 6 who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time.
Isaiah 53:6 (NASB 95) — 6 All of us like sheep have gone astray, Each of us has turned to his own way; But the LORD has caused the iniquity of us all To fall on Him.
You do not believe Christ is a ransom for all
2. For every man (Heb. 2:9).
Hebrews 2:9 (NASB 95) — 9 But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone.
You do not believe Christ died for everyone
3. For the world (John 3:16).
John 3:16 (NASB 95) — 16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
You do not believe God gave Christ for the world
4. For the sins of the whole world (1 John 2:2).
1 John 2:2 (NASB 95) — 2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.
You certainly do not believe Christ is the propitiation for the whole world
The whole world are all those in the power of the evil one
1 John 5:19 (NASB 95) — 19 We know that we are of God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.
brightfame52
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The Drawing provided the hearing and believing, otherwise they can't be done Jn 6 44
brightfame52
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That scripture doesn't say that the Gospel is not hidden to the lost Read 2 Cor 4:3
brightfame52
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He died for All that believe in Him.
Nope, he died for all.
1 John 2:2 (NASB 95) — 2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.
The term whole world is defined here
1 John 5:19 (NASB 95) — 19 We know that we are of God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.
Yet Christ is the propitiation for even them.
Hello
you claimed the elect unbelievers were justified
Hello
They are not believers.
It does show the holy writings are capable of making you wise to salvation through faith in Christ.
2 Timothy 3:15 (LEB) — 15 and that from childhood you have known the holy writings that are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
brightfame52
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For all that believe
brightfame52
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Yes I believe that also for decades.
Those verses do not teach election of unbelievers
you have denied Christ died for everyone
1 John 2:2 (NASB 95) — 2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.
The term whole world is defined here
1 John 5:19 (NASB 95) — 19 We know that we are of God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.
Yet Christ is the propitiation for even them.
brightfame52
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Not by the lost. 2 Cor 4:3 directly states the Gospel is hidden to the lost. Now you need to show me a scripture that says the Gospel is not hidden to the lost.
UM Some were once lost but found their way and believed
1 Cor 6:9–11Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
brightfame52
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The Gospel is hidden to them that are lost and believe not.
You left a bit off
UM Some were once lost but found their way and believed
1 Cor 6:9–11Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
such some were
brightfame52
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Where does it say The Gospel is not hidden to them that are lost?
UM some here were once lost but found their way and believed
1 Cor 6:9–11Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
such is necessary to inherit the kingdom
Col 1:26–27that is, the mystery which has been hidden from the past ages and generations, but has now been manifested to His saints, to whom God willed to make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.
Rom 16:25–26Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery which has been kept secret for long ages past, but now is manifested, and by the Scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the eternal God, has been made known to all the nations, leading to obedience of faith;
