are not ELDERS prophets also? and are not the gifts of the Holy Ghost for women also. and was not Priscilla the wife of Aquila a BISHOP/Pastor, just as Paul was? see Romans 16:3 and look up the term "Helper" there and see what it means.we are discussing elders in the church and their authority.
nice dodge.
Do we call God “Father” because God is male?Just like the home. Men are the leaders in the home and both Paul and Peter in their writings give us the difference in their roles in both the home and church.
The Elders are men whom the whole church submits to in the body of Christ. Elders are male, not female. Deacons are male, deaconesses are female. The deacons submit to the elders. Females submit to men in both the home and the church, The Son submits to the Father. Thats the biblical model.
How do you apply your biblical thinking to the scenario @synergy and Pancho are discussing?its not biblical we have a different source for truth- mine is the bible and yours is humanism,rationalism.
How do you apply that verse to the scenario that @synergy and Pancho are discussing?John 14:1 "Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me." John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
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good point, but just as the manifestation of a woman is not always in GENDER, but in function. for do not men ... CARRY ... the gospel, yes, because it's a FUNCTION, and not a gender.Do we call God “Father” because God is male?
well the NATURE of God is Spirit, and the function of that Spirit acts, and is personalized, or personified in the Nature/Gender as masculine which is having qualities or an appearance traditionally associated with men as MALES.How do you apply that verse to the scenario that @synergy and Pancho are discussing?
We have the Father and the Son not the mother and the daughter.Do we call God “Father” because God is male?
As you said, that is the biblical MODEL.
A model of thinking, visualizing, explaining. But we know God is not a Father… not a Mother… God is both things and none of those things.
scenerios fall short unless it comes form the bible.How do you apply your biblical thinking to the scenario @synergy and Pancho are discussing?
Did you read the scenario? I’d like to know your opinion.
but hold it a second, are not the TITLES, "Father" and "Son" are of the Holy Spirit, and the Spirit have feminine functions. is there not only ONE Spirit?We have the Father and the Son not the mother and the daughter.
next fallacy
was the Son Jesus Christ male, a man ? yes or nobut hold it a second, are not the TITLES, "Father" and "Son" are of the Holy Spirit, and the Spirit have feminine functions. is there not only ONE Spirit?
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in Gender or function? for son is a "character" quality, because a female can be a son also, G5207, huios. "Son", primarily signifies the relation of offspring to parent. It is often used metaphorically of prominent moral characteristics. descendants, without reference to sex, Rom 9:27was the Son Jesus Christ male, a man ? yes or no
BeautifulHow powerful words!
You are not afraid of death, because death cannot separate you from God.
The victory over death is the victory over fear of dying.
Those who love God fear no more.
.“There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. Whoever fears is not perfect in love.” (1 John 4:18)
For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, neither angels nor principalities nor powers, neither things present nor things to come, 39 neither height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord (Romans 8:38,39)
To all, Amen..... that is to KNOW who the Lord Jesus is, God almighty, HIMSELF, shared equally in flesh and bone. this the first principle of the Oracle of God, TO "KNOW" HIM. supportive scripture, Hebrews 5:12 "For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat." Hebrews 5:13 "For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe." Hebrews 5:14 "But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil."Beautiful
And this is how we love God = by Believing His Word who is His Son who is the Savior and LIGHT of the world
I'm ok with discussing scenarios. I'm glad to see that you enjoy them.I thank you for bringing up scenarios. You are one of the few people in the Forum who is not afraid to explain things through them.
Well, honestly, the only one I remember.
Only humans (Priests in the Traditional Churches) have been given the spiritual gift and authority to forgive sins on behalf of God (Jesus). The AI Jesus is out of luck in this respect. Here are some key passages:The man of your scenario has been forgiven and transformed by God, just as the Sikh and the Catholic priest, DESPITE having prayed to a virtual AI Jesus. God does not despise a broken heart.
In the end of the day, we all pray to a sort of virtual God… let me explain myself: we pray to the God we can conceive in our minds, which is light years from the God who actually exists.
It's only through Jesus that we see the Father. The Bible is clear on that.In Paul’s words, we see like through a mirror. What we see in the mirror is not the actual God, or the actual Jesus, or the actual Paul or Isaiah. We only see reflections of God, Jesus, Paul, Isaiah.
The important thing here is that it has been conclusively shown that your allah is no better than an AI Jesus in forgiving sins. Your allah has been dethroned again! In my other analyses, I have conclusively demonstrated that allah is no better than the god of death, a demon in other words.I can only speak for myself and this is not the position of the Bahai Faith: I guess it will depend on how society evolves.
If society is already being taught by AI at some point, God could speak through AI. Whatever makes sense for God.
Personally I suspect next Manifestation from God will be a woman.
I'm ok with discussing scenarios. I'm glad to see that you enjoy them.
Only humans (Priests in the Traditional Churches) have been given the spiritual gift and authority to forgive sins on behalf of God (Jesus). The AI Jesus is out of luck in this respect. Here are some key passages:
no one can be saved apart from the gospel message about Jesus. its just that simple- no gospel, no salvation.Dear friends
Merry Christmas to you all.
In the scenario, the man who repents genuinely is forgiven and transformed EVEN IF HE PRAYS TO AN AI-generated Jesus.
This is because what makes things happen matters is not the wisdom or ignorance of man, but the grace of God.
God would examine the heart of that person and operate the miracle, regardless of whether the man would be praying to a tree or stone.
So, going to the scenario, let’s call Dwight the person who prays to an AI-generated Jesus, Gurpreet to the Sikh and Antonio the Catholic priest.
Do you think that Antonio was forgiven and changed by God, but not Deight and Gurpreet?
So, who forgave Dwight and Antonio?no one can be saved apart from the gospel message about Jesus. its just that simple- no gospel, no salvation.
Romans 10: 8-17 tells us exactly the above.
conclusion: artificial is not real, its a substitute for the real.
artificial sweetner is not sugar, an artificial jesus is not the real Jesus but a fake.
good thing you like analogies and scenarios so you can see the errors in your thinking.
no Jesus, no salvation, no gospel, no salvation.So, who forgave Dwight and Antonio?
Who changed them into honest men?
Ask the question to a seven year old girl at Sunday School and see what she answers.