Jesus, The Messiah Bible Study

MatthewG

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Hello, this topic concerns the Lord Jesus Christ and him as the Messiah, if you would like to follow along and look at some of these scriptures please feel free to, also not only look at them but also check for surrounding context, for contents that are missed on what may be going on in a certain book that be quoted here.

Daneil 9:25 So you are to know and understand that from issuing of a (a) decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Messiah the Prince, there will be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; it will be built again with streets and moat, even in times of distress.

A) Dan. 9:25 - Ezra 4:24; 6:1-15 - Ezra 4:24 Then work on the house of God in Jerusalem was discontinued, and it was stopped unto the second year of the reign of Darius king of Persia.

A2) Ezra 6:1 Then King Darius issued a decree, and a (a) search was conducted in the archive, where the treasures were stored in Babylon. And in Ecbatana, in the fortress which is in a province of Media, a scroll was found; and the following was written in it: "Memorandum --- 3 Int he first year of King cyrus, Cyrus the King issued a decree: ' Concerning the house of God in Jerusalem, let the temple, the place where sacrifices are offered, be rebuilt, and let its foundations be repaired, its hight being sixty cubits and its width sixty cubits, 4 with three lays of large stones and one layer of timber. And the cost to be paid from the royal treasury. 5 Also the gold and silver utensils of the house of God, which Nebuchadnezzar took from the temple in Jerusalem and brought to Babylon, are to be returned and brought to their places in the temple in Jerusalem; and you shall put them in the house of God. 6. "Now as for you, (a) Tattenai governor of the province beyond the Euphrates River, Shethar-bozenai, and your colleagues, the officials of the provinces beyond the River, stay away from there,. Leave that work on the house of God alone; let the governor of the Jews and the elders of the Jews rebuild that house of God on its site. 8. Furthermore, I issue a decree: what you are to do for these elders of Judah in the rebuilding of that house of God: the full cost is to be paid to these people from the royal treasury out of the taxes of the provinces beyond the Euphrates River, and that without interruption. 9. And whatever is needed, bulls, rams, and lambs for burnt offerings to the God of heaven, and wheat, salt, wine, and anointing oil, as the priest in Jerusalem order, it is to be given to them daily without fail, 10 so that they may offer acceptable sacrifices to the God of heaven and pray for the lives of the king and his sons. 11 And I issued a decree that any person who violates my this decree shall be pulled out of his house and he shall be impaled on it; and his house shall be turned into a refuse heap on account of this. May the God who has caused His name to dwell there overthrow any king or people who attempts to change it, so as to destroy that house of God in Jerusalem. I, Darius, have issued this decree: it is to be carried out with all diligence. 13 Then Tattenai, the governor of the province beyond the Euphrates River, Shethar-Bozenai, and their colleagues carried out the decree with all diligence, just as King Darius had orderer. 14 And the elders of the Jews were successful in building through the prophecy of Haggai the prophet and Zechariah the son of Iddol. And they finished building following the command of the God of Israel and the decree of Cyrus, Darius, and Artaxerxes King of Persia. 15 Now this temple was completed on the third day, of the month of Adar, it was the sixth year of the reign of King Darius.

Matthew 11:2-3 Now while in prison, John heard about the words of Christ, and he sent word by his disciples, and said the disciples asked him, "Are you (a) the coming one, or are we to look for someone else?

a) Psalms 118:26, Matthew 11:10 - Psalms 118:26 Blessed is the one who comes in the name of the LORD (Yahava); We have blessed you from the house of the LORD (Yahava.)

a2) Matthew 11:10 This is the one about who it is written, "Behold I am sending My Messenger Ahead of You, Who Will Prepare Your Way Before You." Malachi 3:1 "Behold, I am sending MY messenger, and he will clear a way before Me. and I YAhava, whom you are seeking will suddenly come to his temple; and the messengers of the covenant, in whom you delight, behold He is coming," saying Yahava of armies.

Matthew 12:23 And all the crowds were amazed and were saying, "This man cannot be the Son of David, can he?

Matthew 16:16 Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, (a) the Son of (b) the Living God."

a) Matthew 4:3 And the tempter came and said to Him, and said to Him, "If you are the Son of God command that these stones become bread."

b) Psalms 42:2 My soul thirst for God, for the living God; Wehn shall I come and appear before God?

Matthew 26:63 But Jesus kept silent. And the high priest said to Him, "I place you under oath by the living God, to tell us whether you are the Christ, the Son of God.

a) Matthew 26:63-66 - 63 But Jesus kept silent. And the high priest said to Him, "I place You under oath by the living God, to tell us whether you are the Christ, the Son of God." 64 Jesus said to him, "You have said it yourself. But I tell you, from now on you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of power, and coming on the clouds of heaven." 65 Then the high priest tore his robes and said, " He has blasphemed! What further need do you have of witnesses? See, you have now heard the blasphemy; 66 What do you think? " They answered, "He deserves death!"

b) Luke 22:67-71 67 "IF you are the Christ, tell us." But he said to them, "If I tell you, you will not believe; 68 and if I ask a question, you will not answer. 69 But from now on the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the power of God. 70 And they all said, "So you are the Son of God?" And h said to them, "You say correctly that I am." 71 And they said, "What further need do we have of testimony? For we have heard it ourselves from his own mouth!"

Mark 8:29 and He continued questioning them: "But who do you say that I am ?"(a) Peter answered and said to Him, "You are the Christ."

a) John 6:68-69Simon Peter answered Him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have (a) words of eternal life. And we have already believed and have come to know that you are the holy one of God.

a2) John 6:68 - John 6:63; 12:49
John 6:63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh provides no benefit; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit, and are life.

a3) John 12:49 For I did not speak on My own, but the Father himself who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak.

Mark 14:61 But He kept silent and did not offer any answer. Against the high priest was questioning Him, and said to Him, "Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed one?

Luke 2:11 for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.

Luke 2:26 And it had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not see death before he had seen the Yahava's Christ.

Luke 4:41 Demons also were coming out of many, shouting, "You are the Son of God!" And yet He was rebuking them and would not allow them to speak because they knew that he was the Christ.

Luke 7:19 And after summoning two of his disciples, John sent them to the Lord, saying "are you the coming one, or are we to look for another?

Luke 9:20 And He said to them "But who do you say that I am?" And Peter answered and said, "The Christ of God."

Luke 22:67 "If you are the Christ, tell us." But he said to them. "If I tell you, you will not believe;

Luke 24:21 But we were hoping it was He who was going to redeem Israel. Indeed, besides all this, it is now the third day since these things happened.

Luke 24:26 (a) Was it not necessary for the Christ to suffer these things to come into His glory?

a) Luke 24:7 Then beginning with Moses and with all the Prophets, He explained to them the things written about Himself in all the scriptures.

a2) Hebrews 2:10 For it was fitting for Him for whom all things, and through whom are all things, in brining many sons to glory, to perfect the originator of their salvation through sufferings.
 
I have a vid I’d like to add to the Bible study from Luke. It very powerfully segregated the Lord Messiah from the Lord God.

Jesus is not referred to as the Lord God. The principle reason is because he is referred to as the Lord Messiah who sits at the right hand of the Lord God. Profound.
 
Something that is interesting to me, Wrangler is Luke 24:7, where beginning from Moses and with all the Prophets, He explained to them the things written about himself in all the scriptures. What an interesting thing to have been there with and heard such marvelous things. That would be all the old testament.
 
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Hello and welcome back to the subject, Jesus, the Messiah bible study,

John 1:41 He first found his own brother Simon and said to him, "We have found the (a) Messiah" (which is translated means Christ).

a)Daniel 9:25 So you are to know and understand that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince, there will be seven weeks and sixty two weeks; it will be built again, with streets and moat, even in times of distress.

a2) John 4:25 The woman said to Him, "I know that Messiah is coming ( He who is called Christ): when that One comes, He will declare all things to us.

John 4:26 Jesus said to her, "(a) I am He, the One speaking to you."

a) John 8:24 Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins.

a2) John 8:28 So Jesus said, "When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am, and I do nothing on My own, but I say these things as the Father instructed me.

a3) John 8:58 Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am. (Jesus was the Word of God, way before Abraham.)

a4) John 9:37 Jesus said to him, "You have both seen Him, and He is the one who is talking with you."

John 6:14 Therefore when the people saw the sign which he had performed, they said, "This is truly the Prophet who is to come into the world."

John 6:69 And we have already believed and have come to know that you are (a) the Holy One of God.

a) Mark 1:24 saying "What business do you have with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us before our time? I know who you are: the Holy One of God!

b) Mark 8:29 and He continued questioning them: "But who do you say that I am ?"(a) Peter answered and said to Him, "You are the Christ."

John 7:41 Others were saying,: This is the Christ." But others were saying, "Surely the Christ is not coming from Galilee, is He?

John 8:24 Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins."

John 8:28 So Jesus said, "When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am, and I do nothing on My own, but I say these things as the Father instructed me.

John 9:37 Jesus said to him, "You have both seen Him, and He is the one who is talking with you."

John 11:27 She said to Him "Yes, Lord; I have come to believe you are the Christ, the Son of God and He who come into the world."

John 13:19 From now on I am telling you before it happens, so that when it does happen, you may believe that I am here.

John 20:31 but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in his name.

Acts 2:31 he looked ahead and spoke of the resurrection of the Christ, and that he was neither abandoned to Hades, nor did His flesh suffer decay.

Acts 4:26 The Kings of the earth took their stand and the rules were gathered together against the LORD and against his Christ

Acts 9:20 and immediately he began to proclaim Jesus in the synagogues saying, "He is the Son of God."


Acts 9:22 But Saul kept increasing in strength confounding Jews who lived in Damascus by proving that this Jesus is the Christ

Acts 17:3 explains and gives evidence that the Christ had to suffer and rise from the dead, and saying "This Jesus whom I am proclaiming to you is the Christ.

Acts 18:5 But when Silas and Timothy came down from Macedonia, Paul began devoting himself completely to the word, testifying tot he Jews that Jesus was the christ.

Acts 18:28 For he powerfully refuted the Jewish in public, demonstrating by the scriptures that Jesus was the Christ.

1 John 2:22 Who is the liar except the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son.

1 John 5:1 Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves the child born of Him.
 

Luke 2:11
Complete Jewish Bible
11 This very day, in the town of David, there was born for you a Deliverer who is the Messiah, the Lord.

Luke 2:26

New Living Translation
26 and had revealed to him that he would not die until he had seen the Lord’s Messiah.


Mark 12:29-32
9Jesus answered, “The most important is: Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is Lord alone,

30and so you are to love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.i

31The second is this: Love your neighbor as yourself.j There is no other commandment greater than these.”

32And the expert in the law said to him, “Well said, teacher. You have spoken the truth that he is Lord alone, and there is no other except him
 
Something that is interesting to me, Wrangler is Luke 24:7, where beginning from Moses and with all the Prophets, He explained to them the things written about himself in all the scriptures. What an interesting thing to have been there with and heard such marvelous things. That would be all the old testament.
Cognitive Dissonance comes to mind when I imagine how the people reacted to Jesus words compared to the expectation of a military Messiah.
 
Jesus is not referred to as the Lord God. The principle reason is because he is referred to as the Lord Messiah who sits at the right hand of the Lord God. Profound.
not haven't read all the posts. ERROR, the one who sent the angel to John in the book of Revelation is called the "Lord God" who is the Lord Jesus.

101G.
 

Luke 2:11
Complete Jewish Bible
11 This very day, in the town of David, there was born for you a Deliverer who is the Messiah, the Lord.

Luke 2:26

New Living Translation
26 and had revealed to him that he would not die until he had seen the Lord’s Messiah.


Mark 12:29-32
9Jesus answered, “The most important is: Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is Lord alone,

30and so you are to love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.i

31The second is this: Love your neighbor as yourself.j There is no other commandment greater than these.”

32And the expert in the law said to him, “Well said, teacher. You have spoken the truth that he is Lord alone, and there is no other except him
this is the kind of nonsense 101G speak of. "the Lord’s Messiah?". let's put an END to this quickly. in Revelation 1:1, someone sent his angel to John with this revelation .... Right... Right. and the angel who was sent tells us who sent him. Revelation 22:6 "And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done."

without a doubt, the "Lord God" sent him.... correct, and the New Living version which I see that is used says the same thing.
New Living Translation "Then the angel said to me, Everything you have heard and seen is trustworthy and true. The Lord God, who inspires his prophets, has sent his angel to tell his servants what will happen soon.”
so, it is the "Lord God" who sent the angel. now even the JW in their New world translation have Jehovah in place of the Lord God, and they have this in PRINT. and even the Mormons say it's the God of the Old Testament Jehovah who is the Lord God. well let the bible speak as to who the "Lord God is...... if one just read Revelation 22:16 it tells us who the Lord God is that sent his angel to John. LET THE BIBLE SPEAK.

Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."

Oh my God, plain as DAY, the Lord God is "JESUS". this destroys sir Anothny theory that the Lord God is not Jesus.

this is what 101G been saying these so-called experts, scholars are more IGNORANT than any lay person in the church. someone had to be asleep at the wheel to allow something like this to slip by their eyes. right in the same book, in the same chapter only ten verses down one has the answer to who the Lord God is, "JESUS".

so again, the unitarian doctrine is exposed.

101G.
 
I disagree that the LORD GOD is Jesus, @101G.

The Lord God, is the Father, Yahweh, known also by God Almighty (but not LORD God Almighty), in the Old Testament.
The Lord God Almighty is Jesus, sitting on his father's throne, with his Father, Yahweh.

Revelation 3:21 To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne.
 
I disagree that the LORD GOD is Jesus, @101G.

The Lord God, is the Father,
you have the right to disagree, but the word of God is not changing. the LORD GOD is Jesus as well as the Lord God is Jesus in the ECHAD of God.

101G.
 
you have the right to disagree, but the word of God is not changing. the LORD GOD is Jesus as well as the Lord God is Jesus in the ECHAD of God.

101G.
Sorry, but I do find it important to whom we are suppose to worship, and to me that is the Father in heaven, the LORD GOD, Yahweh. Jesus never placed himself above his Father, and when the victory over all things had occurred, Jesus would hand everything back to his Father.

Jesus is not over his Father, however today, they are One, and that combination created the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. Which of course is only mentioned in Revelation.

Revelation 3:21 To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne.

See here, the Jesus returning to his former glory, to be able to sit with his Father. And consider below, that Jesus hands over the Kingdom of God, to his Father.


1 Corinthians 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

While you may believe what you want about these things, my understanding is that, God was in the beginning, and the Word of God was in the beginning with God, and the Holy Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the deep.


@101G, I don't care about the trinity and stuff like that I don't think it is essential to salvation and people who believe it is true, it's okay if they decide. So many people do, and it negatively effects them to hear anything that goes against that 'thought.'
 
Sorry, but I do find it important to whom we are suppose to worship, and to me that is the Father in heaven, the LORD GOD, Yahweh.
GINOLJC, to all.
that's not hard to do, which is JESUS, for he is "LORD", and "Lord" in the ECHAD of Spirit. Revelation 22:8 "And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things." Revelation 22:9 "Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God."

now Matt, here is your test, read this verse carefully. Romans 8:9 "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."

the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ are these two titles of two different persons or the same one person? your answer please. will be looking for your answer.

101G
 
GINOLJC, to all.
that's not hard to do, which is JESUS, for he is "LORD", and "Lord" in the ECHAD of Spirit. Revelation 22:8 "And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things." Revelation 22:9 "Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God."

now Matt, here is your test, read this verse carefully. Romans 8:9 "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."

the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ are these two titles of two different persons or the same one person? your answer please. will be looking for your answer.

101G
Echad.
 
yes ECHAD, or "ONE",
H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj.
1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258

101G.
 
yes ECHAD, or "ONE",
H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj.
1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258

101G.
Now look up Yachid.
 
Now look up Yachid.
I know, but the difference between the two is an absolute single one numerically of the SAME "SORT". Echad on the other hand is an absolute plurality of one in the SAME "SORT", numerically. understand?

101G
 
I know, but the difference between the two is an absolute single one numerically of the SAME "SORT". Echad on the other hand is an absolute plurality of one in the SAME "SORT", numerically. understand?

101G
Glad you acknowledge the plurality-be careful with the NUMERICALLY -I have listened to an intense debate on these two words by Brown and Singer @101G.
 
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