Ephesians 2:8 salvation is the gift

Lets examine something . notice it says that all who DO BELIEVE in HIM should not perish but have everlasting life .
What occurs to those who as the prophets warned would fail to beleive .
WELL lets see it from the mouth of an apostel in acts WHO QUOATED it .
BEWARE , wonder AND PERISH . okay so we see it says PERISH
FOR i will work a work in your day that though a man declare it unto you , ye will NOT beleive .
OOPSY .
OR here is another place another one spoke .
Quaoting i beleive it was moses .
And HE who will NOT HEAR that PROPHET
shall be DESTROYED from among the people . THAT PROPHET Like unto me
HIM shall ye hear , MOSES SPOKE OF JESUS THE CHRIST.
SO why come i see me a big ol fat broad all inclusive road they CLIAM leads to GOD
and on that big ol fat road of SIN and UNBELIEF they holler IT matters not what ye beleive what religoin ye are
WE IS ALL coming to GOD , just lovey do . ANTI CHRIST IS AT WORK and many anti christs DO this will
of the worker of the mystery of inquity
AND WORSE MANY even within CHRISTENDOM sure seem to love to have this ever incluisive ever broading
LIE they think is love to be preached and taught . THIS SHEEP dont find common ground with anti christ
with darkness , with men and women of belial . WE have no common ground with darkness
you silly people , we expose it and preach JESUS . the latter of which THEY DARN SURE see no need for at all .
GETTING real bad in these very late hours my friend .
@Tothalordbeallglory
“Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: For I work a work in your days, A work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭13‬:‭41‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
Same King as this KING = Revelation chapter 19

He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.
And the armies in heaven, clothed in ine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses. Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written:

KING OF KINGS AND
LORD OF LORDS.
Why look at the beauty of that my friend . HIS name is called the WORD OF GOD .
man i sure seem to remember
that even in the gospel of john
it clearly says AND the WORD was GOD . Aint that something .
SO many would condemn and have stoned and cast out thomas
FOR what HE said to JESUS . and seem to have forgotten THAT SAME JESUS NEVER CORRECT HIM
for saying what he said .
OH make no mistake JESUS DID CORRECT THOMAS for HIS ERROR , just like he did peter and the others
I mean thomas made a deadly mistake of NOT beleiving the men who said HE had risen
SO JESUS Rebukes thomas and says STOP BEING faithless .
And YE beleive because you saw me , BLESSED are they who have not and YET BELIEVED .
BUT can anyone show me where JESUS rebuked the same thomas
FOR KNEELING BEFORE HIM and saying MY LORD and MY GOD . exactly . HE DIDNT .
AND YOU CAN BET you bottom to top dollar
IF what thomas had said was wrong , was blasphemy , OH YOU BETTER BELIEVE JESUS WOULD HAVE REBUKED HIM .
ONLY HE DIDNT . I am alpha and omega , the first and the last . Folks better wisen up fast .
 
For every word used satan can twist that word .
AND HE DO twist it .
Many have NOT the LOVE OF GOD IN THEM
for HE who GOD did send
THEY BELEIVE NOT HIS WORDS . and WELL , lets face it
THE CHARITY , LOVE OF GOD , rejoices IN TRUTH , not a lie .
MANY who claim to have the love of GOD , have only the love of the world
that does so build the greatest many many many lane highway
it claims leadeth to GOD . But at the end of that mulit massive road
IS TOTAL and SUDDEN destruction .
Too many done put they lips to the wacky tabbacky pipe of the WELL favored HARLOT
and they so high they simply cannot come back down . BUT WILL ON THE DAY OF THE LORD
ANY NATION that turns its back on GOD shall be made into hell .
@Tothalordbeallglory
“as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3‬:‭16‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
Why look at the beauty of that my friend . HIS name is called the WORD OF GOD .
man i sure seem to remember
that even in the gospel of john
it clearly says AND the WORD was GOD . Aint that something .
SO many would condemn and have stoned and cast out thomas
FOR what HE said to JESUS . and seem to have forgotten THAT SAME JESUS NEVER CORRECT HIM
for saying what he said .
OH make no mistake JESUS DID CORRECT THOMAS for HIS ERROR , just like he did peter and the others
I mean thomas made a deadly mistake of NOT beleiving the men who said HE had risen
SO JESUS Rebukes thomas and says STOP BEING faithless .
And YE beleive because you saw me , BLESSED are they who have not and YET BELIEVED .
BUT can anyone show me where JESUS rebuked the same thomas
FOR KNEELING BEFORE HIM and saying MY LORD and MY GOD . exactly . HE DIDNT .
AND YOU CAN BET you bottom to top dollar
IF what thomas had said was wrong , was blasphemy , OH YOU BETTER BELIEVE JESUS WOULD HAVE REBUKED HIM .
ONLY HE DIDNT . I am alpha and omega , the first and the last . Folks better wisen up fast .
@Tothalordbeallglory
“And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”
‭‭John‬ ‭20‬:‭28‬-‭29‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
Good luck
That was from the movie "Taken" where the human trafficker said to Liam Neeson = "good luck" at rescuing his daughter

@Studyman
Have you considered who Jeremiah 10:10 is speaking of???

@Studyman = i AGREE with you that we are to "believe every word spoken by the Mouth of God" = Matt 4:4

@Studyman = since God is for us, let us believe every word HE speaks to us

SHALOM
 
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@Studyman

But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation. - Jeremiah 10:10

Who is This???

Again, as is your custom, the tradition of this world's religious system you have adopted that I pointed out in my post. You take one scripture out of the Christ's Message through Jeremiah, separate it from the rest of the Bible, and complete ignore what the Message actually is.

Here, let's post what is actually written and then enter into a discussion about why the Holy One of Israel had this written for my admonition, in my time on earth, upon whom the ends of the world have come.

Jer. 10: 1 Hear ye the word which the LORD (Who Became Flesh and Blood in the person of Jesus ) speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4 They deck it with silver and with gold; "they fasten it with nails and with hammers", that it move not.

5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.

6 Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O LORD; thou art great, and thy name is great in might.

7 Who would not fear thee, O King of nations? for to thee doth it appertain: forasmuch as among all the wise men of the nations, and in all their kingdoms, there is none like unto thee.

8 But they are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities.

9 Silver spread into plates is brought from Tarshish, and gold from Uphaz, the work of the workman, and of the hands of the founder: blue and purple is their clothing: they are all the work of cunning men.

10 But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.

Now I will ask you a question and see if you will answer.

Has the Christ, the Holy One of Israel, who became a mortal man in the person of Jesus, who was killed be men professing to know God, raised from the Dead, and ascended to His Father, returned to this earth in His Wrath?

Or is this prophesy yet to be fulfilled?
 
@Tothalordbeallglory
“And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”
‭‭John‬ ‭20‬:‭28‬-‭29‬ ‭KJV‬‬
Gems are popping up all over the place
Sisters fingers be on fire , TRENCH TIME SISTER , with whatever short time this world has left
WE sheep gonna be pointing TO THE ONLY ONE , THE ONLY NAME that can save . interfaith is OF ANTI CHRIST
and i do and shall expose it .
 
Why look at the beauty of that my friend . HIS name is called the WORD OF GOD .
man i sure seem to remember
that even in the gospel of john
it clearly says AND the WORD was GOD . Aint that something .
SO many would condemn and have stoned and cast out thomas
FOR what HE said to JESUS . and seem to have forgotten THAT SAME JESUS NEVER CORRECT HIM
for saying what he said .
OH make no mistake JESUS DID CORRECT THOMAS for HIS ERROR , just like he did peter and the others
I mean thomas made a deadly mistake of NOT beleiving the men who said HE had risen
SO JESUS Rebukes thomas and says STOP BEING faithless .
And YE beleive because you saw me , BLESSED are they who have not and YET BELIEVED .
BUT can anyone show me where JESUS rebuked the same thomas
FOR KNEELING BEFORE HIM and saying MY LORD and MY GOD . exactly . HE DIDNT .
AND YOU CAN BET you bottom to top dollar
IF what thomas had said was wrong , was blasphemy , OH YOU BETTER BELIEVE JESUS WOULD HAVE REBUKED HIM .
ONLY HE DIDNT . I am alpha and omega , the first and the last . Folks better wisen up fast .
SO many would condemn and have stoned and cast out thomas
FOR what HE said to JESUS
And they would be guiltless if what Thomas said was indeed blasphemy


IF what thomas had said was wrong , was blasphemy , OH YOU BETTER BELIEVE JESUS WOULD HAVE REBUKED HIM
100% CORRECT = JESUS would of addressed this IMMEDIATELY to Thomas and the other disciples.

Remember when JESUS rebuked Peter in front of the other disciples = LOUDLY and Openly for all to hear

JESUS rebuked Peter and said: "Get behind me satan for you care not for the things of God but of men"

When Thomas said: "my Lord and my God", he declared the TRUTH and therefore no rebuke or correction from JESUS
 
That was from the movie "Taken" where the human trafficker said to Liam Neeson = "good luck" at rescuing his daughter

@Studyman
Have you considered who Jeremiah 10:10 is speaking of???

@Studyman = i AGREE with you that we are to "believe every word spoken by the Mouth of God" = Matt 4:4

@Studyman = since God is for us, let us believe every word HE speaks to us

SHALOM
BELIEVE . that be the key . that be the KEY right there .
Now why would anyone love and embrace a lie .
WELL seeing we all did once the answer to that is THEY LOST and DO NOT KNOW GOD
but like perhaps even i could they can still lip the gospel and some truths .
What if i told you
That the SPIRIT that GOD giveth and seals the BELIEVER WITH IS actually HOLY .
IT actually Leads one into TRUTH , not rebellion
IN fact IT IS THE TRUTH
IN Fact IT IS THE SPIRIT OF GOD , OF CHRIST .
WOULD that there SPIRIT then turn around and start LYING and omitting and twisting
The words OF GOD . GOD IS TRUTH , HIS SPIRIT IS TRUTH
THE SPIRIT can no more DENY GOD than GOD can deny HIMSELF . THE SON cannot DENY the FATHER
any more than the FATHER HIMSELF .
ITS HIGH TIME PEOPLE learn . GOD CANT LIE BUT MEN DARN SURE CAN .
 
And they would be guiltless if what Thomas said was indeed blasphemy



100% CORRECT = JESUS would of addressed this IMMEDIATELY to Thomas and the other disciples.

Remember when JESUS rebuked Peter in front of the other disciples = LOUDLY and Openly for all to hear

JESUS rebuked Peter and said: "Get behind me satan for you care not for the things of God but of men"

When Thomas said: "my Lord and my God", he declared the TRUTH and therefore no rebuke or correction from JESUS
Of course there is no rebuke and correction from JESUS .
But it sure seems many men WOULD DO ALL TO , have done all to , try and REBUKE JESUS HIMSELF
to call GOD a liar , the son a liar and their men AS TRUE who twisted this nonsense unto them in the first place .
But now i want to remind us of something .
And though it will highly anger this generation
MEN GONNA DO AS MEN DO
SHEEP GONNA DO AS JESUS SAID TO DO . and there JUST is no middle ground , no trying to play both sides .
Cause , WELL GOD WONT BE DECIEVED , they are , BUT NOT GOD . men love what they love
and man i sure did love much evil once myself . but sheep love TRUTH friend . THEY love GOD , CHRIST , TRUTH and not a lie
BUT PRAISE BE TO GOD , HE KNOWS HOW TO SAVE and TO CHANGE the heart of man .
This other jesus sure dont , this other lovey do god sure dont , all it knows
to do is Serve and please the flesh of man in order toget the worship of man .
NOW WHO DO THAT SOUND LIKE . a hint not GOD
but rather He who desired and still desires tobe AS GOD .
 
Again, as is your custom, the tradition of this world's religious system you have adopted that I pointed out in my post. You take one scripture out of the Christ's Message through Jeremiah, separate it from the rest of the Bible, and complete ignore what the Message actually is.

Here, let's post what is actually written and then enter into a discussion about why the Holy One of Israel had this written for my admonition, in my time on earth, upon whom the ends of the world have come.

Jer. 10: 1 Hear ye the word which the LORD (Who Became Flesh and Blood in the person of Jesus ) speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4 They deck it with silver and with gold; "they fasten it with nails and with hammers", that it move not.

5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.

6 Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O LORD; thou art great, and thy name is great in might.

7 Who would not fear thee, O King of nations? for to thee doth it appertain: forasmuch as among all the wise men of the nations, and in all their kingdoms, there is none like unto thee.

8 But they are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities.

9 Silver spread into plates is brought from Tarshish, and gold from Uphaz, the work of the workman, and of the hands of the founder: blue and purple is their clothing: they are all the work of cunning men.

10 But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.

Now I will ask you a question and see if you will answer.

Has the Christ, the Holy One of Israel, who became a mortal man in the person of Jesus, who was killed be men professing to know God, raised from the Dead, and ascended to His Father, returned to this earth in His Wrath?

Or is this prophesy yet to be fulfilled?
Has the Christ, the Holy One of Israel, who became a mortal man in the person of Jesus, who was killed be men professing to know God, raised from the Dead, and ascended to His Father, returned to this earth in His Wrath?

Or is this prophesy yet to be fulfilled?
Crystal CLEAR = Revelation 19 = Both fulfilled and to be to be fulfilled = "at His Coming"

Which part is fulfilled?
Which part to be fulfilled?
 
Crystal CLEAR = Revelation 19 = Both fulfilled and to be to be fulfilled = "at His Coming"

Which part is fulfilled?
Which part to be fulfilled?
For we see not yet all things put under Him .
The part that has been fullfilled is easy to see , WHY HE has ascended into heaven seated at the right hand of the Father .
THE WRATH has not yet been revealed .
BUT SURE WILL at THE REVELATION OF JESUS THE CHRIST . and that day SURE SEEMS to be a drawing quite nigh indeed .
 
Crystal CLEAR = Revelation 19 = Both fulfilled and to be to be fulfilled = "at His Coming"

Which part is fulfilled?
Which part to be fulfilled?

See what I mean David? You completely ignore the Christ's Message through Jeremiah. You continue as if I didn't even post them. This is the tradition of this world's religious system that I spoke to.

He came as a Lamb to the Slaughter, in His First coming. This prophesy is fulfilled.

He comes the second time, not as a Lamb to the Slaughter, as your refenced Rev. 19 teaches. This is not yet fulfilled.
 
@Studyman
Why not stop walking in the course of this world and live by Every Word of the Holy One of Israel, who God, His Father, sent into this world.
Why do you not answer his question?

Studyman, you can boast all day long about you desire to walk and obey God and it means not one thing, if you reject that Jesus Christ is the True God and eternal life! Jesus Christ was a complex person, fully God, and fully man. He is the only God that man or angels as far as that goes, shall ever see. You have clearly more than once denied that God manifest in human flesh in the person of Jesus Christ ~Jesus Christ was the Word in the beginning that was God without any qualifications "whatsoever"! He was "NOT" the Son in beginning, BUT GOD, period! Jesus Christ was God, but God WAS NOT Jesus Christ! The great mystery of godliness without controversy.

Here is your chance, please in a few word state you understanding of the Godhead. Your confession will say whether anyone should continue to even consider a word you have to say. What saith thou?
 
@JLB
I apologize for not being more clear.
No problem, but I will say this, whether coming from me, you or the next person, inconsistency or the lack of ability to clearly express one's beliefs is the hallmark of error being present.
Faith comes to us from God, by hearing Him speak (communicate) to us.

So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17
This is correct and you will not find me disagreeing with you ~what you will find, is that we teach as the scriptures reveals, that only a regenerated person has this power to gain faith in the doctrines of the scriptures, and this means comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. The gospel is our source of information concerning the mystery of the revelation of Jesus Christ. The gospel does not bring spiritual life to us, it will manifest where there is life, and where there is death as well.

2 Timothy 1:9,10​

“Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:"
By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith. Hebrews 11:7


God spoke to (warned) Noah about the coming flood upon the earth.

Noah responded in obedience.
I agree, but then again, Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord "first", and his fear and faith and obedience proved that he had spiritual life, they were not the means of obtaining life.

I must step out for a few...later.
 
See what I mean David? You completely ignore the Christ's Message through Jeremiah. You continue as if I didn't even post them. This is the tradition of this world's religious system that I spoke to.

He came as a Lamb to the Slaughter, in His First coming. This prophesy is fulfilled.

He comes the second time, not as a Lamb to the Slaughter, as your refenced Rev. 19 teaches. This is not yet fulfilled.
i had to leave for God says "if a man doe snot work he shall not eat"
 
He came as a Lamb to the Slaughter, in His First coming. This prophesy is fulfilled.

He comes the second time, not as a Lamb to the Slaughter, as your refenced Rev. 19 teaches. This is not yet fulfilled.
i gave you a "thumbs UP" for this

No, i have not and do not ignore the words of the prophet Jeremiah.
 
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