DavidTree
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RCC = man-made counterfeit
JESUS = "Thy Word is Truth"
Holy Spirit = "Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty."
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JESUS = "Thy Word is Truth"
Holy Spirit = "Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty."
synergy
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Protestant Liberty = Man-Made Anything-Goes Churches.
DavidTree
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“Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand.
synergy
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Stick to the subject of Protestant Man-Made Anything-Goes Churches. I don't play Rabbit Holes games.
DavidTree
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Stick to the Only One who knows that man-made religion (RCC, jw. LDS etc) is unable to please God.
synergy
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So then you know about Protestant Man-Made Anything-Goes Churches.
DavidTree
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The more the Holy Spirit teaches me the Word, the more i know about all churches/religions!!!
FYI - the RCC offers a complete package of "anything goes" = from worshipping statues/idols, to worshipping Mary and deceased people, praying for the dead and so on........
synergy
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You need to prove that Catholics are in fact worshiping stones and not just venerating Saints before you go around making those accusations. I'm not Catholic so don't ask me for any Catholic information.
As for Protestants, they take the cake with their imagined anything-goes man-made entertainment-presentations church traditions.
DavidTree
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i was raised RCC so i know
synergy
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Then prove you know the difference between worship and veneration and then prove that Catholics in fact worshiping stones and are not venerating Saints.
DavidTree
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veneration = worship
synergy
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So you don't know the difference between worship and veneration. That disqualified you as the Judge of Catholics.
Remember, I'm not Catholic so I'm an objective observer.
DavidTree
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"Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field that the LORD God had made........"
veneration is not worship = "you will not die"
My Heavenly FATHER will judge catholics
My Heavenly Savior will judge Saints
The Holy Spirit who is my Guide judges doctrines
synergy
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Huh? Explain what you wrote.
Can the Holy Spirit guide you into explaining your "veneration is not worship = "you will not die" comment?
DavidTree
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synergy
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Where is the explanation? What mission - the mission to give us confusing statements?
DavidTree
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Confusing statements such as: "veneration is not worship" is satan's accomplishment
DavidTree
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Confusing statements such as: "veneration is not worship" is satan's accomplishment
The "mission" belongs to God's Missionary = the Holy Spirit
synergy
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What "mission" could you possibly be talking about??? Last time I checked I still can't read your mind. You need to brush up on your communication skills.
While you're at it, could you also explain what your "veneration is not worship = "you will not die" means?
Doug Brents
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This strikes me as a very catholic statement, seeing as there is NEVER a singular Elder within the Church, and no Elder is above another. Thus, there will never be a "first" (either cardinal or ordinal) Elder/bishop.
Your opinion is noted. But it is neither logical nor supported in Scripture. Timothy, like Paul, was a missionary. His post at that time was indeed in Ephesus. But that does not mean that he was not later relocated to another area once Ephesus and the surrounding area was mature in the faith. Once a congregation of the Church is mature in the faith, and has proven elders to oversee proper doctrine is taught within the Church, the missionary is no longer needed in that area. He can then move on to other areas to teach and plant congregations of the Church there.
It is entirely possible that Timothy did indeed marry someone while he was in or around Ephesus, and that this union resulted in children, and those children became believers, thus allowing Timothy to qualify as an elder. But there is no record of that in Scripture, nor does that speculation bear on this conversation. Timothy's roll was that of missionary to the area surrounding Ephesus. He, like Apollos and many others, was there to water, weed, and cultivate the soil after Paul passed through planting the Seed.
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