In the Greek lexicons a god is in all of them. At least 20 translations in history by Greek scholars has a god at John 1:1= it is correct. 2 Cor 4:4 proves it. The word at John 1:1 is given the same exact word as satan is at 2 Cor 4:4--While the one being called God got a totally different word. So explain to us all how the same word is translated God at one spot and god at another spot? Reality= both spots translate-god.
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Not legalistic beliefs-Gods truth=1Cor 10:21--One cannot partake off his table if they partake off the table of demons. Satan beat 99% living now centuries ago. Like this-2Cor 11:12-15.
atpollard
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Was Jesus born? Did GOD become a man?
Is it not right to celebrate that fact?
Did Jesus die? Did He rise from the dead? Does the fact that God Incarnate died and rose from the dead change EVERYTHING?!
Is it not right to celebrate that fact?
Romans 14:5-10 [NASB]
One person regards one day above another, another regards every day [alike.] Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God. For not one of us lives for himself, and not one dies for himself; for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord; therefore whether we live or die, we are the Lord's. For to this end Christ died and lived again, that He might be Lord both of the dead and of the living. But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you regard your brother with contempt? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.
Amen.
Is it not right to celebrate that fact?
Did Jesus die? Did He rise from the dead? Does the fact that God Incarnate died and rose from the dead change EVERYTHING?!
Is it not right to celebrate that fact?
Romans 14:5-10 [NASB]
One person regards one day above another, another regards every day [alike.] Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God. For not one of us lives for himself, and not one dies for himself; for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord; therefore whether we live or die, we are the Lord's. For to this end Christ died and lived again, that He might be Lord both of the dead and of the living. But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you regard your brother with contempt? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.
Amen.
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DavidTree
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"In the Greek lexicons.........blah blah blah"
How about the TRUTH - will you believe the TRUTH???
Before Me there was no God formed,
Nor shall there be after Me.
I, even I, am the Lord,
And besides Me there is no Savior.
The above passage of Holy Scripture is from Isaiah ch43.
Does God say HE will create a smaller 'god' then Himself to save you from your sins???
a.) YES
b.) NO
Remember what the LORD says: let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’
For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.
I'll let Faithful David teach you.
Ps. 119: 171 My lips shall utter praise, when thou hast taught me thy (God's) statutes.
172 My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy (God's) commandments are righteousness.
173 Let thine hand help me; for I have chosen thy (God's) precepts.
174 I have longed for thy (God's) salvation, O LORD; and thy (God's) law is my delight.
I can't find where Jesus or His Faithful followers created an image of God in the likeness of some random handsome man, and then created their own high days in worship of this image, while rejecting the Feasts of the Lord, and His Judgments. Israel did this with the golden calf, "as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink and rose up to play". But it didn't seem like the Rock, the Holy One of Israel was pleased with this behavior.
Men are free to engage in any kind of behavior they want, and truly it is the custom of this world's religions to go about establishing their own righteousness, while refusing to submit to the righteousness of God.
Is this the right thing to do? I'm not sure Jesus would approve of such behavior and certainly HIS Father wouldn't approve. I don't condemn or hate those who reject God's judgment concerning what is Holy and what is not, and instead adopt the religious traditions of this world. But for myself and our family, we trust God to define for us HIS Holy days, just as Jesus did. It seems that this position is unpopular with this world's religions, and certainly the merchants of the earth would not support it either, nevertheless, we have enjoyed a great freedom from considering the Truth of these man-made high days, and I recommend not adopting them for anyone who loves God and HIS Son, who He sent for us.
Rom. 6: 12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments "of unrighteousness" unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
Isn't that the whole purpose of David and Paul's, and the Jesus "of the bible" Words?
DavidTree
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What is the definition of "God's righteousness" given to us in the New Covenant?
Post 29 is about those who have been Redeemed by the Blood of the Lamb and know God and are submitted unto Him.
There is nothing in God's Promise or definition of His New Covenant, where His Righteousness was prophesied to change between the Old and New Covenants. Only the Priesthood, in that it would no longer be necessary to go find a human Priest to define His righteousness for us, or provide for the forgiveness of our sins, as HE would write His Righteousness, AKA, His Commandments, Statutes, Precepts and Laws on the hearts of His People, like HE did for His Son, the Jesus "of the Bible". And HE will forgive sins apart from the Old Priesthood. John teaches that this is how we can know for sure if we truly "know Him" or not in "God's" New Covenant.
1 John 2: 3 And hereby "we do know that we know him", if we keep his commandments.
Jesus confirms this about Himself.
John 10: 37 If I do not the works "of my Father", believe me not.
38 But if I do, "though ye believe not me", believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that "the Father" is in me, and I in him.
This is how we know, according to Scriptures, in the NEW Covenant, if we are of the Body of Christ, or just another of the "many" who "Profess they know God, but by works deny Him".
The Jesus "of the Bible" instructs to live by "Every Word of God", therefore it seems prudent to "consider" every Word, as there are "many" who call Jesus Lord, Lord, but do not Submit themselves unto the Righteousness of God. And Jesus said HE doesn't know men who engage in this way of life. I would hate to be in the same shoes as those "Christians" in Matt. 7, especially given that their Time to submit was over, they had the Oracles of God in their own homes, but didn't believe them.
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DavidTree
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the old covenant has been replaced with the NEW Covenant = Jeremiah 31:31-34
“Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 32not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, [h]though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. 33But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”
Acts 13:34-41 World Messianic Bible
“Concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he has spoken thus: ‘I will give you the holy and sure blessings of David.’* Therefore he says also in another psalm, ‘You will not allow your Holy One to see decay.’* For David, after he had in his own generation served the counsel of God, fell asleep, was laid with his fathers, and saw decay. But he whom God raised up saw no decay. Be it known to you therefore, brothers, that through this man is proclaimed to you remission of sins; and
by him everyone who believes is justified from all things,
from which you could not be justified by the Torah of Moses.
Even angels are called gods-Psalm 82:6
small g god means has godlike qualities, it is NOT calling them God.
I am (YHVH(Jehovah) and beside me there is no savior))-- Jesus did not become savior until successful completion of the ransom sacrifice. So at that point in Isaiah Jehovah was the only savior.
Psalm 83:18--That people may know, that you, whose name is YHVH(Jehovah) you alone are the most high over all the earth.))))-- you, not we.
So yes, how about the truth?
Its unacceptable to try and add pagan false god worship practices to anything of Gods. The world Jesus said to be no part of did exactly that.
God warned you all-1Cor 10:21
DavidTree
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TRUTH always remains TRUTH and does not change.
Before Me there was no God formed,
Nor shall there be after Me.
I, even I, am the Lord,
And besides Me there is no Savior.
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever = the Savior of Prophecy
dwight92070
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False - Jesus was our Savior, even at His birth, according to the angel of the Lord. Luke 2:10-11
In real translation-YHVH(Jehovah) is at the passage you quoted, not the title LORD. If you look close-its LORD in your bible not Lord. Jerome removed Gods name in his Latin Vulgate and replaced it with the titles-GOD or LORD all capitols= against Gods will by satans will to mislead as it is doing to you.
He wouldn't have been savior if he failed. So he obviously was not yet a savior at his birth. His completion of the ransom sacrifice made him a savior. He could have gave in to satan in the wilderness and failed. But he didn't. Satan wouldn't have wasted his time trying if there was no chance of failure. Jesus was a perfect mortal with free will. The same as Adam was. Adam failed, so could have Jesus.
Rockson
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Well let's say this 25th Day of December has been painted by the world a certain way. We don't like the type of paint of which they painted the day. So what wrong with Christians taking the day and painting it to be a thing which reflects their faith? Surely you're not saying anti-Christ forces OWN the day we can't touch it or do anything with it ourselves?
Ps 23 says Goodness and mercy shall follow us ALL the days of our lives.....that Dec 25th is A DAY. Your writing almost make it seem like it's a day of darkness. So we can't take that day and add some color to it and fun and we can't have a good celebration FOR OUR good reason. So it seems you've surrendered the day to people with a different world view then you. Why do you let them steal it from you? Consider it's your day too! How about not giving up what you don't need to be giving up!
Why do they need to be "Justified"? Is it not because they sinned against the God and Father of the Lord's Christ, as all men have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God? And what system did God put in place to provide for the remission of Sins through Moses? He established a "Priesthood Covenant" with Levi, AKA "The Levitical Priesthood". Men received God's instruction in righteousness (Laws), and forgiveness of sin were provided for under this priesthood and the burnt offerings and sacrifices for sins under it. But it was prophesied to change, and a New Priesthood order was promised "after those days". Hebrews 7-10 explain this perfectly.
Heb. 10: 1 For the (Priesthood) law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. 2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. 3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
So even though the sacrifices were prescribed for the remission of sins, it was never the "blood" of goats and bulls that justified them. This is what was understood in Acts pertaining to the remission of Sin.
that through this man ( Priest after the Order of Melchizedek) is proclaimed to you remission of sins; and
by him everyone who believes is justified from all things,
from which you could not be justified by the Torah of Moses. (burnt offering and sacrifices for sins)
5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, "Sacrifice and offering" thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin "thou wouldest not", neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered "by the law"; (Levitical Pristood)
9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, (Priesthood Covenant "After the Order of Aaron") that he may establish the second. (Priesthood after the Order of Melchizedek)
All Scripture is Inspired by God. It is therefore necessary to consider what the Scriptures actually teach.
As it is written;
Heb. 7: 9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.
10 For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.
11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
These Words mean something.
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