Jesus doesn't share God's exclusive glory

[DavidTree]

Keep telling yourself that.

Let us , who are sanctified by His Blood and His Word, continue to focus on the Center of the Throne

every TRUTH that we embrace and walk in moves us closer to the Center of Truth = God & the LAMB

in the Center of the Throne Stood a Lamb

the more we move toward the Center of Truth the more we move away from the world

the more we move away from the world, the more the world and religion hates us

We SEE this clearly when you witness to the world and it's many religions - RCC, jw, SDA and others

 

[Runningman]

Keep telling yourself that.

Jesus' temporary Lordship as messiah and temporary position at the right hand of God is sola scriptura.

1 Corinthians 15
24Then the end will come, when He hands over the kingdom to God the Father after He has destroyed all dominion, authority, and power. 25For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. 26The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27For “God has put everything under His feet.” Now when it says that everything has been put under Him, this clearly does not include the One who put everything under Him. 28And when all things have been subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will be made subject to Him who put all things under Him, so that God may be all in all.

 

[Runningman]

Where in Revelation is the FATHER called YHWH apart from the SON

Is this one of those trick questions where you get to run around waving your "YHWH isn't in the New Testament" card because there is no Hebrew-to-Greek transliteration for YHWH? Because the name isn't mentioned in the Greek, however, the name YHWH does exist in the 16th century Shem-Tov's gospel of Matthew in the Du Tillet MS variant. In places like Matthew 1:22, 2:15, and other OT quotations where the Greek Septuagint (LXX) would have Kyrios (Lord). It's proof that Jesus isn't God when the NT quotes the OT.

 

[Runningman]

i SEE what you cannot

JESUS Standing in the Center of the Throne = no angel is permitted or he would be struck down immediately

And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst/center of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders,
Stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” 11All the angels stood around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, and fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12saying:

“Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom,
Thanksgiving and honor and power and might,
Be to our God forever and ever.
Amen.”
13Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?”

14And I said to him, “Sir, you know.”

So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15Therefore they are before the throne of God, and serve Him day and night in His temple. And He who sits on the throne will dwell among them. 16They shall neither hunger anymore nor thirst anymore; the sun shall not strike them, nor any heat; 17for the Lamb who is in the midst of the throne will shepherd them and lead them to living fountains of waters. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.”

You can't change it. The Bible never says Jesus pre-existed at the right hand of God and it never says he'll stay there. Actually, the Bible explicitly states Jesus was exalted to the right hand of God, after he was born, UNTIL his enemies are made his foot stool. Begin with what the Bible says and there is a discussion to have.

 

[DavidTree]

Is this one of those trick questions where you get to run around waving your "YHWH isn't in the New Testament" card because there is no Hebrew-to-Greek transliteration for YHWH? Because the name isn't mentioned in the Greek, however, the name YHWH does exist in the 16th century Shem-Tov's gospel of Matthew in the Du Tillet MS variant. In places like Matthew 1:22, 2:15, and other OT quotations where the Greek Septuagint (LXX) would have Kyrios (Lord). It's proof that Jesus isn't God when the NT quotes the OT.

From OT to NT the Scriptures declare that the Word was God and JESUS is LORD

Currently, you are not permitted to SEE this even when we post the CLEAR scriptures that proclaim it.

 

[DavidTree]

You can't change it. The Bible never says Jesus pre-existed at the right hand of God and it never says he'll stay there. Actually, the Bible explicitly states Jesus was exalted to the right hand of God, after he was born, UNTIL his enemies are made his foot stool. Begin with what the Bible says and there is a discussion to have.

the Bible Says what you cannot SEE

10And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?”

11He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the [a]mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:

‘Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive;
15For the hearts of this people have grown dull.
Their ears are hard of hearing,
And their eyes they have closed,
Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
So that I https://biblehub.com/nkjv/matthew/13.htm#footnotesshould heal them.’

 

[Runningman]

From OT to NT the Scriptures declare that the Word was God and JESUS is LORD

Currently, you are not permitted to SEE this even when we post the CLEAR scriptures that proclaim it.

Nonsense. The OT doesn't mention anything about a pre-existent being named "the Word" and John didn't believe Jesus was God anyway. (See Acts 4:23-31)

On the matter of the Word, elsewhere John said the Word is a thing. Read 1John 1:1-3

 

[Runningman]

the Bible Says what you cannot SEE

10And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?”

11He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the [a]mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:

‘Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive;
15For the hearts of this people have grown dull.
Their ears are hard of hearing,
And their eyes they have closed,
Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
So that I https://biblehub.com/nkjv/matthew/13.htm#footnotesshould heal them.’

Jesus being at the right hand of God until his enemies are made his footstool isn't a parable. Wow, so Jesus isn't at the right hand of God in your belief system? Rather, it's just a story with a spiritual lesson?

 

[DavidTree]

Jesus being at the right hand of God until his enemies are made his footstool isn't a parable. Wow, so Jesus isn't at the right hand of God in your belief system? Rather, it's just a story with a spiritual lesson?

i never said JESUS at the Right Hand of GOD is a parable

JESUS Says: you cannot SEE and understand because it has not been given to you to SEE and understand

This is why you rely on your intellect that opposes "It is written"

Satan knows scripture and will quote scripture to you and lead you wandering in circles in scripture

Holy Spirit Says: always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth = 2 Timothy 3:7

That in and of itself should send you to your knees before the LORD Jesus Christ

 

[Runningman]

i never said JESUS at the Right Hand of GOD is a parable

JESUS Says: you cannot SEE and understand because it has not been given to you to SEE and understand

This is why you rely on your intellect that opposes "It is written"

Satan knows scripture and will quote scripture to you and lead you wandering in circles in scripture

Holy Spirit Says: always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth = 2 Timothy 3:7

That in and of itself should send you to your knees before the LORD Jesus Christ

Then don't mention Jesus speaking in parables out of the blue in a discussion about Jesus temporarily being at the right hand of God unless you want me to believe that's what you believe you think it's a parable.

 

[DavidTree]

Then don't mention Jesus speaking in parables out of the blue in a discussion about Jesus temporarily being at the right hand of God unless you want me to believe that's what you believe you think it's a parable.

the parable is for you

 

[Runningman]

the parable is for you

Maybe God put it on your heart because it was something you need to read for yourself?

 

[DavidTree]

Then don't mention Jesus speaking in parables out of the blue in a discussion about Jesus temporarily being at the right hand of God unless you want me to believe that's what you believe you think it's a parable.

Don't be left out in the dark where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth

Jesus spoke to them again, saying, “I am the light of the world.
He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.”

Run to JESUS who loves us and laid down His Life on the cross that we may be have Eternal Life.

 

[DavidTree]

Maybe God put it on your heart because it was something you need to read for yourself?

Post 93

 

[Runningman]

Don't be left out in the dark where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth

Jesus spoke to them again, saying, “I am the light of the world.
He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.”

Run to JESUS who loves us and laid down His Life on the cross that we may be have Eternal Life.

This tells me that you missed Jesus' point. Why do you suppose Jesus said the same exact thing about his disciples?

Matthew 5
14You are the light of the world.

 

[DavidTree]

This tells me that you missed Jesus' point. Why do you suppose Jesus said the same exact thing about his disciples?

Matthew 5
14You are the light of the world.

One can only be a "light to the world" if the TRUE LIGHT is within them - John 1:6-13

There came a man who was sent from God. His name was John. He came as a witness to testify about the Light, so that through him everyone might believe. He himself was not the Light, but he came to testify about the Light.

The true Light, who gives light to everyone, was coming into the world. He was in the world, and though the world was made through Him, the world did not recognize Him. He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him.
But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God— children born not of blood, nor of the desire or will of man, but born of God.

 

[DavidTree]

This tells me that you missed Jesus' point. Why do you suppose Jesus said the same exact thing about his disciples?

Matthew 5
14You are the light of the world.

You missed JESUS point, please read again my friend, for JESUS made TWO distinct points of Truth.

Truth # ONE - Jesus spoke to them again, saying, “I am the light of the world.
Truth #2 - He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.”


Truth #2 cannot be experienced unless you are in Truth Number ONE

Run to the TRUE LIGHT = LORD Jesus Christ