That's not the only part of the Bible.
Thanks for making it easy for me in post 315.
Love it!
Jesus Christ is the wisdom and creation of God
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That's not the only part of the Bible.
Thanks for making it easy for me in post 315.
Love it!
Runningman
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Jesus is a servent, not the Sovereign Lord in Acts 4. Easy.
DavidTree
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God's Bible is the WORD that was God from the beginning.
Post 315 is still there.
God=1=sent his son=another=not God was sent.
Runningman
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More proof that Jesus is not God. Wisdom is created and Jesus had to learn wisdom. He isn't omniscient.
Luke 2
52And Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man.
DavidTree
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WOW
The HOLY SPIRIT is the One who builds my confidence in the WORD that was God = Whom all the angels worship!!!
DavidTree
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WOW = What Great TRUTHJude 4
For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a licence for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.
Bible Gateway passage: Jude 3-5 - New International Version - UK
The sin and doom of ungodly people - Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people. For certain individuals whose condemnation was written...www.biblegateway.com
Thanks for making that easy for me.
Thank You Fred
Runningman
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The Holy Spirit absolutely is not guiding you. You're being guided by your handlers from you church. Read John 1 again.
The Lamb of God is a man:
John 1
29The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 30This is He of whom I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because He was before me.’ 31I myself did not know Him, but the reason I came baptizing with water was that He might be revealed to Israel.”
YHWH is not the Lamb of God:
Revelation 21
22But I saw no temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.
DavidTree
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WOW
You seem to either forget Scripture or your stuck in the Egyptian whirlpool of Denial.
In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God
HE was in the beginning with God
All things were made thru HIM
Runningman
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In John 1:1, the Word is not The God. One is God and the other isn't, hence John 1:3 is about The God the Word was with being the Creator, not the Word being the Creator. No one ever said the Word is the Creator anywhere in the Bible.
DavidTree
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Do you eat mushrooms from the wild?
When was the last time you read John chapter 1 without hallucinating???
Runningman
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"He was with God" = The Word was with The God
"Through Him all things were made" = The last mentioned God is the God the Word was with. The He who made all things is not the Word.
John 1
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made.
FreeInChrist
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"No one ever said the Word is the Creator anywhere in the Bible". Really. Keep reading if you can.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
What freaking God was the Word with?
1:3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.
Him who???????????? came into being with modeling clay, and tinker toys and silly putty for things that fly?
I suggest you get away from John unless your name is Dick and Jane can explain it to you.
Please answer the questions in red.
Fast forward to Colossians 1:
1. Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, Do YOU have any idea who these people are?
2. To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ who are at Colossae: Grace to you and peace from God our Father.
Do you disagree this mention is if Jesus Christ, our savior? And do you agree that this is The God?
3. We give thanks to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you, The God and your savior?
4. since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and the love which you have for all the saints; Do you doubt who this is?
5. because of the hope laid up for you in heaven, of which you previously heard in the word of truth, the gospel
6. which has come to you, just as in all the world also it is constantly bearing fruit and increasing, even as it has been doing in you also since the day you heard of it and understood the grace of God in truth; Which God is this one?
7 just as you learned it from Epaphras, our beloved fellow bond-servant, who is a faithful servant of Christ on our behalf, Quick
is this our savior or is it the other Jesus?
8. and he also informed us of your love in the Spirit.
9. For this reason also, since the day we heard of it, we have not ceased to pray for you and to ask that you may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, Who is His?
10. so that you will walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, to please Him in all respects, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God; Is the Lord, Jesus? Is Him talking of the Lord Jesus? And is the God mentioned THE GOD?
11. strengthened with all power, according to His glorious might, for the attaining of all steadfastness and patience; joyously
Is His referring to Jesus or The God?
12. giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified us to share in the inheritance of the saints in Light. The Father is The God, right? Right?
13.For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son, Is this Jesus and The God?
14. in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
15, He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. Careful as this is tricky. He is God's beloved Son, right? He is the image of the invisible God, His Father right? He is the first born........ right or wrong?
Now pay very, very, very close attention to the following.
16. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities— all things have been created through Him and for Him. This Christ Jesus, who is
The God's Son..... is the creator.
Even you cannot possibly misunderstand this can you?
One last word from John 1:14
14And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.
The Word became Flesh, and the Flesh's name was Jesus.
Therefore these verses are your proof it was said countering your ..... No one ever said the Word is the Creator anywhere in the Bible.
I am sure you just scanned the above, and will not answer my questions.
Possibly because you only got to 8th grade and have not refined your capabilities to understand that the 66 books and primarily, for these purposes work together.
Different [people say different things. That is why they are not carbon copies of each other.... but they do not counter each other either.... The Word became Flesh and the Flesh was named Jesus...therefore the Word can be none other then the creator.
Read it and weep. The proof is right here.
Its proven fact-a god to the Word at John 1:1
DavidTree
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It is a proven fact that the NWT bible is Apostate = John 1:1 "the Word was a god"
To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no Light/Truth in them.
The Law Says: "You shall have no other gods before ME" - Deut 5:6-7
The Testimony Says: This is what the LORD says—Israel’s King and Redeemer, the LORD of Heaven’s Armies: “I am the First and the Last; there is no other God but Me.
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Selah
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Not good, sis. And you used a big G when you spelled God; you probably were alluding to a god (little g), so essentially, you used a very disrespectful adjective to describe Almighty God. We must treat the words of God reverently. Remember, He is Holy.
Let’s never grieve the Holy Spirit.
s e l a h
DavidTree
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How many times is "Word" spoken in John 1:1
Yes no other God than YHVH(Jehovah) not Yeshua as you are told is God. You cant have it both ways. I showed you what the second line reads if the Word is God= And God was with God= impossible, there is one God=The Father( 1 Cor 8:6) these truths cannot be denied yet the darkness denies them daily=sad.
DavidTree
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How many times is "Word" spoken in John 1:1
