Is anyone else a Seer?

I'm going to read 1 Peter tonight and find those verses to add to my list when I talk to pastors, to prove to them they need to teach what you and I know, and that the Bible clearly teaches when read in context.
I believe the wrong belief many Christians have is that we become sinners again whenever we fail and this is why we live our lives with insecurity and condemnation. Sometimes we think we are righteous and then at other times we think we are sinners. We wrongly believe our righteousness is dependent on how we perform that day and that leads to a very severe identity crisis. I'm writing to people who are genuinely looking for a way out of their fears, guilt and bondage. We are saved and made righteous by grace, but we still make mistakes, fail, and are tempted, and yet our righteousness is not a result of our right doing, but rather a result of our standing in Christ.

The Greek word hamartano, is used for all of the 11 following verses that have the word "sin" in it. Translated into English as "sin" which means to miss, failure, aberration from prescribed law or duty. Thus, considered not as an action, [as the Catholics taught us, who are the ones who defined the definition for us 1600 years ago] but as the quality of action, the evil principle from the actual transgression. If a canal by which water flows down to a place is considered pure. And then an influence comes into the water that has the idea of muddying the water. Then it's the defiling influence, the disturbance that has flowed upon the creation of God.

There is no mud in what God created in Christ Jesus that was placed inside of our new nature. None. Thus, it's impossible for me to bring this mud forward when I'm in Christ. So let's begin by looking at these 11 verses and keep in mind they do seem to be speaking about our time right now and not for some time into the future. We see this with statements like "For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law." Well, I'm not under the law right now. Or "We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not." I'm born of God right now. Or "being made free from sin, and become servants to God." I'm a servant to God right now.

Romans 6
How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

For he that is dead is freed from sin.

he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin,

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law,

Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

being made free from sin, and become servants to God,

1 John 3 & 5
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin, for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not.


We read in the book of Matthew that Jesus shall save his people from their sins. The problem I have had with this begins in Romans where it states we don't have sin anymore and yet everyone seems to agree that we all fall short. Today I woke up with an idea of starting at the beginning which is where any good building starts when we need to have a solid foundation. So let's consider Adam and Eve who were created to have the spirit of God. A dog was created to function without the spirit of God and so dogs are normal in the way they function. But humans are missing something and therefore not complete if we do not function with the spirit of God. It would be considered broken if it were a car that was missing a part because it would be incomplete since it would be missing a necessary part. It had to be the spirit that Adam and Eve gave up that caused them to be broken, to have missed the mark, and to deliberately do such a thing was considered sin. Well, we know it was not an apple.

If I'm correct on how I'm looking at this then it makes sense that blasphemy against God would be an unforgivable sin because to do so would be to keep ourselves broken and therefore unable to have the spirit of life. The book of Matthew states Jesus had the ability to forgive sins. In the book of John, we see "the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world." We will continue to stay broken if we refuse the spirit and this is why Jesus told them they will die in their sins because they cannot go where he is going to go. The Lord said "If you were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth." In other words, if we did not know we were broken. Then we did not know we were missing a part and so it's not our fault. But if we say yeah, we know we are not broken. Then there lies the acknowledged sin.

This reminds me of 1 John where it is written if we acknowledge or confess our sin is one thing. But we lie if we say we don't have any sin. It seems to be the same concept in both John and 1 John. I'm just looking at the way sin is used in the gospels and in doing so it seems clear that Jesus had the ability to forgive sin. We still have sin if we don't get this forgiveness from him and that's what is being said in the book of Matthew and John. And if we don't know we have sin because we are challenged to the degree of being impaired, disabled or blind to it in some way is how we would be exempt from it. Understand?

The New Testament epistles have words like "remission of sins" and "sins may be blotted out" and "the forgiveness of sins" and "wash away thy sins" and "whose sins are covered" and "impute sin" and "are dead to sin" and "condemned sin in the flesh" and "take away their sins" and "Christ died for our sins" and "purged our sins..." The book of Romans begins talking about Jews and Gentiles being both under sin and this should not be anything new to us since both are still broken without the spirit of God. And yet for some mysterious reason I live on a planet where many Christians think their flesh is justified by the deeds of the law even after the book of Romans tells us plainly that everyone except the Christian is under sin (Romans 3:20 says Jews and Gentiles).

Romans tell us "sin is not imputed when there is no law" and "that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin." And then there's verse 7 with "For he that is dead is freed from sin." I never understood Romans 6 because I was taught that I was a sinner saved by grace. Let's look at what Romans is saying: Christ died unto sin once and now he lives unto God. How are we who are still alive going to be able to likewise reckon ourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God? It seems to me it must be done through Jesus Christ our Lord. It's not about us or our broken selves. It's him we must function in. Here's the verse "Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord."

It appears both Catholic and Protestant churches do not teach that "sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace." Nor do they teach "For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness." And so "Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness." I'm going to skip over Romans 7 because it tells us right up at the top of the chapter that Paul is talking to those who are into or know the law. And then the context of the whole chapter is how we can see it's all about Israel and their Law and how they toy with their flesh.

What Paul talks about in the seventh chapter of Romans is what occurs to the believer who still thinks the Law applies to them. They end up spiritually dying by the commandment and realize that the commandment does not produce life. The war is with their flesh because they are still believing the Law has power over them. In the eighth chapter of Romans is where it explains how we overcome this whole issue by living in the spirit and being dead to the Law. We cannot live by faith in what Christ has done for us and still think our obedience to written laws are necessary. To do so takes away from the perfect work of Christ and places salvation and righteousness back in our own hands. Romans 8 states "the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin..."

The verse in 2 Corinthians 5:21, is talking about the "righteousness of God in him." It's the "in him" that nobody seems to be able to understand. This whole thing functions "in him." It's in Christ and therefore in the new nature that is mentioned just a few verses above this in verse 17 where it says "new creature:" It's not that we do not sin in our old man nature. It's that we do not sin in the new man that we are told to put on. The churches have destroyed this idea by teaching we put on the new man by following the teachings of Jesus as we walk in our flesh. So this is a lost art.

In the book of Colossians, we read "putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:" We did not put it off. It was the circumcision of Christ. Two verses later we read "together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;..." Again, it's "in him" or "with him." I also want to get the book of Hebrews in here where we see Christ offered himself once "for this he did once" and not like the high priest who offered up the sacrifice daily. The Lord Christ "after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;..."

Peter has the same mindset as Paul when he writes in 1 Peter "that we, being dead to sins,..." Peter goes on to say that Christ suffered once for sins so as to bring us to God, and so this is why the Scripture reads "being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:" Again, the old man crucified and the new man put in its place. Peter again, "ceased from sin;..." Put that mindset on or as Peter writes "arm yourself likewise with the same mind:" Because he that has suffered in the flesh or was crucified in the flesh has put on the new man because the other one is dead. That new person "hath ceased from sin;..."

A belief system called Gnosticism was taking root in Christianity at the time the book of John was being written that taught there was a supreme and unknowable Being, which they designated as the "Monad." The Monad produced various gods, who in turn produced other gods, and one of these gods called the "Demiurge" created the earth and then ruled over it as an angry, evil and jealous god. Gnostics believe this evil god was the god of the Old Testament who is called "Elohim" and so the Monad had to send another god known as the "Christ" to bring special knowledge to mankind and free them from the influence of the evil Elohim. And this is why the gnostics do not seek salvation from repenting of their sin (but rather from the ignorance of which sin is a consequence) that they believe the evil creator God and his angels caused. They emphasize salvation of select humans from bodily existence through their awakening to the knowledge of their original divine identity. I believe the Apostle John had them on his mind when he wrote the Epistle of 1 John saying you must realize you have sin and repent. John was not talking to the already saved Christian as the Catholics would like you to believe.

I see this 1 John chapter 1 and 2 as we are either walking in our old dead nature if we are into sin. Or we are walking in the spirit if we are not into sin.

Chapter 1
6 "If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:"
6. Not in him because we are either not saved or have not put on the new man.

7 "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin."
7. In him because we are saved and have put on the new man.

8 "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."
8. Not in him because we are either not saved or have not put on the new man.

9 "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
9. In him because we are saved and have put on the new man.

10 "If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."
10. Not in him because we are either not saved or have not put on the new man.

Chapter 2
1 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:"
1. Not in him because we are either not saved or have not put on the new man.

2 "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."
2. Not in him because we are either not saved or have not put on the new man.

3 "And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments."
3. In him because we are saved and have put on the new man.

4 "He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him."
4. Not in him because we are either not saved or have not put on the new man.

5 "But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him."
5. In him because we are saved and have put on the new man.

6 "He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked."
6. In him because we are saved and have put on the new man.

The last verse I'm going to mention has "in him" again. From 1 John we read "that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin." We cannot sin in him because there's no sin in him and this is why "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."
 
I don't see any blue lights and don't know anyone who has. Last time I mentioned this on another site the management deleted me from posting. The last time I went to a church to see what it would be like they walked me out the door.
It was prophesied to me back in 2001 that my eyes would be opened by the Spirit of God. You can read the OP for more.

Its in the Bible. 1 Corinthians 2:9-16

The "natural" eye, of course, cannot see or hear God.
 
I believe the wrong belief many Christians have is that we become sinners again whenever we fail and this is why we live our lives with insecurity and condemnation. Sometimes we think we are righteous and then at other times we think we are sinners. We wrongly believe our righteousness is dependent on how we perform that day and that leads to a very severe identity crisis. I'm writing to people who are genuinely looking for a way out of their fears, guilt and bondage. We are saved and made righteous by grace, but we still make mistakes, fail, and are tempted, and yet our righteousness is not a result of our right doing, but rather a result of our standing in Christ.

The Greek word hamartano, is used for all of the 11 following verses that have the word "sin" in it. Translated into English as "sin" which means to miss, failure, aberration from prescribed law or duty. Thus, considered not as an action, [as the Catholics taught us, who are the ones who defined the definition for us 1600 years ago] but as the quality of action, the evil principle from the actual transgression. If a canal by which water flows down to a place is considered pure. And then an influence comes into the water that has the idea of muddying the water. Then it's the defiling influence, the disturbance that has flowed upon the creation of God.

There is no mud in what God created in Christ Jesus that was placed inside of our new nature. None. Thus, it's impossible for me to bring this mud forward when I'm in Christ. So let's begin by looking at these 11 verses and keep in mind they do seem to be speaking about our time right now and not for some time into the future. We see this with statements like "For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law." Well, I'm not under the law right now. Or "We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not." I'm born of God right now. Or "being made free from sin, and become servants to God." I'm a servant to God right now.


Romans 6
How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

For he that is dead is freed from sin.

he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin,

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law,

Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

being made free from sin, and become servants to God,

1 John 3 & 5
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin, for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not.


We read in the book of Matthew that Jesus shall save his people from their sins. The problem I have had with this begins in Romans where it states we don't have sin anymore and yet everyone seems to agree that we all fall short. Today I woke up with an idea of starting at the beginning which is where any good building starts when we need to have a solid foundation. So let's consider Adam and Eve who were created to have the spirit of God. A dog was created to function without the spirit of God and so dogs are normal in the way they function. But humans are missing something and therefore not complete if we do not function with the spirit of God. It would be considered broken if it were a car that was missing a part because it would be incomplete since it would be missing a necessary part. It had to be the spirit that Adam and Eve gave up that caused them to be broken, to have missed the mark, and to deliberately do such a thing was considered sin. Well, we know it was not an apple.

If I'm correct on how I'm looking at this then it makes sense that blasphemy against God would be an unforgivable sin because to do so would be to keep ourselves broken and therefore unable to have the spirit of life. The book of Matthew states Jesus had the ability to forgive sins. In the book of John, we see "the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world." We will continue to stay broken if we refuse the spirit and this is why Jesus told them they will die in their sins because they cannot go where he is going to go. The Lord said "If you were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth." In other words, if we did not know we were broken. Then we did not know we were missing a part and so it's not our fault. But if we say yeah, we know we are not broken. Then there lies the acknowledged sin.

This reminds me of 1 John where it is written if we acknowledge or confess our sin is one thing. But we lie if we say we don't have any sin. It seems to be the same concept in both John and 1 John. I'm just looking at the way sin is used in the gospels and in doing so it seems clear that Jesus had the ability to forgive sin. We still have sin if we don't get this forgiveness from him and that's what is being said in the book of Matthew and John. And if we don't know we have sin because we are challenged to the degree of being impaired, disabled or blind to it in some way is how we would be exempt from it. Understand?

The New Testament epistles have words like "remission of sins" and "sins may be blotted out" and "the forgiveness of sins" and "wash away thy sins" and "whose sins are covered" and "impute sin" and "are dead to sin" and "condemned sin in the flesh" and "take away their sins" and "Christ died for our sins" and "purged our sins..." The book of Romans begins talking about Jews and Gentiles being both under sin and this should not be anything new to us since both are still broken without the spirit of God. And yet for some mysterious reason I live on a planet where many Christians think their flesh is justified by the deeds of the law even after the book of Romans tells us plainly that everyone except the Christian is under sin (Romans 3:20 says Jews and Gentiles).

Romans tell us "sin is not imputed when there is no law" and "that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin." And then there's verse 7 with "For he that is dead is freed from sin." I never understood Romans 6 because I was taught that I was a sinner saved by grace. Let's look at what Romans is saying: Christ died unto sin once and now he lives unto God. How are we who are still alive going to be able to likewise reckon ourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God? It seems to me it must be done through Jesus Christ our Lord. It's not about us or our broken selves. It's him we must function in. Here's the verse "Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord."

It appears both Catholic and Protestant churches do not teach that "sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace." Nor do they teach "For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness." And so "Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness." I'm going to skip over Romans 7 because it tells us right up at the top of the chapter that Paul is talking to those who are into or know the law. And then the context of the whole chapter is how we can see it's all about Israel and their Law and how they toy with their flesh.

What Paul talks about in the seventh chapter of Romans is what occurs to the believer who still thinks the Law applies to them. They end up spiritually dying by the commandment and realize that the commandment does not produce life. The war is with their flesh because they are still believing the Law has power over them. In the eighth chapter of Romans is where it explains how we overcome this whole issue by living in the spirit and being dead to the Law. We cannot live by faith in what Christ has done for us and still think our obedience to written laws are necessary. To do so takes away from the perfect work of Christ and places salvation and righteousness back in our own hands. Romans 8 states "the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin..."

The verse in 2 Corinthians 5:21, is talking about the "righteousness of God in him." It's the "in him" that nobody seems to be able to understand. This whole thing functions "in him." It's in Christ and therefore in the new nature that is mentioned just a few verses above this in verse 17 where it says "new creature:" It's not that we do not sin in our old man nature. It's that we do not sin in the new man that we are told to put on. The churches have destroyed this idea by teaching we put on the new man by following the teachings of Jesus as we walk in our flesh. So this is a lost art.

In the book of Colossians, we read "putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:" We did not put it off. It was the circumcision of Christ. Two verses later we read "together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;..." Again, it's "in him" or "with him." I also want to get the book of Hebrews in here where we see Christ offered himself once "for this he did once" and not like the high priest who offered up the sacrifice daily. The Lord Christ "after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;..."

Peter has the same mindset as Paul when he writes in 1 Peter "that we, being dead to sins,..." Peter goes on to say that Christ suffered once for sins so as to bring us to God, and so this is why the Scripture reads "being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:" Again, the old man crucified and the new man put in its place. Peter again, "ceased from sin;..." Put that mindset on or as Peter writes "arm yourself likewise with the same mind:" Because he that has suffered in the flesh or was crucified in the flesh has put on the new man because the other one is dead. That new person "hath ceased from sin;..."

A belief system called Gnosticism was taking root in Christianity at the time the book of John was being written that taught there was a supreme and unknowable Being, which they designated as the "Monad." The Monad produced various gods, who in turn produced other gods, and one of these gods called the "Demiurge" created the earth and then ruled over it as an angry, evil and jealous god. Gnostics believe this evil god was the god of the Old Testament who is called "Elohim" and so the Monad had to send another god known as the "Christ" to bring special knowledge to mankind and free them from the influence of the evil Elohim. And this is why the gnostics do not seek salvation from repenting of their sin (but rather from the ignorance of which sin is a consequence) that they believe the evil creator God and his angels caused. They emphasize salvation of select humans from bodily existence through their awakening to the knowledge of their original divine identity. I believe the Apostle John had them on his mind when he wrote the Epistle of 1 John saying you must realize you have sin and repent. John was not talking to the already saved Christian as the Catholics would like you to believe.

I see this 1 John chapter 1 and 2 as we are either walking in our old dead nature if we are into sin. Or we are walking in the spirit if we are not into sin.

Chapter 1
6 "If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:"
6. Not in him because we are either not saved or have not put on the new man.

7 "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin."
7. In him because we are saved and have put on the new man.

8 "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."
8. Not in him because we are either not saved or have not put on the new man.

9 "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
9. In him because we are saved and have put on the new man.

10 "If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."
10. Not in him because we are either not saved or have not put on the new man.

Chapter 2
1 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:"
1. Not in him because we are either not saved or have not put on the new man.

2 "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."
2. Not in him because we are either not saved or have not put on the new man.

3 "And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments."
3. In him because we are saved and have put on the new man.

4 "He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him."
4. Not in him because we are either not saved or have not put on the new man.

5 "But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him."
5. In him because we are saved and have put on the new man.

6 "He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked."
6. In him because we are saved and have put on the new man.

The last verse I'm going to mention has "in him" again. From 1 John we read "that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin." We cannot sin in him because there's no sin in him and this is why "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."
Fine piece of work and I agree. I'll add some more for you to digest. I call these God's double blessing gospel faiths.

Romans 1:16-17
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith.”

All we have to do is abide in Christ and let Him do it all. Hebrews 12:2 "looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith

Revelation 22:11b he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still.” These are the two faiths of the gospel of Romans 1:16-17 above.

RIGHTEOUS:

The chapter, 1 John 3 is about sins unto death - lawlessness - verse 4. These sins against the commandments of God are the first type of sin Jesus takes away and were what the sin nature was all about. We are clean. Keeping the laws of God are what our new nature does naturally making us a slave of righteousness/sinlessness.

HOLINESS:
Holiness is an upgrade and is associated with the lifelong process we go through with the Spirit called "glorification" not "sanctification". It involves the second type of sin, sin not unto death, the maturing of the fruit of the Spirit. See John 15:1-4 “I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already clean (righteous) because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.

Peter shows us the steps in the lifelong process, but shows it can be achieved in our lifetime. Never stumbling is holiness/perfection. You can easily see that these weaknesses are not sins unto death, but sins not unto death, see 1 John 5:16-17 if you want to see there are two types.

2 Peter 1:5-11
5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. 8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins. 10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble; 11 for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

These are also the type of sin that 1 John 1:7 cleanses. NOT sins unto death. 1 John 3:9 - you cannot commit murder once born again.

7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.

This is not sinless perfection that some teach against, but rather sinlessness, THEN perfection.

We also see in Romans 6 that it is talking about sins unto death that we are freed from, seeing as "the wages of sin is DEATH."
 
I am not with a church, nor have I ever been a member of a church or any denomination.
Another reason to discount every thing you say. In Hebrews 10:24-25, it says "and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds, not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near."
That doesn't mean that we must officially become a church member or a devotee of a certain denomination. It simply means that we must regularly meet with other born again believers, stimulating each other to love and good deeds. But if you don't do that, or even to desire to do that, then why should anyone listen to you?
It's no surprise that that church walked you out the door. We are told that "factions" is a work of the flesh. The word can also mean "heresies", which is, of course, what people of your persuasion are propagating.
 
I have - three! I go to different churches now just to see with this new seer gift God gave me if their sermons are anointed or not. Last week I went to a Pentecostal church (one of my favorites as I also have all but two of the gifts of the Spirit and they show the largest anointings) and this substitute pastor had a smallest blue halo around his head that I've seen there, but as soon as he started speading up his talking and acting Pentecostal, the anointing ceased and didn't return until he stopped acting in the flesh. Interesting.

None of the churches I've visited believe we are dead to sin. :(
Of course you would go to a church to do that. You wouldn't want to learn anything, since you already have all the correct interpretations of the Bible.
 
Another reason to discount every thing you say. In Hebrews 10:24-25, it says "and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds, not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near."
That doesn't mean that we must officially become a church member or a devotee of a certain denomination. It simply means that we must regularly meet with other born again believers, stimulating each other to love and good deeds. But if you don't do that, or even to desire to do that, then why should anyone listen to you?
It's no surprise that that church walked you out the door. We are told that "factions" is a work of the flesh. The word can also mean "heresies", which is, of course, what people of your persuasion are propagating.
I have hundreds of people on my websites every single month reading my data for more than an hour every month. People from all over the world. How about you?
 
sin nature is the nature all around us now..

this world is foreign land...
and includes this flesh body,
this earth, this sky ,
all not made by God...

a humble soul of Him
can return to Him and can be in Him
rather than decorate this earthly
prison cell
 
I have - three! I go to different churches now just to see with this new seer gift God gave me if their sermons are anointed or not. Last week I went to a Pentecostal church (one of my favorites as I also have all but two of the gifts of the Spirit and they show the largest anointings) and this substitute pastor had a smallest blue halo around his head that I've seen there, but as soon as he started speading up his talking and acting Pentecostal, the anointing ceased and didn't return until he stopped acting in the flesh. Interesting.

None of the churches I've visited believe we are dead to sin. :(

that blue halo sounds bad.
 
Did you learn that in some Church and you didn't check it out to see the CONTEXT? Run from that denomination, fast. They have not studied the eastern writing styles of the Apostles and preach ignorantly.
Greetings again charismaticlady,

No, I come from a non-religious background. I'm a non-denominational Christian.
I agree, it's wise to always study scripture in its context b/c cherry picking is what leads to doctrines of devils.

I believe the Word of God alone is our final authority in all matters. It's all we need for our faith, & walk in Christ. No where did the apostles ever demonstrate a need for studying anything outside of scripture to know, & preach the true Word of God.

Romans 7:
5 For when we were in the flesh (past tense), the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. 6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law.

CONTEXT, CONTEXT, CONTEXT!!!

Paul is talking about the Law of Moses, the Ten Commandment. Then he goes on to show what it was like being under the Law of Moses - 14-25, and verse 24 who saved us from sin, JESUS CHRIST! Then keep reading chapter 8.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free (still using a personal present pronoun if the word "I" tripped you up, which is our western interpretation of the eastern writing (common) from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

Paul is saying that the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus freed him from Romans 7:14-25!!!
The apostle Paul tells us that once saved, sin no longer has dominion (power) over us. We're no longer under the law, but under grace. The Christian life is a daily journey of transformation, not instant perfection. Sanctification is the process of being made holy or set apart for a special purpose. However, to say a Christian no longer has the ability to sin is entirely inaccurate.

Let's take the church in Corinth as one such example...


And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
1 Corinthians 3:1-3

Babes in Christ are still carnal, & can still walk as men. They need to mature spiritually. Sadly, there will be Christians who remain carnal all their lives living in sin. As one example, look at how many Christians who fall into an addiction of some sort. This is what Paul means by saying the flesh wars w/ the spirit.

The church in Corinth was considered carnal because its members were behaving like immature Christians, focusing on worldly wisdom and engaging in divisions, jealousy, and strife instead of living according to spiritual principles. Despite being part of the Christian community, they struggled with sin and failed to mature in their faith, acting more like "babes in Christ" than spiritually mature individuals.


For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Galatians 5:13-18


Now back to Romans 7:14-25... even Paul himself still struggled w/ a sin nature.

But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me
into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God;
but with the flesh the law of sin.
Romans 7:23-25

So you've been taught that the born again are still a sinner? Pure ignorance. John says in the 1st verse of the next chapter, My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. John isn't saying to us you will always be a sinner even now that you are in Christ. Read the third chapter! Jesus was manifest (came) to TAKE AWAY OUR SIN, and in Him there is no sin.
Just as parents would instruct/discipline their children, God instructs/disciplines His children. It doesn't mean we would never fall into the temptation to sin again. It's just realistic. No one can honestly say that they honor God in every word, thought, & deed. We won't be perfect until we receive our glorified bodies.

For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according
to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Philippians 3:20-21
 
Now back to Romans 7:14-25... even Paul himself still struggled w/ a sin nature.

But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me
into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God;
but with the flesh the law of sin.
Romans 7:23-25
So you want to be under the law instead of born again of the Spirit. Oh well, at least I tried to show you the truth that Romans 7:14-25 was Paul as a Pharisee, and showed the difference as a Christian in Romans 8:2 that freed him from Romans 7:14-25. Don't read in context. That would give you too much truth for you to handle.
 
So you want to be under the law instead of born again of the Spirit.
no one is de facto born again of spirit atm.

for that would mean His remnant had been
'raptured' , had the Change,
been transferred back to eden paradise
by Christ...

but not...

this flesh body
says only fallen matrix things.

for, it IS sin nature


None of us here still
are restored to the glorious body
made by God.
 
So you want to be under the law instead of born again of the Spirit. Oh well, at least I tried to show you the truth that Romans 7:14-25 was Paul as a Pharisee, and showed the difference as a Christian in Romans 8:2 that freed him from Romans 7:14-25. Don't read in context. That would give you too much truth for you to handle.
According to the Word of God, self righteousness is of the flesh, not of the Spirit. I was trying to see where you were coming from on this "dead to the sin nature" belief you hold, to try & reason w/ you showing how scripture states the opposite of what you say. Your denial shows you place yourself above God, making yourself your own authority over what scripture teaches. You're defensiveness in response demonstrates you still struggle w/ pride, which is sin, which is of the flesh.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Galatians 5:22-25
 
According to the Word of God, self righteousness is of the flesh, not of the Spirit. I was trying to see where you were coming from on this "dead to the sin nature" belief you hold, to try & reason w/ you showing how scripture states the opposite of what you say. Your denial shows you place yourself above God, making yourself your own authority over what scripture teaches. You're defensiveness in response demonstrates you still struggle w/ pride, which is sin, which is of the flesh.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Galatians 5:22-25

Yeah, so much verses based on the fact Christians do battle with Spirit vs flesh. So much of Paul's writing about overcoming/fleeing the lust of the flesh.
 
According to the Word of God, self righteousness is of the flesh, not of the Spirit. I was trying to see where you were coming from on this "dead to the sin nature" belief you hold, to try & reason w/ you showing how scripture states the opposite of what you say. Your denial shows you place yourself above God, making yourself your own authority over what scripture teaches. You're defensiveness in response demonstrates you still struggle w/ pride, which is sin, which is of the flesh.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Galatians 5:22-25
The Scriptures agree with me, not your false version. Why do you think Jesus came to die. For what? To take away our.....? I bet you are going to say our punishment.
 
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The Scriptures agree with me, not your false version. Why do you think Jesus came to die. For what? To take away our.....? I bet you are going to say our punishment.
Let's allow the Word of God to speak for Himself. No opinions, deal?


The Christian's Walk
(Ephesians 4:17-32)

This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,

Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them,
because of the blindness of their heart:

Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.

But ye have not so learned Christ;

If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:

That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;

And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;

And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.

Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:

Neither give place to the devil.


Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:

And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.


If Christians no longer had the ability to sin, then why the need for Paul to instruct us not to sin?


Apostasy
(1 Timothy 4:1-2)

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;


The apostasy within the church today is worse than ever, wouldn't you agree? Bearing false witness as mentioned above is breaking the ninth commandment, which is sin. Here's the difference, charismaticlady... the saved are forgiven all trespasses.



And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Colossians 2:13-14


No Christian honors God in every word, thought, & deed. We're not yet perfected b/c we still reside in our vile bodies.

If a Christian claims they do, 1 John 1:8 calls them a liar.
 
Let's allow the Word of God to speak for Himself. No opinions, deal?


The Christian's Walk
(Ephesians 4:17-32)

This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,

Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them,
because of the blindness of their heart:

Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.

But ye have not so learned Christ;

If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:

That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;

And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;

And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.

Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:

Neither give place to the devil.


Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:

And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.


If Christians no longer had the ability to sin, then why the need for Paul to instruct us not to sin?


Apostasy
(1 Timothy 4:1-2)

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;


The apostasy within the church today is worse than ever, wouldn't you agree? Bearing false witness as mentioned above is breaking the ninth commandment, which is sin. Here's the difference, charismaticlady... the saved are forgiven all trespasses.



And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Colossians 2:13-14


No Christian honors God in every word, thought, & deed. We're not yet perfected b/c we still reside in our vile bodies.

If a Christian claims they do, 1 John 1:8 calls them a liar.
Again, 1 John 1:8 is not a Christian. And neither are verses 6 and 10. How much unrighteousness does 1 John 1:9 cleanse us of? ALL!!! Verse 7 is a Christian. What the Church doesn't teach, and church goers seem to trust too much in their false teachers to know what they are teaching instead of the Bible, is there are two types of sin. 1 John 3 teaches of the worst type - the sins unto death. This is what Jesus came to cleanse us of as the Author of our faith, and what a born again Christian has no desire to commit even once - the breaking of a commandment of God, 1 John 3:9. What a born again Christian will commit are trespasses committed unintentionally of immature fruit. But if we continue to walk in the Spirit daily, Jesus cleanses us of those automatically as He, Himself, as the Finisher of our faith, matures our walk. Have you been taught, "sin is sin." So sad.
 
The phrase is from the Bible verse 1 John 1:9, which states, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness". This promise is conditional on confessing sins and trusting that God's faithfulness and righteousness will forgive and cleanse believers from all unrighteousness.

We all sin and fall short of the glory of God. What did Paul say after his conversion:

15. I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18. For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19. For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

Paul is now giving us an internal mental model of our inner self. There are two forces inside us at war with each other, the sin nature, or "flesh" and the redeemed nature. We have within us both our old sinful nature as well as our new nature, which is made in the image of Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17).

The inner desire to do what the Law says shows us that it is not the true Paul who is sinning. Rather, it is his inner sin nature that is acting in disobedience to the Law. Paul says I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate.

To confess sin effectively means to say about it exactly what God says about it. We know what we have done, and it only makes matters worse when we try to make things look better. Sin is sin and confession to the Lord must be heartfelt confession. “If I have sinned” accomplishes nothing. If we don’t come with a broken heart and honest confession, we have wasted our time.

Prayer, worship, offerings, and good works do not bring forgiveness, but sincere repentance and confession do. Whenever we sin, we must deal with the matter immediately and claim the Lord’s promise of forgiveness. Unconfessed sins that accumulate lead to the worst kind of conscience—the evil conscience.
 
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