Johann
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I'm afraid you have to look at John 1.1 and cut the verse out-then we can dissect Yachid and Echad and Pros.(smile)..... he is the "ONLY" God, the TRUE and LIVING God............... (smile). amen.
101G.
I'm afraid you have to look at John 1.1 and cut the verse out-then we can dissect Yachid and Echad and Pros.(smile)..... he is the "ONLY" God, the TRUE and LIVING God............... (smile). amen.
101G.
Let's do Just that because John 1:1 eliminates any Yachid concerning the Godhead.I'm afraid you have to look at John 1.1 and cut the verse out-then we can dissect Yachid and Echad and Pros.
This joke is on you. Do you actually think because you demand I READ Something that it's going to happen? Nothing you post will change my belief in the Trinity.LOL, LOL, LOL, 101G will laugh at your statement. now READ, Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,"
how many is "he?" ONE, not "THEY" made them male and female in the beginning. and YES, you're deceived, and yes, you're contradicting the Lord Jesus in Words, ..... better known as LYING. when the Lord Jesus said, "he" made them male and Female, then YOU say they made them male and female, either YOU or the Lord Jesus is simply lying. and 101G knows the Lord Jesus don't LIE, so that narrowed it down.
101G.
More than willing to engage brother-but have a thought-it is 10.05 AM and I am kind of tired-Let's do Just that because John 1:1 eliminates any Yachid concerning the Godhead.
101G.
You know my answer, so stop playing games. If you don't know who Jesus is Let me help you out.101G know this, but 101G ask YOU, is Jesus the "ONLY" PERSON who is GOD? Yes or NO.
your answer please.
101G.
Well done.You know my answer, so stop playing games. If you don't know who Jesus is Let me help you out.
That's my King Jesus video>
The Bible says my King is the King of the Jews.
He's the King of Israel.
He's the King of righteousness.
He's the King of the ages.
He's the King of Heaven.
He's the King of glory.
He's the King of kings,
and He's the Lord of lords.
That's my King. I wonder...
Do you know Him?
My King is a sovereign King.
No means of measure can define his limitless love.
He's enduringly strong. He's entirely sincere.
He's eternally steadfast. He's immortally graceful.
He's imperially powerful. He's impartially merciful.
Do you know Him?
He's the greatest phenomenon that has ever crossed the horizon of this world.
He's God's Son. He's the sinner's Savior. He's the peak of civilization.
He's unparalleled. He's unprecedented. He is the loftiest idea in literature.
He's the highest personality in philosophy.
He's the fundamental doctrine of true theology.
He's the only one qualified to be an all-sufficient Savior.
I wonder if you know Him today.
He supplies strength for the weak.
He's available for the tempted and the tried.
He sympathizes and He saves.
He strengthens and sustains.
He heals the sick. He cleanses the lepers.
He forgives sinners. He discharges debtors.
He delivers the captives. He defends the feeble.
He blesses the young. He serves the unfortunate.
He regards the aged.
He rewards the diligent, and He beautifies the meager.
I wonder if you know Him.
He's the key to knowledge.
He's the wellspring of wisdom.
He's the doorway of deliverance.
He's the pathway of peace.
He's the roadway of righteousness.
He's the highway of holiness.
He's the gateway of glory.
Do you know Him?
Well, His light is matchless.
His goodness is limitless.
His mercy is everlasting.
His love never changes.
His word is enough.
His grace is sufficient.
His reign is righteous,
and His yoke is easy and His burden is light.
I wish I could describe Him to you.
Yes, He's indescribable. He's incomprehensible.
He's invincible. He's irresistible.
You can't get Him out of your mind.
You can't get Him off of your head.
You can't outlive Him, and you can't live without Him.
Well, the Pharisees couldn't stand Him,
but they found out they couldn't stop Him.
Pilate couldn't find any fault in Him.
Herod couldn't kill Him.
Death couldn't handle Him,
and the grave couldn't hold Him. I wonder if you know Him?
Not Even the Lord Jesus God almighty. thought so. 101G leave you to your own demise.Nothing you post will change my belief in the Trinity.
no problem, get your rest.More than willing to engage brother-but have a thought-it is 10.05 AM and I am kind of tired-
if that's true, who is the ONE sitting on the throne in Revelation chapter 4 and 5 and who is standing before the throne in Chapter 5The Bible says there are 2 who are called God, the Father and the Son.
There are 2 who are called Lord, the Father and the Son.
There are 2 who are called Savior, the Father and the Son.
There are 2 who are called King, the Father and the Son.
There are 2 who are called Redeemer, the Father and the Son.
There are 2 who are called The Beginning and the End.
There are 2 who are called The Only Sovereign.
There are 2 who are called The Everlasting Father.
There are 2 who are called The Mighty God.
There are 2 who have the gospel of salvation.
There are 2 who are called righteous.
There are 2 who are called Holy.
There are 2 who are called Light.
There are 2 who are called eternal.
There are 2 who are called immortal.
There are 2 who are called invisible.
There are 2 who have life in themselves.
There are 2 who are called the first and the last.
There are 2 who are called the alpha and omega.
There are 2 who are called the King of Kings.
There are 2 who are called the Lord of Lords.
There are 2 who are called the Word.
There are 2 who have a kingdom.
There are 2 who have all authority in heaven and on earth.
There are 2 who are worthy of worship.
There are 2 who have power over nature.
There are 2 who can forgive sins.
There are 2 who have power over Satan.
There are 2 who can and will judge.
There are 2 who have power over sickness and disease.
There are 2 who send the Holy Spirit to us.
There are 2 who answer prayers.
There are 2 who have all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
There are 2 who have power over death.
There are 2 in whom we must put our faith.
There are 2 who have promised us eternal life.
There are 2 who can work miracles.
There are 2 who can calm the sea.
There are 2 who speak the words of God.
There are 2 who give us grace.
There are 2 who give us peace.
There are 2 who give us hope.
There are 2 who give us joy.
There are 2 who are faithful.
There are 2 who are love.
There are 2 who always existed.
There are 2 who were uncreated.
There are 2 who loved us and gave their life for us.
There are 2 who are true.
There are 2 who have the power to save.
There are 2 who are the Creator.
There are 2 who are called our Shepherd.
There are 2 whom the angels worship.
There are 2 whom the four living creatures worship.
There are two with whom nothing is impossible.
There are two who are our Teacher.
There are two who are our Master.
There are two who give us righteousness.
There are two who give us faith.
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You are right. They are two, but they also are one. Jesus said, "I and the Father are One." "If you've seen Me, you've seen the Father." In Revelation 4 and 5, who was it that worshiped the One sitting on the throne AND the Lamb? The 24 elders, the 4 living creatures, multiplied millions of angels, and every created thing in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea and all things in them. Did you notice that the Lamb is not listed among those who were created? He, like the Father, is uncreated. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And who is it that did NOT worship the One sitting on the throne? The Lamb is NOT seen here worshiping the One who is sitting on the throne. Why would that be? Because they are the One God.if that's true, who is the ONE sitting on the throne in Revelation chapter 4 and 5 and who is standing before the throne in Chapter 5
let 101G make it very clear. ONE and only one sits on the throne in chapter 4 and 5. Revelation 4:2 "And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne." Revelation 4:3 "And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald."
so one sits on the Throne in chapter 4, he.
now chapter 5. Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth." Revelation 5:7 "And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne."
he, as a Lamb stood in the midst of the elders and the throne
question time, "he who stood in the midst of the throne, is he the same one who sits on the throne? yes or no, if no, please identify the "he" who sits on the throne, and the "he" who stands before the throne in chapter 5.
thanks in advance for your answer.
101G.
Yes similar to my wife and I are two- but the two have become one fleshYou are right. They are two, but they also are one. Jesus said, "I and the Father are One." "If you've seen Me, you've seen the Father." In Revelation 4 and 5, who was it that worshiped the One sitting on the throne AND the Lamb? The 24 elders, the 4 living creatures, multiplied millions of angels, and every created thing in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea and all things in them. Did you notice that the Lamb is not listed among those who were created? He, like the Father, is uncreated. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And who is it that did NOT worship the One sitting on the throne? The Lamb is NOT seen here worshiping the One who is sitting on the throne. Why would that be? Because they are the One God.
You're close, but on the right path. 101G commend you. But consider this, (not for argument, but for consideration). let's take this one step at a time. if you seek the truth let's discuss and not argue.You are right. They are two, but they also are one. Jesus said, "I and the Father are One." "If you've seen Me, you've seen the Father." In Revelation 4 and 5, who was it that worshiped the One sitting on the throne AND the Lamb? The 24 elders, the 4 living creatures, multiplied millions of angels, and every created thing in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea and all things in them. Did you notice that the Lamb is not listed among those who were created? He, like the Father, is uncreated. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And who is it that did NOT worship the One sitting on the throne? The Lamb is NOT seen here worshiping the One who is sitting on the throne. Why would that be? Because they are the One God.
only the ugly typical trinity is out... if you think of His Feminine Spirit and Christ as His Hands and as gorgeous BEINGS, and also belonging to God and part of Him... just as will be for us...First ERROR of the Day, let us has nothing to do with, "one of pre-eminent importance". it has to do with plurility of himself who is already the MOST IMPORTANT.
Second ERROR of the Day, no human king is God. 101G has hear that argument before. understand no human king is the First and the Last of himself..... in TIME, PLACE, ORDER, and RANK. he has only a limited time here on EARTH.
Now as for the LET US ...... as you say with the KING and his subjects, who was with God when he made man? post scripture to that please.
Concept? let's destroy this concept quickly, 1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." 1 John 5:8 "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."
let's break this down. in 1 John 5:7 it reads, "these three are one". did you see it? .... these, not THEY are one, these are not persons. because the very next verse points this same "CONCEPT", listen, "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."
is water a "PERSON?", how about "blood", is it a "PERSON?" of course not. the one qualify as a PERSON is the Spirit. see Father, Word, and Holy Ghost are TITLES, this is why John call them "THESE", and not "THEY".
understand, when Spirit, which is the person, is combined with WATER/Flesh, which make up the body, with blood, one has a .... LIVING SOUL. and that's only ONE PERSON. when one combine the TITLES, Father, Word, and Holy Spirit, it's of ONE PERSON. titles are not PERSONS, a person can have many titles.
so that "CONCEPT" of God as a trinity is out.
101G.
He was hurt at the fall when we were removed from Him. For he is not a Greek god who is impervious and does not hurt.You're close, but on the right path. 101G commend you. But consider this, (not for argument, but for consideration). let's take this one step at a time. if you seek the truth let's discuss and not argue.
#1. you're correct when you said, "They are two, but they also are one." what you just said, this is the mystery of the Godhead. let's look at what you said. A. they is off, instead of they, "he" is TWO as one Person. and here is this revelation. answer, H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj. this adjective describe God was "ANOTHER" of himself that was to come.... in flesh, the Last Adam, God in Flesh. the Greek term "Another" confirms this plurality. listen to the definition. according to the Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words,
[ 1,,G243 G2087 ,allos heteros ] have a difference in meaning, which despite a tendency to be lost, is to be observed in numerous passages. Allos expresses a numerical difference and denotes another of the same sort;" heteros expresses a qualitative difference and denotes "another of a different sort." please read those definition closely, read again if needed. G243 Allos is the Key in Understand the "ECHAD" in the NT..... "I and the Father are One". supportive scripture, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"
here is the answer to God's plurality. the term "Form" here in Philippians 2:6 this word mean,
G3444 μορφή morphe (mor-fee') n.
1. form.
2. (intrinsically) fundamental nature.
[perhaps from the base of G3313 (through the idea of adjustment of parts)]
KJV: form
Root(s): G3313
See also: G3445, G3446, G4832
so, the FORM of God is Spirit, per John 4:24. but the revelation is in the ROOT of this word,
G3313 μέρος meros (me'-ros) n.
1. a portion (i.e. an amount allotted, a part of something). BINGO, we need to go no further. another word for "portion" is SHARE. keep this word SHARE in your mind. also another word for " allotted", or allotment as a part of something.... is "SHARE", or the EQUAL SHARE. THERE IT IS, God is the EQUAL SHARE of HIMSELF in FLESH. as the G243 "ANOTHER" of himself ....... he is the numerical difference (in Ordinal Designimation) that is the same Sort, just as G243 ALLOS states. this is why the Lord Jesus said, "I and the Father are ONE". yes, the same one person in as Phil. 2:6 say, "equal with God.". just as Hebrew 1:3 say is the Express image of his "PERSON". yes, PERSON, meaning the same one PERSON, for Express means exact. and exact is the SAME, or EQUAL.
please read over this . 101G has some prior engagements this morn, but 101G will reply later this evening.
10G.
EVE, EVE, EVE, listen to yourself....... HIS Feminine Spirit? do you hear yourself? his, his, his, his, Feminine Spirit? God is a Spirit, (the only one), so his, his, his, own Spirit, (WHICH IS HIM), cannot be Feminine.only the ugly typical trinity is out... if you think of His Feminine Spirit