David Koberstein
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Well said. God's Word is always true. God's Word is cultureless, timeless and non-negotiable.
Shalom
Fellowship With Transgenders
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Tothalordbeallglory
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what a lovely statement .
And THAT same WORD
told the unbeleiving jews ye are of your father the devil .
So would anyone like to tell me why
so many are now clinging to the abraham peace accords interfaith interreligious dialgoue
Whose leaders told ALL them false religoins we serving the same GOD
coming to him in different ways .
BECAUSE HE who said I AM THE WAY , THE TRUTH and THE LIFE
darn sure never said that . Intefaith IS of anti christ .
And while i know antisemetism has risen
I DARN SURE KNOW that interfaith is NOT the solution but is of anti christ .
Selah
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Amen, my friend. It most certainly is of the devil. This interfaith nonsense is part of the one-world system that’s getting those who don’t know the Truth prepared to accept the Antichrist when he comes so peaceably and claiming to be Jesus. Woe! This is the great apostasy of the end times. Many will believe him (the AC) and end up worshiping him.
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Revelation 13:4-8 (NKJV) 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who [is] like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?” 5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
David Koberstein
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Another antisemitic!
Selah
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No, I’m not. Why would you say that?
Selah
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Revelation 2:8-9 (NKJV) 8 “And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write, ‘These things says the First and the Last, who was dead, and came to life: 9 “I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and [I know] the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but [are] a synagogue of Satan.
Do you know that not all Jews who say they are Jews actually are? They’re imposters; they’re hypocrites! We can read all about them in the book of John chapter 8 where Jesus exposes these lying scribes and Pharisees:
John 8:37-44 (NKJV) 37 “I know that you are Abraham’s descendants, but you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you. 38 “I speak what I have seen with My Father, and you do what you have seen with your father.” 39 They answered and said to Him, “Abraham is our father.” Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would do the works of Abraham. 40 “But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this. 41 “You do the deeds of your father.” Then they said to Him, “We were not born of fornication; we have one Father--God.” 42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. 43 “Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. 44 “You are of [your] father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own [resources,] for he is a liar and the father of it.
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Revelation 2:8-9 (NKJV) 8 “And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write, ‘These things says the First and the Last, who was dead, and came to life: 9 “I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and [I know] the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but [are] a synagogue of Satan.
Do you know that not all Jews who say they are Jews actually are? They’re imposters; they’re hypocrites! We can read all about them in the book of John chapter 8 where Jesus exposes these lying scribes and Pharisees:
John 8:37-44 (NKJV) 37 “I know that you are Abraham’s descendants, but you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you. 38 “I speak what I have seen with My Father, and you do what you have seen with your father.” 39 They answered and said to Him, “Abraham is our father.” Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would do the works of Abraham. 40 “But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this. 41 “You do the deeds of your father.” Then they said to Him, “We were not born of fornication; we have one Father--God.” 42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. 43 “Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. 44 “You are of [your] father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own [resources,] for he is a liar and the father of it.
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DavidTree
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FAQ: Should Christians shun transgenders?
Answer from Scripture = Absolutely not!!! = Matthew 12:31-32
“Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Transgenderism is a sin against God and a sin against His Creation and is FORGIVEABLE
The Mark of the Beast will not be forgiven = It is the Final Blaspheme against the HOLY SPIRIT
DavidTree
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It is VERY MUCH a SIN and a very evil one at that!!!
It is as much a sin as fornication and adultery
David Koberstein
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If your anti interfaith then your probably antisemitic. I worship with people of the Messianic and the Christian faith.
Shalom
Selah
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David Koberstein
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Transgender and gender dysphoria is a serious sin. This violates God's order on creation. When a person tries to
change their gender they are basically saying that I am created in God's image, but I am going to change that
image to suit me not you God. God makes no mistakes on gender. He only created two genders and His only
command was to be fruitful and multiply.
Shalom
David Koberstein
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Transgender is not a grey area. It is strictly prohibited in the Jewish Didache.
Please do not mis quote Scripture (Matt 7:12) to justify your false beliefs.
Jewish Didache 5.2
"Those who corrupt what God has formed" connects back to the previous evil-doers:
"Those who do not recognize the one who made them," and both of these statements
connect back to "You shall love God who made you" (1.2) Because the wicked do not
recognize that it is God who formed and created human beings, they have no reservations
about destroying the workmanship. In turn, a lack of the acknowledgement of God in one's
life leads to devaluing the sanctity of life.
Jewish Didache 1.2
"You shall love the LORD your God" (Deuteronomy 6:5, 11:1). The Master prioritized this
injunction as one of the two commandments on which "depend all the Torah and the Prophets."
The version of the Didache preserved in the Apostolic Constitutions strengthens the work's
connection with Shma by adding to the command: "Love the Lord God with all your mind, and
with all your soul, who is the one and only God, besides whom there is no other."
"You shall love the God who made you" is similar to Sirach's "With all your strength love your Maker."
Although the commandment obviously derives from Deuteronomy 6:4-5, the Didache does not
include the words, "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one." Moreover, instead of stating
that one is to love "the LORD your God," it substitutes "God who made you." This broader more
universal language about God may indicate that the words were tailored for broader application
than within the narrow confines of Jewish covenantal language. Aaron Milavec writes that this
is fitting, "because Gentiles meet the Lord of Israel not as the God 'who brought you out of the land
of Egypt' (Exodus 20:2), but as the God who made you.'''
Shalom
Actually they were Jews who believed.
Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
They answered Him, “We are Abraham’s descendants, and have never been in bondage to anyone. How can You say, ‘You will be made free’?” John 8:31-33
They would not confess Him as LORD.
“I know that you are Abraham’s descendants, but you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you. I speak what I have seen with My Father, and you do what you have seen with your father.”
They answered and said to Him, “Abraham is our father.”
Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would do the works of Abraham. But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this.
John 8:37-40
Now here comes the insult, because they didn’t believe He was born of a virgin, but said He was a child of fornication. Believing Mary had relations and became pregnant rather than being born of a virgin.
You do the deeds of your father.”
Then they said to Him, “We were not born of fornication; we have one Father—God.”
John 8:41
Now here comes the truth -
You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. John 8:44
Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. John 8:58-59
David Koberstein
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1. Benign Neglect Of The Jews Is Antisemitic
There are Christians who justify their neglect of Jewish evangelism with remarks such as, "I don't know
any Jews," "I've never thought about Judaism," "God hasn't called me to concern myself with Jews."
All are unsatisfactory excuses, because Scripture does not allow the option of overlooking the Jews.
Zechariah 1:15 is a very interesting verse . God tells the prophet, "I am highly displeased with the
goyim"---the Hebrew word can mean Gentiles, pagans, or nations---"who are at ease; for I was only
a little displeased, but they helped forward the affliction." How did the Gentiles help "forward the
affliction" of the Jews? By being "at ease"---indifferent, not caring, ignoring the situation.
What is right is to bring the Gospel to the Jewish people in a way that takes seriously their position
as the people of God, whose gift and calling, Paul wrote, are irrevocable. Or, to put it differently,
what is right is to be a channel for God's love to the Jews.
2. Purposeful Neglect, Justified By History, Is Antisemitic
There are also people who call themselves Christians who not only neglect Jews and refuse to evangelize
them, but do so on purpose and believe that they are right. However, others do not rely on emotions but
attempt to rationalize steering clear of Jewish evangelism by objective facts. A common Justification for not
evangelizing Jews arises from the Holocaust. Six million Jews died at the hands of the Nazis. During Hitler's
twelve-year rule the state churches were notoriously silent and weak in the face of a visible evil. Moreover,
mainstream Christian theology, if not actually antisemitic, was sufficiently cold toward Jews and Judaism to
allow virulent antisemitism to express itself unchecked. Many well-meaning Christians ask how, in the face
of such sin by the church, do we dare tell Jews they should believe in Jesus?
3. Purposeful Neglect, Justified By Theology, Is Antisemitic
Another way in which Christians who will not evangelize Jews justify themselves is through two-covenant
theology. This says that Jesus brought the covenant through which Gentiles emerge from paganism to
know the one true God, but the Jews already have the covenant through Moses, so they do not need
Yeshua the Messiah. In fact, it is both a diversion and an insult to tell Jews about him. But for anyone who
accepts the New Testament as God-given, one verse is enough to blow two-covenant theology out of the
arena, John 14:6: "Yeshua said, 'I am the way and the truth and the life; no one comes to the father except
through me.''' This verse teaches that no one---neither Jew nor Gentile---comes to the Father except through
Yeshua the Messiah.
Shalom
Yes agreed. Two Covenant Theology is false.
Tothalordbeallglory
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because we dont support INTERFAITH . he called me antisemtic too .
But i promise us all that this interfaith is of anti christ . People are being decieved right into a snare
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