And All Israel Shall Be Saved!

[jeremiah1five]

Paul was a Apostle and wrote the word of God

I know that. His letters to Jews and Jewish Christians explain the New Covenant by interpretation of the Old Covenant and the Prophets. His writings were letters and are not equal to the prophets of Israel, Moses, and the rest (Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Jonah, Joel, etc.) Everything Saul wrote with regard to the New Covenant come from the Old Covenant and the Prophets. In the Old Covenant are promises and prophecy the through inspiration of the Holy Spirit Saul was able to explain and discuss through his letters and in person those things found in the Old Covenant that explain what the New Covenant was all about.

 

[brightfame52]

I know that. His letters to Jews and Jewish Christians explain the New Covenant by interpretation of the Old Covenant and the Prophets. His writings were letters and are not equal to the prophets of Israel, Moses, and the rest (Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Jonah, Joel, etc.)

Peter disagrees with you and so do I 2 Pet 3 15-16

15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Peter disagrees with you and so do I 2 Pet 3 15-16

15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

The "scripture" Peter is referencing means "writings."

Script, scripture, what I am typing out here in my response are the same scripture" Peter refers to. It merely means "writings."

"As do the other writings," Peter says.

And the other writings made by Saul's secretary (amanuensis) who wrote Saul's letters for him. Are you going to tell me Saul's "amanuensis" (writings/script) are the Word of God?

I don't think so. There is nothing that states that Saul's amanuensis was inspired by the Spirit.



Nothing.

 

[brightfame52]

The "scripture" Peter is referencing means "writings."

Its the word of God

 

[Wick Stick]

The Church is called out ones. Is Israel a called out people?

Yes.

Exodus 35:1 Moses assembled all the congregation of the people of Israel, and said to them, "These are the things which the LORD has commanded you to do.

That word assembled is Qahal in Hebrew, and Ekklesia in Greek - called out. If only our translations of our New and Old Testaments were consistent with each other!

 

[Wick Stick]

nowhere is all of the bible does God say Israel is the church

It does, though. The OT translators just use the word assembly, where the NT translators use the word church. They are the same word! See my previous post.

 

[civic]

It does, though. The OT translators just use the word assembly, where the NT translators use the word church. They are the same word! See my previous post.

The body of Christ did not begin until Pentecost. Thats the church I'm talking about.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Its the word of God

Sure, if you say so.
I on the other hand see his statement as personal opinion. I don't have to "count all my blessings from God as dung (feces)" as you want me to do.
If Saul wants to count all God has given him as feces that's his opinion and prerogative.
I know better.

 

[brightfame52]

Sure, if you say so.
I on the other hand see his statement as personal opinion. I don't have to "count all my blessings from God as dung (feces)" as you want me to do.
If Saul wants to count all God has given him as feces that's his opinion and prerogative.
I know better.

Paul's writing are the scriptures and you opposed them