The Samaritan woman must not have gotten the memo.
Women.
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Due to past eras when women were treated as second-class citizens in every arena, many assume that the biblical restrictions on the role of women in the church are part of that sexist mentality.
Others assert that, since culture has erased most gender distinctions, the church should as well. Others point out that a woman may be just as gifted as—or better than—a man in public speaking and biblical insight, so she should be able to preach in the same way that men do. It is a divisive issue, but so are today's gay pastors.
Others assert that, since culture has erased most gender distinctions, the church should as well. Others point out that a woman may be just as gifted as—or better than—a man in public speaking and biblical insight, so she should be able to preach in the same way that men do. It is a divisive issue, but so are today's gay pastors.
Acts 21:8-11
8 And the next day we departed and came unto Caesarea and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelist, who was one of the seven; and abode with him.
9 And the same man had four daughters, virgins, who were prophetesses.
10 And as we tarried there many days, there came down from Judea a certain prophet named Agabus.
11 And when he was come unto us, he took Paul's girdle and bound his own hands and feet, and said, Thus saith the Holy Spirit, So shall the Jews at Jerusalem bind the man who owneth this girdle and shall deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.
Even with 4 females who were prophetesses in the same house with Paul, it took Agabus (a man), who came down from Judea, to inform Paul of the word of the Lord.
8 And the next day we departed and came unto Caesarea and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelist, who was one of the seven; and abode with him.
9 And the same man had four daughters, virgins, who were prophetesses.
10 And as we tarried there many days, there came down from Judea a certain prophet named Agabus.
11 And when he was come unto us, he took Paul's girdle and bound his own hands and feet, and said, Thus saith the Holy Spirit, So shall the Jews at Jerusalem bind the man who owneth this girdle and shall deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.
Even with 4 females who were prophetesses in the same house with Paul, it took Agabus (a man), who came down from Judea, to inform Paul of the word of the Lord.
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101G
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2 Thessalonians 3:9 "Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us." 2 Thessalonians 3:10 "For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat." 2 Thessalonians 3:11 "For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies."
that's the example
101G.
Your point?
DavidTree
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i do not see a problem with Holy Spirit filled women teaching = even to men
God does not approve of women rising above men = such as a pastor.
If a woman feels she is led to be a 'pastor' , then her correct designation should always be 'pastorette' or 'shepherdess'.
To signify her gender, and thus under a man according to God's Design and Plan
I like "A Doctor of Divinity".
101G
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DavidTree
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DavidTree
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Good Morning @Carol
The only doctorate of divinity that i can find in the Holy Scriptures belongs to the Holy Spirit = aka The Spirit of Truth
“I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you.
All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.
my Sister in Christ, please do not take offense in this which i share from my 40 years of study under the Holy Spirit:
Some of the dumbest and unbiblical teachings i ever heard came from men with doctorates of divinity.
Peace and Blessing be upon you @Carol from our Lord & Savior Jesus Christ
101G
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BUT NOT PULPIT PREACHING OR IN THE TEMPLES EITHER? was the Lord Jesus in a pulpit? and was not Anna serving the Lord in the ... "TEMPLE" and preached redemption Luke 2:36 "And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Aser: she was of a great age, and had lived with an husband seven years from her virginity;" Luke 2:37 "And she was a widow of about fourscore and four years, which departed not from the temple, but served God with fastings and prayers night and day." Luke 2:38 "And she coming in that instant gave thanks likewise unto the Lord, and spake of him to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem."
remember she departed not the temple, and spake/preached to all that looked for their redemption.
now as for birth of babies, the surrogate mother(s) are not going away anytime soon. and as for a man giving ... "Physical NATURAL BIRTH", be it via C-Section (Cesarean Section, which is a surgical alternative to vaginal birth), man is making Limbs, and other body parts in test tubes ..... even TODAY, and 101G will not be surprise that a clone baby, (without father or mother), is not in the works ....or NOW, even as we speak. and 101G has read this is being attempted in a foreign country., (a man giving birth), but so far no success.
but 101G put nothing pass man, trans-humanism, or cloning ...ect. all are in the works. but one thing is for sure, God is in control. and two, he knowns the end. if man gets beside himself, just as the flood put an end to man before, likewise a NEW HEAVEN and a NEW EARTH is coming, after fire. so don't worry yourself. trust God in what ever comes. he knows how to protect and keep his own.
101G.
101G
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the same point, you better get in the kitchen and cook.... (smile), or go down to burger king and .... "HAVE IT YOUR WAY"...
101G.
It's not in the Scriptures. But here is some info on it.
A Doctor of Divinity (D.Div.) degree is a doctoral-level academic degree in divinity, theology, or ministry, often awarded to those who have made significant contributions to the field. It is frequently an honorary degree, conferred by seminaries and universities in recognition of a person's accomplishments and dedication to religious service. While some institutions offer it as a professional doctorate, others view it as an honorary recognition of a person's life's work in ministry.
Key aspects of the Doctor of Divinity (D.Div.) degree:
Honorary vs. Professional:
The D.Div. can be either an honorary degree or a professional doctorate, depending on the awarding institution.
Focus on Ministry:
The D.Div. is generally geared towards individuals with extensive experience in ministry and a desire to deepen their theological knowledge and leadership skills.
Advanced Theological Study:
It often involves in-depth study of biblical texts, theological concepts, and the practical application of faith in various ministry contexts.
Spiritual Formation:
Many programs emphasize spiritual growth, character development, and leadership skills.
Potential Career Paths:
Graduates may pursue roles in academia, church leadership, chaplaincy, or other areas of ministry.
Distinction from Doctor of Ministry (D.Min.):
The D.Min. is a professional doctorate focused on enhancing practical ministry skills and research within a specific ministry context.
While the D.Min. is a more common degree for those actively involved in ministry, the D.Div. may be awarded later in a person's career, particularly if they have made significant contributions to the field.
In summary, a Doctor of Divinity degree, whether honorary or earned, signifies a high level of achievement and dedication in the field of divinity, theology, or ministry, with a focus on advanced theological study, spiritual formation, and leadership.
AI
101G
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to all,
1 Corinthians 12:28 "And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues."
the term "set" here is the Greek word,
G5087 τίθημι tithemi (tiy'-thee-miy) v.
θέω theo (the'-ō) [an alternate in certain tenses]
1. to place.
2. (properly) to lay in a passive or horizontal posture.
{in the widest application, literally and figuratively; differs from G2476, which properly denotes an upright and active position, while G2749 is properly reflexive and utterly prostrate}
[a prolonged form of a primary theo theh'-o (which is used only as alternate in certain tenses)]
KJV: + advise, appoint, bow, commit, conceive, give, X kneel down, lay (aside, down, up), make, ordain, purpose, put, set (forth), settle, sink down
Compare: G2476, G2749
NOW if God set Prophets in the church, are not women PROPHETS? which are called prophetess? and if God set them in the .... "CHURCH"... do not prophets speak .... IN THE CHURCH?
and as said, "Set" is also translated "Ordain", so why are some in disobedience to God by not "ORDAINING" women prophets?
so, those who refused to ....are in disobedience to the word of God.
and do not prophets "PREACH?" yes, so then women are PREACHERS also.
have we not passed for darkness to light, or is there many still in Darkness.
101g.
1 Corinthians 12:28 "And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues."
the term "set" here is the Greek word,
G5087 τίθημι tithemi (tiy'-thee-miy) v.
θέω theo (the'-ō) [an alternate in certain tenses]
1. to place.
2. (properly) to lay in a passive or horizontal posture.
{in the widest application, literally and figuratively; differs from G2476, which properly denotes an upright and active position, while G2749 is properly reflexive and utterly prostrate}
[a prolonged form of a primary theo theh'-o (which is used only as alternate in certain tenses)]
KJV: + advise, appoint, bow, commit, conceive, give, X kneel down, lay (aside, down, up), make, ordain, purpose, put, set (forth), settle, sink down
Compare: G2476, G2749
NOW if God set Prophets in the church, are not women PROPHETS? which are called prophetess? and if God set them in the .... "CHURCH"... do not prophets speak .... IN THE CHURCH?
and as said, "Set" is also translated "Ordain", so why are some in disobedience to God by not "ORDAINING" women prophets?
so, those who refused to ....are in disobedience to the word of God.
and do not prophets "PREACH?" yes, so then women are PREACHERS also.
have we not passed for darkness to light, or is there many still in Darkness.
101g.
DavidTree
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i completely understand the methods of 'christian' education
the pharisees of JESUS day were the ones touting 'doctorate of divinities'
the most debilitating spiritual disease in 'christianity' today is "respect of persons"
Take notice of the Way the Truth the Life
At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?”
Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me.
Which proves yours is pointless.
101G
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GodsGrace
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Maybe in the spirit there's no difference.
But I'm a girl and will remain so on this earth.
A succourer.
Not a teacher.
An assistant is not the office holder.
Romans 16:2 calls Phoebe a deaconess.
A deaconess, according to the council of Nicea in 325AD could mean an ordained minister or an assistant.
Deaconesses in the early church helped Bishops,,,for instance with baptizing women.
And, if you check history, they were listed among the laity,,,not among the clergy.
Are you saying a BISHOP could have been a woman??
GodsGrace
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Some say the bible supports homosexuality too.There are a TON of reasons people give to back up this idea but every single one relies on twisting scripture, taking it out of context (like 1 Timothy 2:12), and upholding traditional, patriarchal views of men and women’s roles in the church. So let’s start with the basics.
5 Ways the Bible Supports Women Preaching
For decades women have been told that God doesn't allow them to preach and lead in the church. But according to scripture, that is not true! God calls women to preach just as he calls men, no matter what patriarchy says. This article shows how the Bible supports women preaching and leading in...angelajherrington.com
§The church is to be traditional.
The world comes to the church...
the church does not go to the world.
Let's start with the basics....
