Dishonoring the bodily sacrifice of Jesus Christ in Calvinism

[Presby02]

Um, the high Priest's offering was for all.

Those, your theology would consider elect and non elect

All of Israel, yup. Not the whole world

 

[Presby02]

Are you seriously saying that we're still in OT times? If you're a Gentile, you're in a very serious situation my friend.

Is that what I said? LOL

 

[TomL]

All of Israel, yup. Not the whole world

All Israel was not saved

did you fail to realize this is contrary to your theology

 

[Presby02]

All Israel was not saved

did you fail to realize this is contrary to your theology

No one said they were. You do realize that right?

 

[brightfame52]

Christ died for all and it is believers he redeems

you dont believe in the redeeming efficaciousness 'of His Death. Look at what it does Titus 2:14

14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

To not believe it or deny it is dishonoring to the Sacrifice of Christ !

 

[brightfame52]

Christ died for all and it is believers he redeems

Sinners are redeemed from all iniquity/disobedience and made into believers, obedient

 

[synergy]

Is that what I said? LOL

I highlighted what you said. As a Gentile, you're in a very serious situation my friend.

 

[civic]

I highlighted what you said. As a Gentile, you're in a very serious situation my friend.

a big OOPS- no salvation since its all Israel in question from the context.

 

[civic]

All of Israel, yup. Not the whole world

that leaves all gentiles out, so much for your interpretation lol.

 

[Presby02]

that leaves all gentiles out, so much for your interpretation lol.

Unless they were prostylites, yup.

 

[Presby02]

I highlighted what you said. As a Gentile, you're in a very serious situation my friend.

Ya, okay, thanks.

Good talk

 

[TomL]

Sinners are redeemed from all iniquity/disobedience and made into believers, obedient

Not found anywhere in scripture.

Believer are redeemed

 

[TomL]

you dont believe in the redeeming efficaciousness 'of His Death. Look at what it does Titus 2:14

14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

To not believe it or deny it is dishonoring to the Sacrifice of Christ !

I do not believe your twisting of scripture

The us of Titus are believers and they partake of those blessings only in Christ

Your theology rejects Christ as the fountainhead of salvation

 

[brightfame52]

Not found anywhere in scripture.

Believer are redeemed

Sinners are redeemed from all iniquity/disobedience and made into believers, obedient

 

[TomL]

Sinners are redeemed from all iniquity/disobedience and made into believers, obedient

Not found anywhere in scripture

Believers are redeemed from lawlessness

 

[brightfame52]

Not found anywhere in scripture

Believers are redeemed from lawlessness

Sinners are redeemed from all iniquity/disobedience and made into believers, obedient Tirus 2:14

 

[TomL]

Sinners are redeemed from all iniquity/disobedience and made into believers, obedient Tirus 2:14

Not found anywhere in scripture

Believers are redeemed from lawlessness

 

[synergy]

Ya, okay, thanks.

Good talk

Sure. Anytime. I love putting all weakly thought out calvinist heresies to rest.

 

[brightfame52]

Not found anywhere in scripture

Believers are redeemed from lawlessness

Sinners are redeemed from all iniquity/disobedience and made into believers, obedient Titus 2:14

 

[TomL]

Sure. Anytime. I love putting all weakly thought out calvinist heresies to rest.

Amen