Judaism is very messy.....

We are not that valuable. God doesn't need us. The value in salvation is nonproportional to our worth. It is the measure of the immense Character of God.

Jesus proved we are that valuable, dear friend, look at the holes in his hands and feet for your sin.

But we must not become selfish and egocentric because of this lavish love, for sure.
 
Ahhh, I'm just trying to understand your position.

It is rare a Messianic Jew will dislike to be called Christian, although there was a little debate on it on Sobeit! YT Channel.

It is difficult to "name down" what most any Jew actually believes. You basically have two options. They are either being lead by a particular rabbi or they are a secular "mash up" of many different beliefs. Even some pagan beliefs.
 
Ahhh, I'm just trying to understand your position.

It is rare a Messianic Jew will dislike to be called Christian, although there was a little debate on it on So Be It! YT Channel.
I don't have a position. Although I am a member of the Republican Jewish ✡️ Coalition and gave generously to President Trumps election.
Shalom
 
Jesus proved we are that valuable, dear friend, look at the holes in his hands and feet for your sin.

But we must not become selfish and egocentric because of this lavish love, for sure.

I know you believe this. We have debated about this in the context of the Atonement before. This mistake is one of the reasons I reject a full teaching of PSA.

Such beliefs will establish what you just said.

Again. God doesn't need us. You're creating a "need" in the existence of God for humanity. If such existed, then there would be no full judgement of sin in damnation. For God to damn what He needs...... would destroy any sense of Immutability in God.
 
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