No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

[brightfame52]

Jn 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

The word “can” is a word of ability not merely will not accept. Why doesn’t man have the ability to come to Christ? Simply because they are dead in sins. Colossians 2:13

And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

The word dead nekros :

metaph.
spiritually dead
destitute of a life that recognises and is devoted to God, because given up to trespasses and sins
inactive as respects doing right
destitute of force or power, inactive, inoperative

A spiritually dead person can only be one thing and that is dead until a resurrection occurs. 14

 

[TomL]

Jn 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

The word “can” is a word of ability not merely will not accept. Why doesn’t man have the ability to come to Christ? Simply because they are dead in sins. Colossians 2:13

And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

The word dead nekros :

metaph.
spiritually dead
destitute of a life that recognises and is devoted to God, because given up to trespasses and sins
inactive as respects doing right
destitute of force or power, inactive, inoperative

A spiritually dead person can only be one thing and that is dead until a resurrection occurs. 14

And God's drawing is through belief of his word

John 6:45 (LEB) — 45 It is written in the prophets, ‘And they will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who hears from the Father and learns comes to me.

A spiritually dead person can be made alive when he believes, not while in unbelief

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

John 3:18 The one who believes in him is not judged, but the one who does not believe has already been judged, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God.

Mark 16:16 The one who believes and is baptized will be saved, but the one who refuses to believe will be condemned.

John 8:24 Thus I said to you that you will die in your sins. For if you do not believe that I am he, you will die in your sins.”

1 John 5:12 The one who has the Son has the life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.

1 John 5:10–13 (The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself. The one who does not believe God has made him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has testified concerning his Son.) And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. The one who has the Son has the life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have the life. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, in order that you may know that you have eternal life.

 

[brightfame52]

And God's drawing is through belief of his word

Yes after they're regeneration. Drawing and regeneration are the same. A person can't believe in Christ by the word until they are regenerated or drawn. Before regeneration they are dead spiritually.

 

[TomL]

Yes after they're regeneration. Drawing and regeneration are the same. A person can't believe in Christ by the word until they are regenerated or drawn. Before regeneration they are dead spiritually.

Nope

Regeneration is life which those who do not believe can receive

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

John 3:18 The one who believes in him is not judged, but the one who does not believe has already been judged, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God.

Mark 16:16 The one who believes and is baptized will be saved, but the one who refuses to believe will be condemned.

John 8:24 Thus I said to you that you will die in your sins. For if you do not believe that I am he, you will die in your sins.”

1 John 5:12 The one who has the Son has the life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.

1 John 5:10–13 (The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself. The one who does not believe God has made him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has testified concerning his Son.) And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. The one who has the Son has the life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have the life. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, in order that you may know that you have eternal life.

 

[brightfame52]

Nope

Yes Drawing is the beginning of regeneration, No man can come to Christ, believe in or on Him except regenerated. Ive been saying this for years, drawing is a inward work first and foremost The word draw helkō means:

1. to draw, drag off
2. metaph., to draw by inward power, lead, impel

Its spiritual quickening

 

[TomL]

Yes Drawing is the beginning of regeneration, No man can come to Christ, believe in or on Him except regenerated. Ive been saying this for years, drawing is a inward work first and foremost The word draw helkō means:

1. to draw, drag off
2. metaph., to draw by inward power, lead, impel

Its spiritual quickening

You just ignored scripture again

Regeneration is life which those who do not believe can't receive

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

John 3:18 The one who believes in him is not judged, but the one who does not believe has already been judged, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God.

Mark 16:16 The one who believes and is baptized will be saved, but the one who refuses to believe will be condemned.

John 8:24 Thus I said to you that you will die in your sins. For if you do not believe that I am he, you will die in your sins.”

1 John 5:12 The one who has the Son has the life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.

1 John 5:10–13 (The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself. The one who does not believe God has made him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has testified concerning his Son.) And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. The one who has the Son has the life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have the life. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, in order that you may know that you have eternal life.

Again

Those who do not believe cannot be made alive -regenerated


BTW Drawing

James 4:8-10
Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. / Grieve, mourn, and weep. Turn your laughter to mourning, and your joy to gloom. / Humble yourselves before the Lord, and He will exalt you.

 

[brightfame52]

Regeneration is life which those who do not believe can receive

Regeneration is the life imparted to an individual Christ died for and rose again, making them alive spiritually because Christ for them has abolished death, even spiritual death. Ther regeneration is in accordance with Christs resurrection from the dead 1 Pet 1:3

3 ;Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
Blessed [gratefully praised and adored] be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant and boundless mercy has caused us to be born again [that is, to be reborn from above—spiritually transformed, renewed, and set apart for His purpose] to an ever-living hope and confident assurance through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, AMP

Douay-Rheims Bible
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to his great mercy hath regenerated us unto a lively hope, by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead

Thats why His resurrection is very important, its the regeneration of Him and His People in Him that He died for defeating death, when death for sin has been abolished, life is given as evidence, and thats the catalyst for drawing them to Christ who died for them,

Its no such thing as a unbeliever Christ died and rose for, not ever being regenerated and believe in Christ. That would be saying the resurrection of Christ never happened.

 

[TomL]

Regeneration is the life imparted to an individual Christ died for and rose again, making them alive spiritually because Christ for them has abolished death, even spiritual death. Ther regeneration is in accordance with Christs resurrection from the dead 1 Pet 1:3

You still are ignoring the fact that those who do not believe cannot receive life

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

John 3:18 The one who believes in him is not judged, but the one who does not believe has already been judged, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God.

Mark 16:16 The one who believes and is baptized will be saved, but the one who refuses to believe will be condemned.

John 8:24 Thus I said to you that you will die in your sins. For if you do not believe that I am he, you will die in your sins.”

1 John 5:12 The one who has the Son has the life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.

1 John 5:10–13 (The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself. The one who does not believe God has made him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has testified concerning his Son.) And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. The one who has the Son has the life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have the life. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, in order that you may know that you have eternal life.

So scripture refutes Calvinism’s belief that unbelievers may be given life so that they may believe

 

[brightfame52]

You still are ignoring the fact that those who do not believe cannot receive life

They can and do if Christ died for them. They are begotten again to a lively hope, hope and faith are joined at the hip 1 Pet 1:3

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

The word hope is the greek word elpis

1. expectation of evil, fear
2. expectation of good, hope
   
   1. in the Christian sense
      
      1. joyful and confident expectation of eternal salvation
3. on hope, in hope, having hope
   
   1. the author of hope, or he who is its foundation
   2. the thing hoped for

And its translated Faith in scripture Heb 10

23Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised)

And this hope is proclaimed in the Gospel Col 1:5,23

5 For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel;

23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

 

[brightfame52]

Those who do not believe cannot be made alive -regenerated

False, they can be and will be made alive from unbelief if Christ died and rose again for them. See unbelief is a symptom of being dead to God and dead in sin. Christ for the Sheep He died for, put away their sin and the penalty of their sin, so they must be given life and faith to believe.

The only unbelievers who will never be made alive and believe are the ones Christ didn't die for nor was risen for. They're under wrath and condemnation.

 

[TomL]

False, they can be and will be made alive from unbelief if Christ died and rose again for them. See unbelief is a symptom of being dead to God and dead in sin. Christ for the Sheep He died for, put away their sin and the penalty of their sin, so they must be given life and faith to believe.

The only unbelievers who will never be made alive and believe are the ones Christ didn't die for nor was risen for. They're under wrath and condemnation.

Read scripture


Those who do not believe will not see life



John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.



John 3:18 The one who believes in him is not judged, but the one who does not believe has already been judged, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God.



Mark 16:16 The one who believes and is baptized will be saved, but the one who refuses to believe will be condemned.



John 8:24 Thus I said to you that you will die in your sins. For if you do not believe that I am he, you will die in your sins.”



1 John 5:12 The one who has the Son has the life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.



1 John 5:10–13 (The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself. The one who does not believe God has made him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has testified concerning his Son.) And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. The one who has the Son has the life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have the life. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, in order that you may know that you have eternal life.



So scripture refutes Calvinism’s belief that unbelievers may be given life so that they may believe

 

[TomL]

They can and do if Christ died for them. They are begotten again to a lively hope, hope and faith are joined at the hip 1 Pet 1:3

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

The word hope is the greek word elpis

1. expectation of evil, fear
2. expectation of good, hope
   1. in the Christian sense
      1. joyful and confident expectation of eternal salvation
3. on hope, in hope, having hope
   1. the author of hope, or he who is its foundation
   2. the thing hoped for

And its translated Faith in scripture Heb 10

23Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised)

And this hope is proclaimed in the Gospel Col 1:5,23

5 For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel;

23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

You ignore scripture once again.

Those who do not believe will not see life

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

John 3:18 The one who believes in him is not judged, but the one who does not believe has already been judged, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God.

Mark 16:16 The one who believes and is baptized will be saved, but the one who refuses to believe will be condemned.

John 8:24 Thus I said to you that you will die in your sins. For if you do not believe that I am he, you will die in your sins.”

1 John 5:12 The one who has the Son has the life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.

1 John 5:10–13 (The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself. The one who does not believe God has made him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has testified concerning his Son.) And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. The one who has the Son has the life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have the life. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, in order that you may know that you have eternal life.

So scripture refutes Calvinism’s belief that unbelievers may be given life so that they may believe

 

[brightfame52]

Read scripture

I have and with understanding.

 

[brightfame52]

You ignore scripture once again.

So Faith/hope comes from the New Birth and from hearing the Gospel

 

[TomL]

So Faith/hope comes from the New Birth and from hearing the Gospel

Unbelivers are not born again

Believers however are

John 1:12–13But as many as received him—to those who believe in his name—he gave to them authority to become children of God, who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of a husband, but of God.
1 John 5:1Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been fathered by God, and everyone who loves the father also loves the child fathered by him.

Gal 3:26For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus,

 

[TomL]

So Faith/hope comes from the New Birth and from hearing the Gospel

The New Birth/receiving the Spirit is a result of faith

John 7:38–39 (LEB) — 38 the one who believes in me. Just as the scripture said, ‘Out of his belly will flow rivers of living water.’ ” 39 (Now he said this concerning the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were about to receive. For the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus had not yet been glorified.)

Acts 2:38 (LEB) — 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized, each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Galatians 3:2 (LEB) — 2 I want only to learn this from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

Galatians 3:5 (LEB) — 5 Therefore does the one who gives you the Spirit and who works miracles among you do so by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

Ephesians 1:13 (LEB) — 13 in whom also you, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also when you believed you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

Galatians 3:14 (LEB) — 14 in order that the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, so that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

 

[TomL]

I have and with understanding.

Were it true

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

John 3:18 The one who believes in him is not judged, but the one who does not believe has already been judged, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God.

Mark 16:16 The one who believes and is baptized will be saved, but the one who refuses to believe will be condemned.

John 8:24 Thus I said to you that you will die in your sins. For if you do not believe that I am he, you will die in your sins.”

1 John 5:12 The one who has the Son has the life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.

1 John 5:10–13 (The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself. The one who does not believe God has made him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has testified concerning his Son.) And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. The one who has the Son has the life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have the life. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, in order that you may know that you have eternal life.


You would see unbelievers are not given life.

 

[TomL]

Jn 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

The word “can” is a word of ability not merely will not accept. Why doesn’t man have the ability to come to Christ? Simply because they are dead in sins. Colossians 2:13


The word dead nekros :

And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

You missed this

Colossians 2:12 (LEB) — 12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which also you were raised together with him through faith in the working of God, who raised him from the dead.

 

[brightfame52]

Unbelivers are not born again

The ones Christ died and rose for are born again, drawn to Christ

 

[brightfame52]

The New Birth/receiving the Spirit is a result of faith

The New Birth is through resurrection of Christ from the dead