Are we told to worship Jesus or are we told to worship God?

No one really should. At times we might feel we have a favorite but really what God has spoke to us today by using scripture really for that day becomes the favorite. That's how it is for me.
Hello Rockson,

What is reminded is when Paul told the people at Rome.

Romans 15:4 For whatever was written in former days was written for our instruction, that through endurance and through the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.

While this a call to old testament, its still good to find hope through the apostolic record to, I believe.
 
I've asked others this. So you're saying it's crucial to express and say the actual word, or name Yahweh? And what is the meaning of Yahweh?
Rockson,

Its up the individual, if I choose to it doesnt mean someone else has to follow along. Do you know the meaning of Yahweh? I have heard Jehovah means destroyer, i never looked into. Yahava is expression of breathing in and breathing out (as He is the life giver.)
 
The four gospels are really interesting to go through. I have never had a favorite.
I’m the opposite. Whenever I re-read one, it seems I have a new favorite Gospel. :geek:
 
We all agree I'm sure everything is needed.

Thing of the gospels.....Matthew is filled with the in depth teaching of parables similar to Luke. John has a lean on the subject of eternal life. Mark's good if one wants a quick read of having gone through a gospel I like on line where people have narrated it LIVE in front of an audience. I think all my like Max McLean doing so and he adds some humor to it in how he expresses what the disciples would say or how they'd say it.

 
Clever, and well said, Wrangler.
What I love is the similarities and differences among the Gospels. Regarding the differences:
  • Matthew: Fulfillment of Prophecy
  • Mark: The action oriented Messiah
  • Luke: Eye Witness History
  • John: The poetic hearts of the Lord God and the Lord Messiah.
 
Some people believe we are to worship Jesus, some people believe we are to worship God? Does the bible tell us anything about which one should be worshipped? What are your reasons you either worship Jesus or worship God, and is there any biblical reasonings to look at?
Any intelligent and satisfactory answer to the question must be based upon the Scriptural Record of Christ. If on that basis, Christ is worthy of admiration. He is likewise worthy of adoration. He should be both respected and worshipped or neither respected nor worshipped. The Modernists accuse our Lord of the crime of the Antichrist who, is to sit in the temple of God and show himself as God. He is to be destroyed for this crime. Jesus Christ made this claim. If not God. He was guilty of blasphemy and worthy of death.

Christ is mentioned by noun and pronoun about seven thousand times in the New Testament Scriptures. The same supernatural story is woven into every part of those Scriptures. After studying these twenty-seven records, we should decide that the Jews of the first century who took up stones to stone Him, “because thou being a man makest thyself God,” were far more consistent than are the Modernist Jews and so-called Modernist Christians of the twentieth century who join with Judas to betray Christ with a kiss. John 10:30 to 38. Read about them in Jude 4 and II Peter 2:1—III John 7.

Without the Scriptures I know not what I think. By the Scriptures I think that Christ was, and is, Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, everlasting Father; that He was in the form of God and took upon Himself the form of a servant; that He was with God; that He was God. I think that all things were created by Him; that He is before all things, and by Him all things consist. I think that in Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily; that in Him are hid the treasures of wisdom and knowledge; that in all things He should have the pre-eminence; that when the Father brought Him into the world, He said, “let all the angels of God worship Him,” and the Father said to the Son, “Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever.” My thinking is based upon the following Scriptures Isaiah 9:6 . . . Philippians 2:5 to 9 . . . John 1:1 to 10 . . . Ephesians 3:9 . . . Colossians 1:15 to 19 . . . Colossians 2:3 to 9 . . . Hebrews 1:1 to 8 . . . . Because Christ had glory with the Father before the world was, He could truly say, “I and Father are one,” “he that hath seen me hath seen the Father.”

Every one should either bow before Christ, with Thomas, and: say, “My Lord and My God,” and sing with men and angels, “worthy is the Lamb that Was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory and blessing,” or else discredit and reject the only written story of Jesus Christ as a fable or a forgery, and confess that there is no authentic document that can be examined for an intelligent answer to the question. John 17:5 . . . John 10:30 . . . John 14:9 . . . John 20:28 . . . Revelation 5:12.


It certainly would not be the mark of intelligence to hand the New Testament Scriptures over to the religious modern scholars of this age and tell them to separate truth from fiction; for we would find the Christ of their creation more impossible than the Christ they reject. You have only to read “The Man Nobody Knows” to be convinced of this fact.

The Christ of orthodox Christianity is truly the Christ of the Scriptures, the only true Christ, the only Christ who could communicate saving grace to the sinner. He had power to lay down His life and take it up again. Only the Holy Spirit can enable us to answer the first question aright. Only the Christ of the Bible could bring sinners to God by His shed blood. And it is by His precious blood that believing sinners are saved. Ephesians 2:13; I Peter 1:18 to 21.

Despising the grace of God, it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 10:28 to 33.

Now for the second question:

“WHAT SHALL I DO THEN WITH JESUS WHICH IS CALLED CHRIST?” MATTHEW 7:22.

“Christ died for our sins.” He was delivered for our offenses and raised again for our justification.” “The Lord hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all.” Before His death, the Saviour said, “the good Shepherd giveth His life for the sheep.” The Son of man came to give His life a ransom for many. “Neither is there salvation in any other.” . . . I Corinthians 15:3 . . . Romans 4:24 . . . Isaiah 53:6 . . . John 10:11 . . . Mark 10:45 . . . Acts 4:12.

“God commandeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, CHRIST DIED FOR US.” Romans 5:8.

Are you not moved to action because of this sacrifice of love?

“God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth on Him. should not perish but have everlasting life.”

Surely this should move you to act quickly. You should act, for two reasons; first, because of God’s great love. He has done something with Christ, for your sake and mine. Christ suffered an awful penalty, obediently and willingly, for us. That love is enough to constrain us to action. But secondly, we should act immediately, because of the awful penalty, the terrific judgment awaiting all who refuse to act. “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.” Acts 16:31. “He that believeth on the Son is not condemned; but he that believeth not condemned already because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” John 3:18.

I must act favorably, or be lost and condemned forever. I have acted. I have accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as my own personal Saviour. Have you? If not, why not? If not up to now, why not now?
 
Some people believe we are to worship Jesus, some people believe we are to worship God? Does the bible tell us anything about which one should be worshipped? What are your reasons you either worship Jesus or worship God, and is there any biblical reasonings to look at?

It's pretty clear to me, at least according to Scriptures, that the Jesus "of the Bible" tells men to worship God His Father, who HE Himself said was Greater than He, who HE Himself calls the One True God we are to know, for eternal life, that the Scriptures say Jesus is sitting at the Right Hand of, advocating between His Father and mankind even now.

This same Jesus said to "Seek ye first the Kingdom of this One True God, and "HIS" Righteousness", and that there is only One who is "Good", that is God His Father, and that to Enter Life, we are to obey the Commandments of this God who sent this same Jesus "of the Bible" to us.

As it is also written;

Eph. 4: 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

This same Jesus "of the Bible" said;

John 6: 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. 45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught "of God". Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of "the Father", cometh unto me.

But as Jesus and the Prophets, and the Apostles warned over and over, there are also "many" men who call this Jesus Lord, Lord, who come in His Name, who "profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate."

The Jesus of the Bible said to take Heed of these "many" who come in His Name, that we are not deceived by them.

Great question Matt, and one certainly relevant for our times.
 
It's pretty clear to me, at least according to Scriptures, that the Jesus "of the Bible" tells men to worship God His Father, who HE Himself said was Greater than He, who HE Himself calls the One True God we are to know, for eternal life, that the Scriptures say Jesus is sitting at the Right Hand of, advocating between His Father and mankind even now.

This same Jesus said to "Seek ye first the Kingdom of this One True God, and "HIS" Righteousness", and that there is only One who is "Good", that is God His Father, and that to Enter Life, we are to obey the Commandments of this God who sent this same Jesus "of the Bible" to us.

As it is also written;

Eph. 4: 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

This same Jesus "of the Bible" said;

John 6: 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. 45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught "of God". Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of "the Father", cometh unto me.

But as Jesus and the Prophets, and the Apostles warned over and over, there are also "many" men who call this Jesus Lord, Lord, who come in His Name, who "profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate."

The Jesus of the Bible said to take Heed of these "many" who come in His Name, that we are not deceived by them.

Great question Matt, and one certainly relevant for our times.
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Christians worship God.

The Bible teaches the Lord Jesus Christ is God manifest in the flesh (1 Tim 3:16).

Biblical Christians believe Jesus is God, and worship him as God.

Nevertheless, there are teachers who call themselves Christians and read from Bibles that diminish or deny the deity of Christ. Avoid them.

There is no true doctrine that makes Christ any less than God at all times.


If Christ was just a man, then he was not God.
If Christ was created by God then he could not be God.
If Christ putting on humanity diminishes his deity, then he is no longer God.
If Christ could not exercise every attribute of God at all times then he was never fully God.

If Christ is not God then the Bible is wrong; Christianity is a farce; and there is no salvation from sin.

If Christ is not God, then our faith is vain at best and sinful at worst.

Christ is God, and has always been God.

“For in [Christ] dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.” – Col 2:9

The less Christ is God, the less Christian you are.

For His glory,

Justin “in Christ” Johnson

Just a thought.
And if this is true-Messiah is worthy to receive our highest eulogies and worship.
 
It's pretty clear to me, at least according to Scriptures, that the Jesus "of the Bible" tells men to worship God His Father, who HE Himself said was Greater than He, who HE Himself calls the One True God we are to know, for eternal life, that the Scriptures say Jesus is sitting at the Right Hand of, advocating between His Father and mankind even now.

This same Jesus said to "Seek ye first the Kingdom of this One True God, and "HIS" Righteousness", and that there is only One who is "Good", that is God His Father, and that to Enter Life, we are to obey the Commandments of this God who sent this same Jesus "of the Bible" to us.

As it is also written;

Eph. 4: 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

This same Jesus "of the Bible" said;

John 6: 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. 45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught "of God". Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of "the Father", cometh unto me.

But as Jesus and the Prophets, and the Apostles warned over and over, there are also "many" men who call this Jesus Lord, Lord, who come in His Name, who "profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate."

The Jesus of the Bible said to take Heed of these "many" who come in His Name, that we are not deceived by them.

Great question Matt, and one certainly relevant for our times.

Thank you for sharing, with me studyman, its good to hear from you. It's a very important to establish whom one is to worship, and to me that is the Father in Heaven.
 
Any intelligent and satisfactory answer to the question must be based upon the Scriptural Record of Christ. If on that basis, Christ is worthy of admiration. He is likewise worthy of adoration. He should be both respected and worshipped or neither respected nor worshipped. The Modernists accuse our Lord of the crime of the Antichrist who, is to sit in the temple of God and show himself as God. He is to be destroyed for this crime. Jesus Christ made this claim. If not God. He was guilty of blasphemy and worthy of death.

Christ is mentioned by noun and pronoun about seven thousand times in the New Testament Scriptures. The same supernatural story is woven into every part of those Scriptures. After studying these twenty-seven records, we should decide that the Jews of the first century who took up stones to stone Him, “because thou being a man makest thyself God,” were far more consistent than are the Modernist Jews and so-called Modernist Christians of the twentieth century who join with Judas to betray Christ with a kiss. John 10:30 to 38. Read about them in Jude 4 and II Peter 2:1—III John 7.

Without the Scriptures I know not what I think. By the Scriptures I think that Christ was, and is, Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, everlasting Father; that He was in the form of God and took upon Himself the form of a servant; that He was with God; that He was God. I think that all things were created by Him; that He is before all things, and by Him all things consist. I think that in Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily; that in Him are hid the treasures of wisdom and knowledge; that in all things He should have the pre-eminence; that when the Father brought Him into the world, He said, “let all the angels of God worship Him,” and the Father said to the Son, “Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever.” My thinking is based upon the following Scriptures Isaiah 9:6 . . . Philippians 2:5 to 9 . . . John 1:1 to 10 . . . Ephesians 3:9 . . . Colossians 1:15 to 19 . . . Colossians 2:3 to 9 . . . Hebrews 1:1 to 8 . . . . Because Christ had glory with the Father before the world was, He could truly say, “I and Father are one,” “he that hath seen me hath seen the Father.”

Every one should either bow before Christ, with Thomas, and: say, “My Lord and My God,” and sing with men and angels, “worthy is the Lamb that Was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory and blessing,” or else discredit and reject the only written story of Jesus Christ as a fable or a forgery, and confess that there is no authentic document that can be examined for an intelligent answer to the question. John 17:5 . . . John 10:30 . . . John 14:9 . . . John 20:28 . . . Revelation 5:12.


It certainly would not be the mark of intelligence to hand the New Testament Scriptures over to the religious modern scholars of this age and tell them to separate truth from fiction; for we would find the Christ of their creation more impossible than the Christ they reject. You have only to read “The Man Nobody Knows” to be convinced of this fact.

The Christ of orthodox Christianity is truly the Christ of the Scriptures, the only true Christ, the only Christ who could communicate saving grace to the sinner. He had power to lay down His life and take it up again. Only the Holy Spirit can enable us to answer the first question aright. Only the Christ of the Bible could bring sinners to God by His shed blood. And it is by His precious blood that believing sinners are saved. Ephesians 2:13; I Peter 1:18 to 21.

Despising the grace of God, it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 10:28 to 33.

Now for the second question:

“WHAT SHALL I DO THEN WITH JESUS WHICH IS CALLED CHRIST?” MATTHEW 7:22.

“Christ died for our sins.” He was delivered for our offenses and raised again for our justification.” “The Lord hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all.” Before His death, the Saviour said, “the good Shepherd giveth His life for the sheep.” The Son of m

an came to give His life a ransom for many. “Neither is there salvation in any other.” . . . I Corinthians 15:3 . . . Romans 4:24 . . . Isaiah 53:6 . . . John 10:11 . . . Mark 10:45 . . . Acts 4:12.

“God commandeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, CHRIST DIED FOR US.” Romans 5:8.

Are you not moved to action because of this sacrifice of love?

“God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth on Him. should not perish but have everlasting life.”

Surely this should move you to act quickly. You should act, for two reasons; first, because of God’s great love. He has done something with Christ, for your sake and mine. Christ suffered an awful penalty, obediently and willingly, for us. That love is enough to constrain us to action. But secondly, we should act immediately, because of the awful penalty, the terrific judgment awaiting all who refuse to act. “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.” Acts 16:31. “He that believeth on the Son is not condemned; but he that believeth not condemned already because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” John 3:18.

I must act favorably, or be lost and condemned forever. I have acted. I have accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as my own personal Saviour. Have you? If not, why not? If not up to now, why not now?

Hello, good to hear from you Johann. It's all relatively simple to me. One is to worship God, whom is our Father who adopts us into the Kingdom, and transfers us from the power of darkness, to the kingdom of his Son.
 
Hello, good to hear from you Johann. It's all relatively simple to me. One is to worship God, whom is our Father who adopts us into the Kingdom, and transfers us from the power of darkness, to the kingdom of his Son.
Shalom-good to hear from you and to me-Jesus is to be worshipped.
like you've said-it is all relatively simple.

Acts 16:31. “He that believeth on the Son is not condemned; but he that believeth not condemned already because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” John 3:18.

Johann
 
Shalom-good to hear from you and to me-Jesus is to be worshipped.
like you've said-it is all relatively simple.

Acts 16:31. “He that believeth on the Son is not condemned; but he that believeth not condemned already because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” John 3:18.

Johann
Okay

It doesn't make a difference to me what you choose to do. You have the free ability to think and choose for yourself.

Thank you for sharing.
 

Absolutely, it's amazing how people simply dismiss Jesus, in this way in which He stated what his Father desired for people to do. I beileve that people become confused because of other manmade doctrines out there in the world, not to say they are not saved by grace through faith, it's just a misunderstanding that they get into with all those manmade traditions, or suggestions of human beings advice rather than listening to Yeshua. @Studyman.
 
I agree, as the Jesus "of the Bible" instructs.
How Believing in Jesus Can Save You

The Lord Jesus Christ revealed the gospel that saves any man today to the apostle Paul. This gospel of grace allows Christ to save through mere belief in the gospel of Christ (Eph 1:13)

“To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.” – Romans 3:25

Before that time, the righteousness of God to save by faith alone was not known, and so faith by itself would impugn the righteousness of God to save (James 2:20).

Christ had to make himself known to Israel for people to believe who he was, he had to die and resurrect for men to know what he did, and the mystery of the gospel had to be revealed before belief could stand alone without works, law, or Israel (i.e. pure grace).

There was a time when belief in Jesus was either impossible, or insufficient, but now according to the revelation of the mystery, faith in Christ is what saves upon hearing the gospel of the grace of God.

Jesus was God in the flesh who died for your sins, rose from the dead, and revealed the gospel of his finished work having done everything necessary for your salvation. Trust him to be saved according to the gospel of grace.

If you don’t know who Jesus is, what he did, or fail to trust his finished work, then believing in Jesus cannot save you.

Are you saved?

“I believe in Jesus”

So what. What do you believe about him? How does he save you?
 
How Believing in Jesus Can Save You

The Lord Jesus Christ revealed the gospel that saves any man today to the apostle Paul. This gospel of grace allows Christ to save through mere belief in the gospel of Christ (Eph 1:13)

“To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.” – Romans 3:25

Before that time, the righteousness of God to save by faith alone was not known, and so faith by itself would impugn the righteousness of God to save (James 2:20).

Christ had to make himself known to Israel for people to believe who he was, he had to die and resurrect for men to know what he did, and the mystery of the gospel had to be revealed before belief could stand alone without works, law, or Israel (i.e. pure grace).

There was a time when belief in Jesus was either impossible, or insufficient, but now according to the revelation of the mystery, faith in Christ is what saves upon hearing the gospel of the grace of God.

Jesus was God in the flesh who died for your sins, rose from the dead, and revealed the gospel of his finished work having done everything necessary for your salvation. Trust him to be saved according to the gospel of grace.

If you don’t know who Jesus is, what he did, or fail to trust his finished work, then believing in Jesus cannot save you.

Are you saved?

“I believe in Jesus”

So what. What do you believe about him? How does he save you?
One thing to note Johann, is that you are talking to people who already believe that Jesus was the Word of God, and that God had sent him, and that he was Immanuel. Do you believe that people who do not agree with you are lost, or unaware of truth?
 
One thing to note Johann, is that you are talking to people who already believe that Jesus was the Word of God, and that God had sent him, and that he was Immanuel. Do you believe that people who do not agree with you are lost, or unaware of truth?
I find it problematic that you and @Studyman would think Jesus Christ is not to be worshipped-
 
I find it problematic that you and @Studyman would think Jesus Christ is not to be worshipped-

Look, I love Jesus, he is my Lord and King, and the only one who is known to make people right with God. Praying in the name of Yeshua, and going to the Father with supplications. All those who came to Jesus in the bible fell on their knees, "worshiping him" but that is only significant of showing that them as only being human seen Jesus as more than just human, and he was, the very Word of God, and a King, and Lord.

I am not saying, Jesus should be dismissed, or ignored, he was the only one who was able to pay and clear all the worlds sins up through his sacrfice.

And if I am to listen to Jesus, what did he say, which Studyman shared?

John 4: 21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the "true worshippers" shall worship "the Father" in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to "worship him".


Why would it be wise to ignore what he suggest?
 
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