SteveB
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When you talk about the term- saved.
What are you talking about?
Please describe what salvation means.
An honest inquiry into the nature of Christology by a Trinitarian
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What are you talking about?
Please describe what salvation means.
101G
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2 Timothy 4:3 " For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;" 2 Timothy 4:4 " And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."
that's why,
101G
101G
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SteveB
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Ah.
So the Bible isn't sound doctrine, and I'm supposed to believe what you think instead?
I further note your failure to answer my question.
You're really racking up the failures to answer questions asked of you.
101G
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Isaiah 28:9 " Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts." Isaiah 28:10 " For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:" Isaiah 28:11 " For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people." Isaiah 28:12 " To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear." Isaiah 28:13 " But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken." Isaiah 28:14 " Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem." Isaiah 28:15 " Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:" Isaiah 28:16 " Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste." Isaiah 28:17 " Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place." Isaiah 28:18 " And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it." Isaiah 28:19 " From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report." Isaiah 28:20 " For the bed is shorter than that a man can stretch himself on it: and the covering narrower than that he can wrap himself in it." Isaiah 28:21 " For the LORD shall rise up as in mount Perazim, he shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon, that he may do his work, his strange work; and bring to pass his act, his strange act." Isaiah 28:22 " Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth." Isaiah 28:23 " Give ye ear, and hear my voice; hearken, and hear my speech." Isaiah 28:24 " Doth the plowman plow all day to sow? doth he open and break the clods of his ground?" Isaiah 28:25 " When he hath made plain the face thereof, doth he not cast abroad the fitches, and scatter the cummin, and cast in the principal wheat and the appointed barley and the rie in their place?" Isaiah 28:26 " For his God doth instruct him to discretion, and doth teach him." Isaiah 28:27 " For the fitches are not threshed with a threshing instrument, neither is a cart wheel turned about upon the cummin; but the fitches are beaten out with a staff, and the cummin with a rod." Isaiah 28:28 " Bread corn is bruised; because he will not ever be threshing it, nor break it with the wheel of his cart, nor bruise it with his horsemen." Isaiah 28:29 " This also cometh forth from the LORD of hosts, which is wonderful in counsel, and excellent in working."
101G.
Foghorn
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Just a friendly suggestion, But to make that easier for people to read you should break it up into smaller paragraphs. One huge block of text is not appealing for anyone to want to read. Just my two cents. Not trying to tell you what to do.
I have realized that I am not inclined to pay much attention to long posts or confusing ones. Where possible I will keep posts brief.
101G
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Do as you like? I find your style unreadable so I don't try to figure it out. I've had a tough time figuring out how to write clearly, so I understand the issues faced in writing.
101G
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do as I like? ....... or U.
the bible is nothing to play with. again, this brief excuse is just that... an excuse.
101G
like I said, if you want to maintain a style of incommunication, go ahead. Also, if you have such ambition, create a treatise on the alternatives to the Trinitarian understanding of our God. Address all the concerns and share it with the world. And while you do that, you could focus on making your document readable.
101G
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there is no style for 101G, only PRINCIPLE. and the first principles of the oracles of God. is Hebrews 5:12 " For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat." Hebrews 5:13 " For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe." Hebrews 5:14 " But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil."
hope that was not too long.
101G.
hope that was not too long.
101G.
I think the advice is good when the advice can be followed. I affirm the idea independent of the situation you posted to.
SteveB
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And what makes you the only person on this forum who can be defined as one of these people you think Isaiah describes?
Curious...
You've still failed to answer the question I asked you.
For someone who is trying to convince others that you're some spiritual hotshot who should be taken more seriously than others, you're actually demonstrating that you are quite unreliable.
You should post this to counter the ideas jeremiah1five has posted. This could dissuade him from the ideas he has been following.
e v e
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salvation , being saved = restoration to our eden
which happens once the souls of Him
meet Him on the clouds. soon.
hope is what we have until we are saved from this earth.
Christ made it possible to go Home.
SteveB
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e v e
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What do you think?
that literally being saved is
that His souls will meet christ on the clouds
and return to eden paradise
which He legally made possible to happen
by the cross
but now will be de facto.
finally
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