Defending Universal Reconciliation

brightfame52 said:
Does God hate these sinners ?

Did God hate these sinners Rom 5:8

8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Yes or No
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Is Romans 5:8 the only verse you know?

My children once did this to me. They'd pick one single phrase I made in a sentence as "wedge" point to try to convince me I told them to do something I didn't tell them to do.....

You're acting like a petulant child that endlessly insist they are right by "latching on" to a single phrase without any context of why it was spoken.

So NO... I don't answer simple "YES OR NO" questions without dealing with context.
 
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civic said:
Thats what David said- where did god say that ?

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David also said....

Psa 37:25 I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.

I asked a fundamentalist one time why Psalm 37:25 contradicted what happened to Lazarus????......

That fundamentalist loved to quote Psalm 37:25......

You should have seen his face. One of his friends said.... "I guess David never saw Lazarus"....... and he was right. David only knew what David knew.
 
civic said:
Thats what David said- where did god say that ?

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Does God hate or love these sinners ? Ps 5:5

5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Yes or No

Was David telling the Truth of God Yes or No
 
praise_yeshua said:
Is Romans 5:8 the only verse you know?

My children once did this to me. They'd pick one single phrase I made in a sentence as "wedge" point to try to convince me I told them to do something I didn't tell them to do.....

You're acting like a petulant child that endlessly insist they are right by "latching on" to a single phrase without any context of why it was spoken.

So NO... I don't answer simple "YES OR NO" questions without dealing with context.
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Does God hate these sinners ? Rom 5:8

8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
 
brightfame52 said:
Does God hate or love these sinners ? Ps 5:5

5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Yes or No

Was David telling the Truth of God Yes or No
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Did Jesus who is God say to love your enemies and pray for them ? yes or no

Thats impossible for you to reconcile but not for me. :)

Your doctrine traps you which is why you isolate that one passage from all the other scriptures that oppose your view.

I have quoted dozens upon dozens of verses saying God loves all sinners, everyone, all men and made atonement for everyone.

hope this helps !!!
 
civic said:
Did Jesus who is God say to love your enemies and pray for them ? yes or no

Thats impossible for you to reconcile but not for me. :)

Your doctrine traps you which is why you isolate that one passage from all the other scriptures that oppose your view.

I have quoted dozens upon dozens of verses saying God loves all sinners, everyone, all men and made atonement for everyone.

hope this helps !!!
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Does God hate or love these sinners ? Ps 5:5

5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Yes or No

Was David telling the Truth of God Yes or No
 
brightfame52 said:
Does God hate or love these sinners ? Ps 5:5

5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Yes or No

Was David telling the Truth of God Yes or No
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God hates all forms of evil/wickedness.

Were you ever a sinner, wicked and did evil in the sight of God ? yes or no

lets see if you dodge the question or give an honest answer.

hope this helps !!!
 
brightfame52 said:
Does God hate these sinners ? Rom 5:8

8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
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Repeating yourself changes nothing.

What did Jesus say...?

Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

You don't realize it but Jesus was talking about His own actions.

Jesus loved those that cursed Him. Jesus did GOOD to those that rejected Him.

You are in direct opposition to what Jesus taught. You only care about your own. This fact is reflected in your damnable theology.
 
praise_yeshua said:
Repeating yourself changes nothing.

What did Jesus say...?

Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

You don't realize it but Jesus was talking about His own actions.

Jesus loved those that cursed Him. Jesus did GOOD to those that rejected Him.

You are in direct opposition to what Jesus taught. You only care about your own. This fact is reflected in your damnable theology.
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Amen to the TRUTH !!!
 
civic said:
God hates all forms of evil/wickedness.

Were you ever a sinner, wicked and did evil in the sight of God ? yes or no

lets see if you dodge the question or give an honest answer.

hope this helps !!!
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Does God hate or love these sinners ? Ps 5:5

5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Yes or No

Was David telling the Truth of God Yes or No
 
praise_yeshua said:
Repeating yourself changes nothing.

What did Jesus say...?

Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

You don't realize it but Jesus was talking about His own actions.

Jesus loved those that cursed Him. Jesus did GOOD to those that rejected Him.

You are in direct opposition to what Jesus taught. You only care about your own. This fact is reflected in your damnable theology.
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Does God hate these sinners ? Rom 5:8

8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
 
brightfame52 said:
Does God hate these sinners ? Rom 5:8

8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
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So you want more?

Act 17:25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
Act 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
Act 17:27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
Heb 11:32 And what shall I more say?
Luk_6:32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.

Luk_7:34 The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!

Luk_7:34 The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!

Luk 13:4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
Luk 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Jas 4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
 
praise_yeshua said:
So you want more?

Act 17:25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
Act 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
Act 17:27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
Heb 11:32 And what shall I more say?
Luk_6:32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.

Luk_7:34 The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!

Luk_7:34 The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!

Luk 13:4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
Luk 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Jas 4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
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You have two sets of sinners, workers of iniquity, Now God Loves one set Rom 5:8

8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Then we have a set that God hates Ps 5:5

5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

Now is their a difference in the disposition of God towards these sinners ? Yes or No and then explain please
 

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