civic
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The entire thing was a joke. The inconsistencies were ridiculous.
True Christians, COVID and the Vax
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EclipseEventSigns
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I'm not wanting to get into an arguing match. The evidence still exists in the videos and published studies.
That was your experience. But my experience was very different. The main grocery store I frequented did not let me pass. I had to ask friends who did take the medical procedure to buy my supplies for me.
I remember walking into a restaurant for take-out food. I was required to wear a mask.
As I walked in a person that was unmasked walked in front of me to get a napkin. He didn't need a mask because he was eating there.
We were inches apart.
I'm glad the virus knew to differentiate between us based on our situation.
civic
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Yes that is just one example of many lol. Talk about an oxymoron.
Rockson
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Many might ask you though.....was it the vax that caused the people to meet their demise or the covid itself. I get it you are absolutely convinced it was the vax. I concede it might have been. I do however believe in fact I think I can say I know the non vax people were asserting extreme speculative things claiming things were a given....and that the mark of the
beast had come making people feel they almost took the mark. Also that things were never going to turn back to what we considered normal again. Cash would be done away with, travel would stay restricted to keep people in Communists local hubs. Things now having played out we can see they were mistaken.
EclipseEventSigns
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Again, once one understands the biology of what is going on, one does not see a difference in what you state. You do understand that the stated main purpose of the "vax" is to produce a protein that has supposedly been discovered in the "virus"? And there are many peer-reviewed studies well before 3 years ago about that kind of protein and it's effects as well as the lipid transport mechanism and its effects. That's why I could write in September 2021 (well before the rollout) of what the expected experiences would be for some people who took the medical procedure.
Just because some were mistaken and overly fearful, does not change the actual situation. You can't just whitewash the whole situation because of these people. That is about as mistaken a response as these people displayed.
EclipseEventSigns
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And that is the main point of this thread in the original post. And in White's very good video.
civic
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I didn't watch the video but if that is what was stated then I agree.
I had people in my own family and church look at me like I took the mark of the beast. It was kind of insane at all the division it caused and the paralysis of our country and the world. The church was divided over it as well.
I will give John MacAurthur credit as he stood his ground against our Governor and did not bow the knee and stood firm on his principles. Although I did not personally have his same convictions I highly respect his decision to stand against the government.
The man has won 2 major court cases that protected the church from the government over the past few decades.
EclipseEventSigns
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As I'm sure most of the others who are commenting haven't either. The purpose of this thread is to discuss the subject in the OP. But it seems forum etiquette is not followed.
It would be great if threads actually discussed the material that is shared.
Rockson
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Perhaps it does but there was no need to presumptuously be saying what you claimed about me, "You just don't know. You think you do." Sorry but it's YOU that don't know what I've watched and haven't watched over the last few years.
But you claimed in Canada? I'm a Canadian. There was never a law which said you couldn't get groceries. I'm guessing you're an American and I don't doubt what you said above. So this happened to you in the U.S.? My point is every detail you put forth as fact and the claims you make aren't necessarily the case. Your statements need to be assessed like everyone else.
EclipseEventSigns
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But they ARE the case. You choose not to believe them because you did not experience them. You continue to make assumptions not based on fact.
You do realize that many businesses and government officials and police acted outside of the law of the land during the time.
civic
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ok I'm watching it now
Rockson
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If you're talking about correlations between the vax and people hurt by them I never said I believe them or disbelieve them. Sorry but I'd say you'd have to be God himself to know what 's an absolute fact in every case.
Everyone can make some assumptions not based on facts. Consider even you and others of your persuasion of this subject can do that too. None of us are perfect.
civic
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I like the Psalm 2 reference tying it with Acts 17 below.
31 For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.”
civic
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I just finished it was very good indeed.
civic
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I might look up his navy seal paper he wrote. Have you read it @EclipseEventSigns ?
EclipseEventSigns
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No one said anything about "absolute fact in every case". That is silly and unreasonable. Nothing in any subject that is studied ever has "absolute fact". There is always the possibility of new data that will affect what is concluded and might even negate the entire thing. That is just an absurd statement you made.
I believe this verse is very applicable for all Christians - not particularly addressed to anyone in this thread.
[Eph 4:13-14 LSB] ...until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the full knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ, 14 so that we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming,
There are many who have no true spiritual anchor. They don't study the Scriptures in a meaningful way. Their Sunday life is not connected with their actual life. They think that the pastor giving them the 3 points of How to Live a Better Life with some Bible verse sprinkles is what being a mature Christian is about. It's no wonder the christian fads that come and go which are so full of doctrinal error and occult practices and marketing hype take root. They do not bother to check things out against Scripture - like the Bereans. They are tossed here and there and carried about by every wind.
But it goes so much farther. The doctrines are not just related to our personal spiritual life. But to our entire world view. The Scriptures have much to say about what is true and factual in our life in the world. And that include scientific subjects. The world system tries to make science and religion as two disconnected subjects. That to know the truths of science somehow means you can't be religious (usually meaning being a Christian). But ALL truth is God's truth. That means to have a true and correct world view, one must have a true and correct understanding of all topics. That's not totally possible on this side of eternity. But that is the goal that is set before us.
It is extremely hard work. Never being complacent and thinking we know something fully. Always challenging our preconceived notions. Always being willing to explore those ideas that we think are wrong and make us uncomfortable to even consider. Unfortunately there are very, very few who I've come across that do this. And this is why the Church is so anemic and worldly and cowardly. This is why the majority of Christians acted the way they did during the past several years.
EclipseEventSigns
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Not yet. It's on my list. Hopefully that is one of the things that people in this thread would look up and discuss.
Rockson
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Well it's good to see you acknowledge that. Others many times do not in how they present things and that includes those who were opposed to vaccines. Everything is absolute fact for some people in what they hear from yes even alternative media. No one could tell me otherwise for I've been a leader in home groups and have seen people claiming things as truth absolute when it comes to the vaccine issue.
And I'll say again a better position to hold about the last few years might be let everyone be convinced in their own mind. Like Paul stated in Rom 14:9 Consider giving your brothers and sisters in Christ the benefit of the doubt that they weren't necessarily cowardly but felt they were doing the right thing in the sight of God and man . You felt you were doing this but so did they. Let there be PEACE which God has called us to. 1 Cor 7:15
