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● Gen 41:25a . .Then Joseph said to Pharaoh:
Note Joseph's quick response time. Seeing as how Genesis doesn't say that God
whispered inside Joseph's head, or spoke to him by an audible dictation that only
Joseph's own ears could hear; then I think it safe to assume that God gave Joseph
the interpretation of those dreams by means of his own intuition so that Joseph
knew what they meant without even having to think about it.
Divine inspiration is very subtle at times and pretty amazing too. Back in the early
days of Christianity, certain individuals were supernaturally enabled with a variety
of useful skills and abilities; e.g. Rom 12:5-8 and 1Cor 12:1-11. Compare those
passages with Exodus 31:1-6.
● Gen 41:25b-32 . . Both dreams mean the same thing. God was telling you what
he is about to do. The seven fat cows and the seven plump heads of grain both
represent seven years of prosperity. The seven thin, ugly cows and the seven
withered heads of grain represent seven years of famine. This will happen just as I
have described it, for God has shown you what he is about to do.
. . .The next seven years will be a period of great prosperity throughout the land of
Egypt. But afterward there will be seven years of famine so great that all the
prosperity will be forgotten and wiped out. Famine will destroy the land. This
famine will be so terrible that even the memory of the good years will be erased. As
for having the dream twice, it means that the matter has been decreed by God and
that he will make these events happen soon.
The "twice" method was first seen in Gen 37:5-11. Peter's vision (Acts 10:9-17)
was the same one three times over, while Joseph's and Pharaoh's two dreams
apiece were redundant, indicating that God meant business and wasn't going to
change His mind regarding this matter. You know though, with some people, no
matter how many times, or in how many ways, you try to tell them something, they
refuse to listen; like when a girl keeps saying NO to a boy's advances and he just
keeps coming on anyway because for some strange reason the boy thinks she
doesn't mean it; and he's somehow convinced that her protests are feigned.
Everybody accepted Joseph's interpretation without question-- Pharaoh and all the
magicians and wise men (Gen 41:37) --and that is pretty amazing in itself.
Suppose you were a US President in San Diego for a one-night fund raiser and a
Secret Service agent assigned to protect the President said he heard that the
Border Patrol had an illegal immigrant from Sinaloa in custody down in San Ysidro
charged with rape who says he knows exactly how to balance the Federal budget,
solve all your problems with Iran, China, and North Korea, and get America out of
Afghanistan. Would you be interested? I don't think so; you'd have to be pretty
desperate.
I believe that while Pharaoh and his corps of geniuses were listening to Joseph's
interpretation, God was doing a number on their minds so that they would accept
what Joseph was telling them; and by the time he finished, they were amazed that
they hadn't thought of the interpretation themselves because it seemed not only
quite simple, and obviously true; but also the only possible explanation.
God wasn't bringing all these things to pass for the purpose of embarrassing or of
dethroning the king of Egypt (not this one anyway). As a matter of fact, Pharaoh's
control over the country would be strengthened by these events. The underlying
purpose of it all had to do rather with God's plans and purposes for the people of
Israel. Therefore, not only did God give Pharaoh the dreams, and give Joseph the
true interpretation of the dreams, but also provided an effective action plan for
Egypt's survival.
People often complain that they can't respect a hell-fire God because He only uses
the threat of eternal suffering as coercion to get people in line. But the Bible's talk
of hell and eternal suffering isn't meant to intimidate people. No, it's just like
Pharaoh's dreams: talk of hell and eternal suffering is meant as an early warning of
things to come-- inevitable things.
A Danger Foreseen;
Is Half-Avoided.
(Cheyenne Proverb)
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● Gen 41:25a . .Then Joseph said to Pharaoh:
Note Joseph's quick response time. Seeing as how Genesis doesn't say that God
whispered inside Joseph's head, or spoke to him by an audible dictation that only
Joseph's own ears could hear; then I think it safe to assume that God gave Joseph
the interpretation of those dreams by means of his own intuition so that Joseph
knew what they meant without even having to think about it.
Divine inspiration is very subtle at times and pretty amazing too. Back in the early
days of Christianity, certain individuals were supernaturally enabled with a variety
of useful skills and abilities; e.g. Rom 12:5-8 and 1Cor 12:1-11. Compare those
passages with Exodus 31:1-6.
● Gen 41:25b-32 . . Both dreams mean the same thing. God was telling you what
he is about to do. The seven fat cows and the seven plump heads of grain both
represent seven years of prosperity. The seven thin, ugly cows and the seven
withered heads of grain represent seven years of famine. This will happen just as I
have described it, for God has shown you what he is about to do.
. . .The next seven years will be a period of great prosperity throughout the land of
Egypt. But afterward there will be seven years of famine so great that all the
prosperity will be forgotten and wiped out. Famine will destroy the land. This
famine will be so terrible that even the memory of the good years will be erased. As
for having the dream twice, it means that the matter has been decreed by God and
that he will make these events happen soon.
The "twice" method was first seen in Gen 37:5-11. Peter's vision (Acts 10:9-17)
was the same one three times over, while Joseph's and Pharaoh's two dreams
apiece were redundant, indicating that God meant business and wasn't going to
change His mind regarding this matter. You know though, with some people, no
matter how many times, or in how many ways, you try to tell them something, they
refuse to listen; like when a girl keeps saying NO to a boy's advances and he just
keeps coming on anyway because for some strange reason the boy thinks she
doesn't mean it; and he's somehow convinced that her protests are feigned.
Everybody accepted Joseph's interpretation without question-- Pharaoh and all the
magicians and wise men (Gen 41:37) --and that is pretty amazing in itself.
Suppose you were a US President in San Diego for a one-night fund raiser and a
Secret Service agent assigned to protect the President said he heard that the
Border Patrol had an illegal immigrant from Sinaloa in custody down in San Ysidro
charged with rape who says he knows exactly how to balance the Federal budget,
solve all your problems with Iran, China, and North Korea, and get America out of
Afghanistan. Would you be interested? I don't think so; you'd have to be pretty
desperate.
I believe that while Pharaoh and his corps of geniuses were listening to Joseph's
interpretation, God was doing a number on their minds so that they would accept
what Joseph was telling them; and by the time he finished, they were amazed that
they hadn't thought of the interpretation themselves because it seemed not only
quite simple, and obviously true; but also the only possible explanation.
God wasn't bringing all these things to pass for the purpose of embarrassing or of
dethroning the king of Egypt (not this one anyway). As a matter of fact, Pharaoh's
control over the country would be strengthened by these events. The underlying
purpose of it all had to do rather with God's plans and purposes for the people of
Israel. Therefore, not only did God give Pharaoh the dreams, and give Joseph the
true interpretation of the dreams, but also provided an effective action plan for
Egypt's survival.
People often complain that they can't respect a hell-fire God because He only uses
the threat of eternal suffering as coercion to get people in line. But the Bible's talk
of hell and eternal suffering isn't meant to intimidate people. No, it's just like
Pharaoh's dreams: talk of hell and eternal suffering is meant as an early warning of
things to come-- inevitable things.
A Danger Foreseen;
Is Half-Avoided.
(Cheyenne Proverb)
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