The New birth comes after hearing/believing the gospel

[TomL]

Jn 6:44.65

Those who believe Moses

John 5:46 (LEB) — 46 For if you had believed Moses, you would believe me, for that one wrote about me.

 

[brightfame52]

And that refutes your proclaimed belief.

Yes can a man hear and believe without the Father Drawing according to Jn 6:44 ? Yes or No

 

[brightfame52]

Those who believe Moses

That's not what Jn 6:44, 65 said

 

[TomL]

That's not what Jn 6:44, 65 said

So what?

It does say

John 5:46 (LEB) — 46 For if you had believed Moses, you would believe me, for that one wrote about me.

 

[TomL]

Yes can a man hear and believe without the Father Drawing according to Jn 6:44 ? Yes or No

Yes

It does say

John 5:46 (LEB) — 46 For if you had believed Moses, you would believe me, for that one wrote about me.

 

[brightfame52]

So what?

So it doesn't support you

 

[brightfame52]

Yes

That's not what Jesus said, sorry, you oppose what He said Jn 6 44 65