I'm sorry. I keep seeing the same stupid statement that there is no other God. The unitarians use the same argument. However, Christians hold to the Trinitarian doctrine knowing that Jesus is not a separate God. God exists in a triune form. There would not be a Trinitarian doctrine except for the fact that Jesus has the same divine attributes as the Father.
Jesus Christ is the wisdom and creation of God
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You will find out my words are truth.
DavidTree
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Only the words of Christ are Truth
If you do not find His words to be Truth, today before your die, you will die in your sins.
I do not expect your words contrary to scripture to be truthful. You already misstated christian doctrine.
Like his words at Matt 5:5 where he assures the great crowd of Rev 7:9 they will inherit the Earth and not go to heaven as the blind guides tell all they are going there? Truth like that of the above are you speaking of?
Never would i do so. Its your translations that are altered, its 100% proven fact.
DavidTree
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These words of Christ
The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.” - John 10:33
Then Jesus said to them again, “I am going away, and you will seek Me, and will die in your sin. Where I go you cannot come.”
So the Jews said, “Will He kill Himself, because He says, ‘Where I go you cannot come’?”
And He said to them, “You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.
Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.” - John ch8
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* This is an example of the word of God being handled deceitfully. For wisdom is personified in Proverbs 8: and the fulness of the godhead bodily dwells in the Lord (Col. 2:9), so of course He is the wisdom of God, being the sum of all that God is.
'... if thine eye be evil,
thy whole body shall be full of darkness.
If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness,
how great is that darkness!'
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'For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts,
we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing
of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Who gave Himself for us,
that He might redeem us from all iniquity,
and purify unto Himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority.
Let no man despise thee.'
(Tit 2:11-15)
Praise His Holy Name!
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts,
we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing
of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Who gave Himself for us,
that He might redeem us from all iniquity,
and purify unto Himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority.
Let no man despise thee.'
(Tit 2:11-15)
Praise His Holy Name!
Runningman
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How could Jesus increase in wisdom if he is God?
Luke 2
52And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.
DavidTree
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5Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,
7but made Himself of no reputation,
taking the form of a bondservent/slave
and coming in the likeness of men.
And being found in appearance as a man,
He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.
9Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, 10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Runningman
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You have just provided a powerful argument against the deity of Jesus. You have described Jesus as a man whom the church can emulate.
1. We can have the mind of Jesus, but not the mind of God
2. We cannot be equal to God and Jesus can't either
3. Jesus is a man like us
4. Jesus died like us
5. Jesus was exalted
6. The only one who gets the glory is the Father.
7. Did I miss anything?
DavidTree
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The liars with hate filled hearts said that and you believe them as all the mislead back then did as well and they were destroyed in 70ce.
DavidTree
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Keiw = you are the one throwing stones at JESUS
Tothalordbeallglory
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Not a good place to be either . no man wants to be in those shoes .
Regulators MOUNT UP , To the trenches and let all that has breath both praise and thank the glorious LORD .
Not likely
DavidTree
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Tothalordbeallglory
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And this was why paul , who by the Spirit had written and told the church .
LET GOD be true but every man a liar . When a man calleth GOD a liar , HE has made himself HIS OWN GOD
now that might surpise some , but ponder on it my friend .
If its our way and not HIS WAY , we make our own selves our own god .
Let GOD be TRUE but every man a liar
that you may be JUSTIFIED in your sayings , CAUSE HIS WORDS are OUR SAYINGS
and that Ye might overcome when thou art judged .
For on the day of judgment all who denied THE VERY WORD OF GOD , DID DENY GOD
and if a man denies His words , guess who they deny , THE BRINGER OF SAID WORDS .
This gen is in the upmost thralls
of a mad and very passionate love
ITS JUST NOT WITH GOD OR HIS LOVE
its with he who has come in his own name and its love . not looking good at all . not at all .
And people think men like me are the haters . pretty sad days indeed my friend .
But the SHEEP MARCH ON IN CHRIST no matter the cost . no matter the cost .
Tothalordbeallglory
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LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar .
