Jesus denied being God

[mikesw]

Compared to what the Bible says, the creeds don't match. The creeds are the heresies.

To the gnostic unitarians, true understanding of scripture is viewed as heresy. Thanks for bringing that out.

 

[charismaticlady]

there are two notable JWs. One is Kewl1 and the other is alter2ego. Several other unitarians seem to be like Christadelphians, especially based on their claims of understanding the scriptures directly. The approach becomes, in my terms, a hyperliteralist interpretation. Words are reduced to one meaning that is independent of specific contexts in which they are used.

Hmmmm. Well, I'm neither, but I prayed a few years ago that God wipe my mind of all my false doctrines I may have picked up, and realizing that God is the Author, wanted Him to teach me the one and only interpretation of each verse, His correct theology, and more insight into the eastern writing styles of the apostles which westerners do not understand. I pick up key words that open a door to more understanding. So, I too claim understanding of the scriptures directly, and it has been exciting to know what He taught me. It was literally supernatural. I've been able to hear His voice since 1977. And now a couple years ago I asked for God to open my eyes and He did immediately. That day I was able to literally see the anointing on my pastor as he gave his sermon. It was white. I then visited other churches and saw a bright blue anointing on him. It was huge. And other churches it was either blue or white. And others there was nothing at all. I think those sermons were probably plagiarized, or just human reasoning requiring no anointing of the Spirit.

 

[mikesw]

Hmmmm. Well, I'm neither, but I prayed a few years ago that God wipe my mind of all my false doctrines I may have picked up, and realizing that God is the Author, wanted Him to teach me the one and only interpretation of each verse, His correct theology, and more insight into the eastern writing styles of the apostles which westerners do not understand. I pick up key words that open a door to more understanding. So, I too claim understanding of the scriptures directly, and it has been exciting to know what He taught me. It was literally supernatural. I've been able to hear His voice since 1977. And now a couple years ago I asked for God to open my eyes and He did immediately. That day I was able to literally see the anointing on my pastor as he gave his sermon. It was white. I then visited other churches and saw a bright blue anointing on him. It was huge. And other churches it was either blue or white. And others there was nothing at all. I think those sermons were probably plagiarized, or just human reasoning requiring no anointing of the Spirit.

I suggest caution in such experience that is not conventional in scripture. Also, the grasping of "correct theology" must be done humbly and with confirmation of others. We see in this thread where people are sure of their unitarian beliefs but are not able to convince others of it. That is a sign of a need for caution and humility.

 

[Peterlag]

The Trinitarian would be right. But you don't believe Jesus is God. You told me this was all about God's "blessings" based on part of one verse that spoke of Jesus being He, the Christ. Runningman made a better argument, but didn't prove that Jesus was not God, and I used the same chapter he did and proved that Jesus existed before the foundation of the world and was with the Father. Jesus was part of Elohim, the plural name of God. There is only one God, and He is a triune being with Jesus and the Father and the Spirit all being a part of one God. Therefore, the Father is God. The Son is God. And the Spirit is God. They are all part of One God.

This is why when the disciples asked Jesus to just show them the Father, and Jesus said, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me?

Show me where I said something about a blessing.