Does The Virgin Birth Matter?

[e v e]

Who made it then?

s e l a h

adam and the fallen ones, when adam left God and went to them. This is recounted in hieroglyphs. The lucifer chapter in isaiah is about adam, who did not die but will soon.

 

[e v e]

the term for soul in hebrew is npsh... so the soul does have its sex male or female in eden since npsh also refers to the eden body before the fall (and not the current one).

 

[e v e]

Post in thread 'The Hypostatic Union- the 2 Natures in Christ'

Yesterday at 9:23 PM

Ye will be gods are you a Mormon ?

You can attain Deity.

Yikes

understand Nature.

everything growing on this earth is IN fallen nature, not God's

everything in eden after He restores us to His type nature has His signature

deity is a nature not a synonym for God.
This is why the sons can rule with Christ


i know the lds though believe in the nature here in the fallen satanic physicality is somehow made by God (gross and wrong!) so their view of (satanic) nature is not related to what i write above.

• e v e

mary was in this same fallen body (sin nature) as we.

 

[Jim]

Who made it then?

s e l a h

Parents. God did not create our flesh. He did create the process by which our flesh is produced. And God did create (form) our spirits which He gives to each of us individually.

 

[Jim]

the term for soul in hebrew is npsh... so the soul does have its sex male or female in eden since npsh also refers to the eden body before the fall (and not the current one).

Why not the current one?

 

[Selah]

adam and the fallen ones, when adam left God and went to them. This is recounted in hieroglyphs. The lucifer chapter in isaiah is about adam, who did not die but will soon.

Huh?

 

[Selah]

the term for soul in hebrew is npsh... so the soul does have its sex male or female in eden since npsh also refers to the eden body before the fall (and not the current one).

Huh?

Why not the current one?

Who made Adam?

 

[Selah]

Jeremiah 1:5 (NKJV) “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you; Before you were born I sanctified you; I ordained you a prophet to the nations.”

 

[Selah]

Psalms 139:13-16 (NKJV) 13 For You formed my inward parts; You covered me in my mother’s womb. 14 I will praise You, for I am fearfully [and] wonderfully made; Marvelous are Your works, And [that] my soul knows very well. 15 My frame was not hidden from You, When I was made in secret, [And] skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. 16 Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed. And in Your book they all were written, The days fashioned for me, When [as yet there were] none of them.

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

Who made it then?

s e l a h

And God made man of the dirt and breathed into his nostrils ..........
Yes my friend GOD made these bodies .
And since the days of adam and of eve and the great trangression
death has come upon all , for all have sinned .
BUT PRAISE GOD , for as man came death , by the man CHRIST JESUS cometh LIFE eternal unto all who do beleive .
Onward in the LORD my friend .

 

[Selah]

It’s a shame that some people will not study and get their knowledge from the Word of God.

s e l a h

 

[Jim]

Huh?

Who made Adam?

God. But God didn't make you are me in the flesh. He did, however, make the spirits that he gave (formed) you and me.

 

[Jim]

And God made man of the dirt and breathed into his nostrils ..........
Yes my friend GOD made these bodies .
And since the days of adam and of eve and the great trangression
death has come upon all , for all have sinned .
BUT PRAISE GOD , for as man came death , by the man CHRIST JESUS cometh LIFE eternal unto all who do beleive .
Onward in the LORD my friend .

Physical death did not and does not come by sin. Physical death is inherent in this physical universe.

 

[Selah]

God. But God didn't make you are me in the flesh. He did, however, make the spirits that he gave (formed) you and me.

Sure He did. Did you not read the scriptures I provided above? Read them again. …and again, Who made Adam?

Who made a cell, for that matter?

Acts 17:28 (NKJV) “for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also His offspring.’

 

[Dizerner]

Parents. God did not create our flesh. He did create the process by which our flesh is produced. And God did create (form) our spirits which He gives to each of us individually.

I understand what you are saying, but this is I think very imprecise.

When we say all things are created by God, we mean without exception—there is no thing which was not created by God.

So God did in fact create our flesh, and also the process by which the flesh is produced.

 

[Dizerner]

Physical death did not and does not come by sin. Physical death is inherent in this physical universe.

Wow, that is just directly against Scripture.

Death is not an inherently good thing, and that is why Christ defeats it in the end.

 

[Jim]

Sure He did. Did you not read the scriptures I provided above? Read them again. …and again, Who made Adam?

Who made a cell, for that matter?

Acts 17:28 (NKJV) “for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also His offspring.’

Spiritual, not physical!!

 

[Selah]

Spiritual, not physical!!

I’m trying to understand your thinking, Jim. Are you now saying that the Creator of the universe doesn’t create physical things?

 

[DavidTree]

The doctrine of the virgin birth teaches that Jesus Christ was born of a virgin. That is, when Mary conceived Jesus, she had never had sexual intercourse. Jesus’ birth, therefore, was truly miraculous.

Some progressive Christians would have us believe that it wouldn’t be a big deal if we discovered “Jesus had an earthly father named Larry.” So what is the big deal about the virgin birth? Why does it matter?

The Bible teaches the preexistence of the eternal Son of God. In Isaiah 9:6, the child who is “born” is also the son who is “given.” In like manner, Galatians 4:4 also teaches the preexistence and virgin birth of Christ: “God sent His Son, born of a woman.” The virgin birth is important because that was the means by which “the Word became flesh” (John 1:14). The incarnation is when the eternal Son of God took on human flesh; without losing any of His divine nature, He added a human nature. That miraculous, history-changing event took place in the Virgin Mary’s womb.

The virgin birth of Jesus is an example of God’s gracious work on our behalf. God took the initiative—Mary was not looking to become pregnant—it was all God’s idea. Joseph had no role in the conception—his body was not involved—so the power had to come from God. In a similar way, our salvation is based solely on God’s initiative and God’s power—we did not seek God, but He sought us; and we did nothing to earn our salvation, but we rely on God’s power. got?

#1 - It was absolutely imperative, without any exceptions, that Mary was a virgin who "never knew a man"

#2 - The Bible does not teach the pre-existence of a eternal Son.

# 3 - The Holy Scriptures are DIRECT in confirming that the Word was God(Elohim) from the Beginning.

Genesis 1:1-3 = John 1:1

When the Word became flesh is the moment that Elohim became a man = the only Begotten of the FATHER(who also is ELohim).

 

[DavidTree]

I feel murdered every time i speak
in these types of forums..
for they do not CARE about God
only about the own selfproud opinions.

We love you.

There are some with "self-proud opinions" and others who are just un-informed because they rely on man.

the scroll is corrupt. the prince of peace is not God, not Christ...
and the virgin birth concept's a corruption.

How did you come to this???