Fellowship With Transgenders

[Olde Tymer]

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Some girls choose to keep their uterus just in case they change their minds about
becoming a mommy. But the thing is: +/- two years of taking cross-sex
medications during puberty can cause a growing girl's uterus to become
permanently atrophied and no more fertile than a plastic throw-away shopping bag.
So even should girls decide to keep their uterus, they are at risk of losing its use for
the rest of their lives if they don't stop taking cross-sex medications in time to save
it.
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[Behold]

.Beware of profiling!

Beware of "blind tolerance" being presented as "love your neighbor", according to the Carnal Christian.

A real Christian, understands that we are to LOVE what God LOVES and not to accept what God does not accept.

And it would seem that many believers are lost in this idea.,,,,

= "love your neighbor", means..."accept everything that God does not accept, if its been Legalized".

We are not to confuse God's love with Toleration of everything that comes from the Devil.

The Devil creates "doctrines of devils' and we are not to TOLERATE that situation.

The Devil creates "alt sexuality", and we are not to TOLERATE that situation.

Do we invite everyone to the Cross, and to the Christ? = OF COURSE< but that is not the same as accepting their LIFESTYLE or their Theology that does not reflect God's Truth and God's Morality.

I was just talking about this on another forum......

The discussion is..."if you dont allow everything that has a Theology, to come to your church and get in the Pulpit and preach it, then why do you allow this to happen on a CHRISTIAN Forum".

We dont allow everything to get into the Pulpit and TEACH the members, because we have to keep them SAFE from Heresy, as that is protecting them from The Devil.
Yet, on a Forum, that is "unknown" by the people who create them.

Something is WRONG with that Picture..

 

[Olde Tymer]

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Remember Satan only comes to rob to kill and destroy.

Eve was the first to taste the forbidden fruit, and when she did; nothing happened.
She went right on unashamed in the buff the same as before, viz: it wasn't till Adam
tasted the fruit that Eve became sensitive about her body's appearance naked.

Now the thing is: Eve was constructed with material taken from Adam's body, but
she was already fully formed and fully sentient prior to his tasting the fruit so it was
too late for Adam's eating to effect Eve by means of heredity.

So: if Eve's feelings about her naked body weren't altered by means of the chemistry
of the fruit, and if they weren't altered by means of heredity; then by what?

Mr. Serpent is the logical source (a.k.a. the Devil & Satan, Rev 20:2) He has the power
of death (Heb 2:14) and the ability to tamper with the human body and the human
mind in ways not easily detected; e.g. Luke 13:16, Mark 5:1-5, and Eph 2:2.

The Serpent was apparently all set and ready to wield his power the moment that
Adam crossed the line and ate that fruit. It amazes me how quickly it takes effect.
Not long after Adam tasted the fruit, he and his wife both immediately set to work
cobbling together some rudimentary aprons to cover their pelvic areas.

FAQ: When does the Serpent go to work on people . . . in the womb or out of the
womb?

REPLY: Adam and his wife demonstrate the Serpent's ability to work on adults, but
I'm guessing he gets to most everyone else in the womb. (Ps 51:5 & Ps 58:3)

FAQ: So you think this Devil of yours has something to do with the current wave
of gender dysphoria?

REPLY: Duh!
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[Fool4Christ]

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Some girls choose to keep their uterus just in case they change their minds about
becoming a mommy. But the thing is: +/- two years of taking cross-sex
medications during puberty can cause a growing girl's uterus to become
permanently atrophied and no more fertile than a plastic throw-away shopping bag.
So even should girls decide to keep their uterus, they are at risk of losing its use for
the rest of their lives if they don't stop taking cross-sex medications in time to save
it.
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It's a crazy world we live in in Satan is the ruler of it. Changing the sex of little children is about as crazy as it gets. Except for maybe abortion.

 

[Behold]

It's a crazy world we live in in Satan is the ruler of it. Changing the sex of little children is about as crazy as it gets. Except for maybe abortion.

Trying to take children from their parents, because the parents wont agree to chemical castration or similar..

We use to think that "Gay Rights", Legalized, was the worst, but it was just the lid coming off of Pandora's Box.

Now its Gay marriage, Gay Adoption, Gay Ministers, Gay Bibles, Transgenders.
Its First Grade Teachers in the USA talking to 6 yr olds about "choosing your sexuality"..

Its as if the USA has decided..>"if its immoral and perverted and unnatural then its going to vote for the Democrat party if we give it rights and legalize it".

The USA is the #1 exporter of sexual perversion rights.

One more "end times" sign, as this Amazing Country, use to be the Light of the World among Nations..., and God knows that this is no longer the case.

 

[Olde Tymer]

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FAQ: The entire gender dysphoria mechanism? --educators, students, medical
professionals, psychiatric counselors, parents, and various government agencies at
State and Federal levels, etc --are caught up in some sort of paranormal master
plan?

REPLY: Yes.

* Ironically the progressive element in our midst is called "woke" when in reality it
is actually under the influence of a very powerful kind of hypnosis about which we
thus far know very little; and you hot-shot pulpit pounders out there need to be
very careful how you behave yourselves in talks with these folks.

"The Lord's servants must not quarrel but must be kind to everyone. They must be
able to teach effectively, and be patient with difficult people. They should gently
teach those who oppose the truth. Perhaps God will change those people's hearts,
and they will believe the truth. Then they will come to their senses and escape from
the Devil's trap. For they have been held captive by him to do whatever he wants."
(2Tim 2:23-26)
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[Olde Tymer]

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A full transgender process typically includes psychiatric counseling, cross-sex
hormones, puberty blockers, and specialized surgery. Unfortunately the results of a
full process aren't always satisfactory, rather, quite disappointing as patients
sometimes find themselves saddled with inconvenient side effects and unpleasant
complications.

To top it off: thus far the process has been unable to replicate real men and
women. No; at best the process has managed to produce only artificial men and
women that don't function near as well as patients were led to expect.

But that's not all-- there's also the afterlife to consider, which has the potential to
make transgendering a futile expenditure of one's resolve.

● John 3:1-2 . . Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a
member of the Jewish ruling council. He came to Jesus at night and said: "Rabbi,
we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the
miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him."

Pharisees in that day were very pious men-- typically educated, and highly
respected. To my knowledge, this man was neither gay nor afflicted with gender
dysphoria. So considering his qualities; Jesus' response is very curious.

● John 3:3 . . In reply Jesus declared: "I tell you the truth, no one can see the
kingdom of God unless he is born again."

The Greek word translated "again" basically means from above. In other words,
Jesus wasn't speaking of a ritual or a sacred rite; no, he was speaking of an act of
God.

The thing to note is that this particular act of God isn't optional, rather, it's
required, i.e. there are no exceptions and no exemptions to this rule regardless of
one's moral perfections and/or imperfections, and regardless of age, race, religion,
social/financial/political status, and/or gender identity.

● John 3:7 . . You must be born again.

We're all equals in that respect, therefore:

● Rom 15:5-7 . . May the God who gives endurance and encouragement give you a
spirit of unity among yourselves as you follow Christ Jesus, so that with one heart
and mouth you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Accept one
another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring praise to God.
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[Olde Tymer]

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Thus far my comments have been relative to folks who've undergone a full
transgender process; which typically includes psychiatric counseling, cross-sex
hormones, puberty blockers, and specialized surgery.

I am very tolerant of those people, whereas I am greatly discontented with guys
competing in women's sports whose bodies fail to display even the slightest hint of
femininity, i.e. they are not taking cross-sex hormones, nor have they undergone
any of the appropriate surgeries.

In my judicious estimation: guys insisting they are women while still in possession
of their full and complete natural manhood, are frauds and shameless cheats right
down there in the dirt with the lowest of wolves in sheep's clothing we might name.

I would recommend not only shunning a Christian man who competes in women's
sports solely on the basis of his "identifying" as a woman, but to avoid all
association with that guy-- both in church and out of church --lest his churlish
scruples rub off on us.

● 1Cor 15:33 . . Do not be misled: Bad company corrupts good character.
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[SteveB]

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FAQ: Should Christians shun transgenders?

REPLY: Absolutely not!

Transgendering isn't specifically addressed in the Bible, viz: it's a gray area, and as
such ought to be approached in accord with the 14th chapter of Romans which
says, in so many words, that we are not permitted to engage transgenders with
debating nor abuse them with judgmental criticism

Transgendering is a rough road to travel due to embarrassing therapy regimens;
and side effects, complications, negative public opinion, doubts, regrets,
disappointment, and mood swings that many would rather not talk about. So be
especially careful with your dialogue so as not to push them to the point where
you'll be forcing them to maintain their poise with fibs.

A little empathy, and a whole lot of tact and courtesy, can be very useful in helping
someone get thru the day, ergo: don't become a hell for transgenders, instead,
become a haven because people really ought to feel safe with Christians instead of
wary.

● Matt 7:12 . . So in everything: do to others what you would have them do to you.
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This brings to mind Paul’s statement in 1 Corinthians 5 about not having fellowship with anyone living in sin, who claims to be a follower of Jesus.

1Co 5:9-13 WEB 9 I wrote to you in my letter to have no company with sexual sinners; 10 yet not at all meaning with the sexual sinners of this world, or with the covetous and extortionists, or with idolaters, for then you would have to leave the world. 11 But as it is, I wrote to you not to associate with anyone who is called a brother who is a sexual sinner, or covetous, or an idolater, or a slanderer, or a drunkard, or an extortionist. Don’t even eat with such a person. 12 For what do I have to do with also judging those who are outside? Don’t you judge those who are within? 13 But those who are outside, God judges. “Put away the wicked man from among yourselves.”

While we're to not fellowship with anyone who is an unbeliever, it's often ignored that we're more so to not fellowship with people professing faith, but living in sin.

This idea of fellowship is a much more intimate interaction on the spiritual level.

 

[Adherent]

Can Someone be a Gay Christian?​

The answer to this question will depend on what we mean by “gay.”

Can Someone be a Gay Christian? - Repentance, Faith, and Salvation

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[Behold]

Can someone be a "gay Christian". ?

Do you mean can someone who prefers and chooses to have same gender sex, come to The Cross, and become born again, and then the next day they have a desire to have same gender sex.................?

That answer is pretty obvious.

So...The real question is... "should a new or advanced Christian, who was a practicing homosexual prior to their Salvation, deny themselves and seek God for deliverance".

A.) Of Course.

 

[Adherent]

And I agree When you're post is exactly what I'm thinking about. Say a person is living the homosexual lifestyle and they want to be a Christian but have no intention of leaving the homosexual lifestyle. So my question Goes with your answer.

 

[Behold]

And I agree When you're post is exactly what I'm thinking about. Say a person is living the homosexual lifestyle and they want to be a Christian but have no intention of leaving the homosexual lifestyle. So my question Goes with your answer.

God does not require you to clean up, before He will accept your Faith in Christ to save you.


""""Jesus came to save sinners..""""

"while we were YET Sinners, Christ died for us".

"To Him who worketh NOT.. but believes in GOD who Justifies the = UNGODLY....... = THEIR faith is counted as (Christ's) Righteousness.""


There are a lot of people who are on a "repentance Trip"... lost inside a mental hangup about "repenting"..


Listen reader, its our dirty rotten sinful lives that QUALIFIED US for Salvation.

I would estimate that if the "gay sex addict" is wanting to be saved, to be forgiven, then they are not thinking about anything but their need of Salvation.

 

[Quintus5]

I'm just now reading through this and I can find nowhere that either Fred Rogers or his son were pedophiles. All of the cases i saw were of different Rogers.

 

[Cosmo]

God does not require you to clean up, before He will accept your Faith in Christ to save you.


""""Jesus came to save sinners..""""

"while we were YET Sinners, Christ died for us".

"To Him who worketh NOT.. but believes in GOD who Justifies the = UNGODLY....... = THEIR faith is counted as (Christ's) Righteousness.""


There are a lot of people who are on a "repentance Trip"... lost inside a mental hangup about "repenting"..


Listen reader, its our dirty rotten sinful lives that QUALIFIED US for Salvation.

I would estimate that if the "gay sex addict" is wanting to be saved, to be forgiven, then they are not thinking about anything but their need of Salvation.

How did Jesus address the issue of homosexual practice? First, in Matthew 5:17–20, part of the Sermon on the Mount, He makes clear that He did not come to “abolish the Law or the Prophets … but to fulfill them,” and as we read the rest of Jesus’s teachings here, we see that He takes the sexual morals of the Torah (the Law) to a deeper level. For example:

You have heard that it was said, “You shall not commit adultery.” But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.
—MATTHEW 5:27–30

Jesus took the moral laws of the Torah, which included statutes concerning marriage and sexual immorality, and took them to a deeper level—adultery included lust in the heart; murder included hatred in the heart—rather than doing away with them.

And since homosexual practice was strictly prohibited in the Torah, not just for the people of Israel but for all nations, when Jesus said He was not abolishing the Law or the Prophets but rather fulfilling them, He clearly intended that this prohibition would continue to stand as well. In fact, we could even argue that the prohibition is deepened, just as the prohibitions against adultery and murder were deepened.

Bottom line is you can't be a practicing homosexual. You must repent.

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners [malakoi], practicing homosexuals [arsenokoitai], thieves, the greedy, drunkards, the verbally abusive, and swindlers will not inherit the kingdom of God. Some of you once lived this way. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
1 Corinthians 6:9–11

 

[David Koberstein]

Can Someone be a Gay Christian?​

The answer to this question will depend on what we mean by “gay.”

Can Someone be a Gay Christian? - Repentance, Faith, and Salvation

Read about Can Someone be a Gay Christian? - Repentance, Faith, and Salvation. Grow in your understanding of Christianity and faith.

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Absolutely Not!!

 

[MTMattie]

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Eve was the first to taste the forbidden fruit, and when she did; nothing happened.
She went right on unashamed in the buff the same as before, viz: it wasn't till Adam
tasted the fruit that Eve became sensitive about her body's appearance naked.

Now the thing is: Eve was constructed with material taken from Adam's body, but
she was already fully formed and fully sentient prior to his tasting the fruit so it was
too late for Adam's eating to effect Eve by means of heredity.

So: if Eve's feelings about her naked body weren't altered by means of the chemistry
of the fruit, and if they weren't altered by means of heredity; then by what?

Mr. Serpent is the logical source (a.k.a. the Devil & Satan, Rev 20:2) He has the power
of death (Heb 2:14) and the ability to tamper with the human body and the human
mind in ways not easily detected; e.g. Luke 13:16, Mark 5:1-5, and Eph 2:2.

The Serpent was apparently all set and ready to wield his power the moment that
Adam crossed the line and ate that fruit. It amazes me how quickly it takes effect.
Not long after Adam tasted the fruit, he and his wife both immediately set to work
cobbling together some rudimentary aprons to cover their pelvic areas.

FAQ: When does the Serpent go to work on people . . . in the womb or out of the
womb?

REPLY: Adam and his wife demonstrate the Serpent's ability to work on adults, but
I'm guessing he gets to most everyone else in the womb. (Ps 51:5 & Ps 58:3)

FAQ: So you think this Devil of yours has something to do with the current wave
of gender dysphoria?

REPLY: Duh!
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Neither one of them were ashamed of their nakedness until they heard Gods voice and they hid to keep Him from seeing them that way

 

[MTMattie]

God does not require you to clean up, before He will accept your Faith in Christ to save you.


""""Jesus came to save sinners..""""

"while we were YET Sinners, Christ died for us".

"To Him who worketh NOT.. but believes in GOD who Justifies the = UNGODLY....... = THEIR faith is counted as (Christ's) Righteousness.""

True, but if they are true born again, then the Holy Spirit will work wonders. Might be slow but it will be done

There are a lot of people who are on a "repentance Trip"... lost inside a mental hangup about "repenting"..


Listen reader, its our dirty rotten sinful lives that QUALIFIED US for Salvation.

I would estimate that if the "gay sex addict" is wanting to be saved, to be forgiven, then they are not thinking about anything but their need of Salvation.