And All Israel Shall Be Saved!

Paul was a Apostle and wrote the word of God
I know that. His letters to Jews and Jewish Christians explain the New Covenant by interpretation of the Old Covenant and the Prophets. His writings were letters and are not equal to the prophets of Israel, Moses, and the rest (Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Jonah, Joel, etc.) Everything Saul wrote with regard to the New Covenant come from the Old Covenant and the Prophets. In the Old Covenant are promises and prophecy the through inspiration of the Holy Spirit Saul was able to explain and discuss through his letters and in person those things found in the Old Covenant that explain what the New Covenant was all about.
 
I know that. His letters to Jews and Jewish Christians explain the New Covenant by interpretation of the Old Covenant and the Prophets. His writings were letters and are not equal to the prophets of Israel, Moses, and the rest (Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Jonah, Joel, etc.)
Peter disagrees with you and so do I 2 Pet 3 15-16

15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures,
unto their own destruction.
 
Peter disagrees with you and so do I 2 Pet 3 15-16

15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures,
unto their own destruction.
The "scripture" Peter is referencing means "writings."

Script, scripture, what I am typing out here in my response are the same scripture" Peter refers to. It merely means "writings."

"As do the other writings," Peter says.

And the other writings made by Saul's secretary (amanuensis) who wrote Saul's letters for him. Are you going to tell me Saul's "amanuensis" (writings/script) are the Word of God?

I don't think so. There is nothing that states that Saul's amanuensis was inspired by the Spirit.



Nothing.
 
The Church is called out ones. Is Israel a called out people?
Yes.

Exodus 35:1 Moses assembled all the congregation of the people of Israel, and said to them, "These are the things which the LORD has commanded you to do.

That word assembled is Qahal in Hebrew, and Ekklesia in Greek - called out. If only our translations of our New and Old Testaments were consistent with each other!
 
Its the word of God
Sure, if you say so.
I on the other hand see his statement as personal opinion. I don't have to "count all my blessings from God as dung (feces)" as you want me to do.
If Saul wants to count all God has given him as feces that's his opinion and prerogative.
I know better.
 
Sure, if you say so.
I on the other hand see his statement as personal opinion. I don't have to "count all my blessings from God as dung (feces)" as you want me to do.
If Saul wants to count all God has given him as feces that's his opinion and prerogative.
I know better.
Paul's writing are the scriptures and you opposed them
 
Paul's writing are the scriptures and you opposed them
I don't oppose. I understand him. And if he (Saul) wants to count what God has given him in this life as feces that's HIS prerogative. I don't treat the things God gives me as feces. I honor Him and am grateful for all I have in Him.
 
That's what rabbi Saul said in Romans:

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Romans 11:25–27.

What covenant is that? The New Covenant instituted at the Passover by Jesus sealing it in His blood. God had been going towards this goal ever since He first made covenant promises with Abram the Hebrew (Genesis 14:13), in Genesis chapters 12, 15, and 17.
From Abram to the last Hebrew/Jew to be born into the world, ALL ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED, Saul says in quoting Jeremiah who prophesied of a New Covenant between God and the Hebrew people. Jesus instituted this New Covenant at the Passover meal in the upper room (Passover: a Hebrew observance.) When Jesus was crucified and died on His cross His unblemished sacrifice to God was received and applied to the sins of every Hebrew born into the world. Here is Jeremiah's words on that:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
I will put my law in their inward parts,
And write it in their hearts;
And will be their God,
And they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour (member of another tribe), and every man his brother (member of the same tribe), saying,
Know the LORD:
For they shall all know me,
From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Jeremiah 31:33–34.

"For I will FORGIVE their iniquity and remember their sin NO MORE!

This, Jesus accomplished on the cross. And atonement was accomplished for all of Israel. God has forgiven the iniquity of Israel - even their supporting crucifying Him - and will remember their sin NO MORE!
Israel is restored to God and all Israel shall be saved.
Can I get an "Amen!"?
Is or was Judas Iscariot one of all Israel?
 
The body of Christ did not begin until Pentecost. :) Thats the church I'm talking about.
Where its now one body consisting of beleiving jews and gentiles .
And the only way one can be in that tree IS by FAITH IN CHRIST JESUS .
Now some may say But hey amigo the jews have f aith in GOD .
DO THEY . For what i say to one i say to all , IF one hears NOT and BELIEVES NOT ON HE whom
GOD did send , THEIR FAITH IS NOT IN GOD . Let that be a lesson to any
who dares to imply that all other religoins serve the same GOD as do we .
For though the jews of old cliamed Abraham as their father
Claimed GOD is our father , claimed to hear MOSES
I tell us all IF that were so THEY had BELIEVED on HE whom the FATHER SENT
and WHOM the very law and prophets had pointed too . JESUS THE CHRIST .
THE G LORIOUS RISEN savoir . So allow me a parting reminder to us all .
HE who denies JESUS IS the CHRIST , HE is a liar , HE is anti christ . As wrote the apostle john himself .
BUT HE who BELIEVES on The SON , HE HAS both the FATHER AND THE SON . GOSPEL TIME in the house .
 
Is or was Judas Iscariot one of all Israel?
Judas Iscariot was a Hebrew in covenant with God. Jesus called him along with the other eleven disciples and "named them apostles."
If Jesus named the twelve men He chose as apostles, then these men are apostles. Jesus called them apostles and I do not contradict Jesus. Like Peter, James, and John and the others Judas was an apostle of the lamb who was a disciple of the Lord called in the same capacity as the other disciples.

12 And it came to pass in those days, that he went out into a mountain to pray, and continued all night in prayer to God.
13 And when it was day, he called unto him his disciples: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles;
14 Simon, (whom he also named Peter,) and Andrew his brother, James and John, Philip and Bartholomew,
15 Matthew and Thomas, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon called Zelotes,
16 And Judas the brother of James, and Judas Iscariot, which also was the traitor. Luke 6:12–16.

Born in Kerioth, Israel, specifically in the land of Judah, Judas was a man like all men under the Law and when the high priest sacrificed yearly an animal for the sins of God's people, then for one year their sins were covered until the next year and the next year after that. Then, there came the lamb of God who under the Law sacrificed Himself finally and eternally for the sins of God's people under the Law. Jesus died for the sins of God's people. God's people are those who are Abraham's seed and heirs of his promises.

Everyone betrayed Jesus. Everyone rejected Jesus at a time He needed them the most and all forsook Him to save their own lives. But Judas declared Him. Judas led men into the night and pointed Him out and said, "This is the man. This is Jesus the Christ whom you seek."
The bottom line is that Jesus came to Israel as promised and came to save Israel with the sacrifice of Himself for their sins. And this He did. As Saul says:

4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. Galatians 4:4–5.

Israel's redemption is complete. God has sent forth His Son to die - and resurrect - for the sins of the children of Israel under the Law of God. God saves Israel. Israel does not save themselves. As the hymn says: "Nothing to the cross I bring, surely to the cross I cling."

As Jonah says, "Salvation is OF THE LORD."
 
When Paul wrote Rom 11:25-27

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 for this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins

The All Israel that shall be saved is not the physical nation of Israel, but Spiritual Israel, the Body of Christ, comprised of Abrahams Spiritual seed of promise, consisting of jews and gentiles. So in this manner, by the calling in of the Gentile Elect, Sheep together with the jew elect sheep, all Israel shall be saved, the Body of Christ!
 
When Paul wrote Rom 11:25-27

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 for this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins

The All Israel that shall be saved is not the physical nation of Israel, but Spiritual Israel, the Body of Christ, comprised of Abrahams Spiritual seed of promise, consisting of jews and gentiles. So in this manner, by the calling in of the Gentile Elect, Sheep together with the jew elect sheep, all Israel shall be saved, the Body of Christ!
The prophet Joel speaking for God promised God will give His Spirit to Israel as 'down-payment' of the fullness of His Spirit in the 'regeneration.'

28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Matthew 19:28.

Speaking to Jesus' twelve disciples Jesus has promised they (all twelve disciples) would at a future date judge the twelve tribes of Israel.
Below, Joel promises God's Spirit to Israel. And one needs the Spirit in order to be converted from natural to spiritual existence.

27 And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel,
And that I am the LORD your God, and none else:
And my people shall never be ashamed.
28 And it shall come to pass afterward,
That I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh;
And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
Your old men shall dream dreams,
Your young men shall see visions:
Joel 2:27–28.

This is God speaking to Israel and ONLY Israel. The whole of the Bible is a history of God's relationship with His people; a people identified as the children of Israel (Jacob.) There are no non-Hebrew Gentiles included in any of the covenants nor of any of God's promises to His people Israel. The Law, the Psalms, and the Prophets is the totality of God's written account of His relationship with Abraham and with his biological seed. Thus, with Joel promising that God will give His Spirit to Israel the promise of eternal life is laid bare for the Hebrew people to receive as a people and as God's people.

Under the Law the children of Israel were commanded in the Ceremonial Law to worship God with sacrifices and offerings. One of those sacrifices was performed yearly on Israel's holiest day, the Day of Atonement, or Yom Kippur, the day in which an animal was slain as commanded by God for the yearly and temporary atonement of Israel's sins. When Jesus said "I come not to destroy the Law, but to fulfill" explains that as lamb of God Jesus the Christ is offered 'once and for all' as promised and prophesied to finally and eternally atoned the sins of the Hebrew children of Israel. There were no Gentiles included in this atonement. This was a relationship between the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and Abraham's biological seed, a people later to be identified in the Hebrew Scripture as the children of Israel.

After Jesus ascended the Holy Spirit of God promised to Israel finally "came down from heaven as a rushing mighty wind and filled everyone that was in the house" (Acts 2.) This occurred on the Jewish Day of Harvest also known as Pentecost. On this day three thousand Jews were born-again by the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ISRAEL and natural Olive tree Israel became spiritual Olive tree Israel thus beginning the fulfillment of Ezekiel's prophecies of Israel being given a "new heart."

22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name’s sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.
24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.
Ezekiel 36:22–28.

This is promised to Israel and there is no other way to interpret this to include non-Hebrew Gentiles. God is speaking TO ISRAEL and Israel is recipient of God's promises. The Scripture speaks for itself and for God. For this is the written Word God has given to the Hebrew people throughout all generations. God has spoken. The Spirit has spoken. And Israel has received. There are NO NON-HEBREW GENTILES included in any of these promises God makes to Abraham and his seed. To add Gentiles to any of these things is to bastardize the Word of God and we all know the enemy of Israel and of God is a liar.
Any doctrine that opposes this Word is a lie and stands in opposition to God.
THIS IS The Word of God.
 
The Church, the Body of Christ Israel, are those whom God foreknew, His People. Rom 11:1-2a

I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people[Israel] which he foreknew.

The casting away of the nation of israel was not God casting away His People Israel the Church, the Body of Christ, the remnant according to the election of grace. Remember Paul had just wrote in Rom 9:6


6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel[foreknew], which are of Israel[national:

Those whom He foreknew in Christ to be conformed to His Image, is the Israel the Body of Christ Rom 8:29


29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

This verse Identifies Israel, no not the ethnic nation, but the people of God Israel, the Children of God Israel
 
The Church, the Body of Christ Israel, are those whom God foreknew, His People. Rom 11:1-2a

I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people[Israel] which he foreknew.

The casting away of the nation of israel was not God casting away His People Israel the Church, the Body of Christ, the remnant according to the election of grace. Remember Paul had just wrote in Rom 9:6


6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel[foreknew], which are of Israel[national:

Those whom He foreknew in Christ to be conformed to His Image, is the Israel the Body of Christ Rom 8:29


29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

This verse Identifies Israel, no not the ethnic nation, but the people of God Israel, the Children of God Israel
When the Comforter arrived and baptized three thousand Jews into the body of Christ natural Olive tree Israel became spiritual Olive tree Israel.
Full stop.
 
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