The Gospel Of Salvation

[brightfame52]

Yes.

It's weird what you're doing with this. Jesus was not saying, "I pray not [EVER] for the world," he was saying, "I pray not [NOW] for the world."

Doesnt make sense for Christ not to pray for a world that God so loved and sent and gave Him to die for.

 

[Dizerner]

Doesnt make sense for Christ not to pray for a world that God so loved and sent and gave Him to die for.

Yes, it does, this is a simple logical error.

If I pray for Bob, I am not praying for Bill.

If I pray for Bill, I am not praying for Bob.

Praying for one, does not mean I never pray for the other.

 

[brightfame52]

@Dizerner

Yes, it does, this is a simple logical error.

No it doesnt, it makes sense that He prays for them He loves and were given to Him by the Father

9 pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

That would be His Sheep Jn 10:28-29


28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

The error is in your doctrine, To refuse to pray for someone you Love

 

[DavidTree]

Yes.

It's weird what you're doing with this. Jesus was not saying, "I pray not [EVER] for the world," he was saying, "I pray not [NOW] for the world."

Now Brother let's think this out relying only on Scripture/Gospel

We know that JESUS is the "Lamb that takes away the sins of the world"

We also know John 3:16

What else do we know from the Gospel of how a person comes to Salvation?

 

[Dizerner]

no idea what you're saying sorry

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

@Dizerner



No it doesnt, it makes sense that He prays for them He loves and were given to Him by the Father

9 pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

That would be His Sheep Jn 10:28-29


28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

The error is in your doctrine, To refuse to pray for someone you Love

The evangelist didn't consider important to mention anything good about the Roman soldiers that cast lots over Jesus garments at the cross.
As far as logic tell us, they were not disciples of Jesus, and most probably, they were polytheists. They had not repented or baptized. They were not feeling emotionally touched in their hearts.
Yet Jesus prayed for them. What was the rationale Jesus presented to God in their defense?

 

[brightfame52]

The evangelist didn't consider important to mention anything good about the Roman soldiers that cast lots over Jesus garments at the cross.
As far as logic tell us, they were not disciples of Jesus, and most probably, they were polytheists. They had not repented or baptized. They were not feeling emotionally touched in their hearts.
Yet Jesus prayed for them. What was the rationale Jesus presented to God in their defense?

Huh ? Another tangent

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

Huh ? Another tangent

This goes in relation to your post 503, my brother.

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

The evangelist didn't consider important to mention anything good about the Roman soldiers that cast lots over Jesus garments at the cross.
As far as logic tell us, they were not disciples of Jesus, and most probably, they were polytheists. They had not repented or baptized. They were not feeling emotionally touched in their hearts.
Yet Jesus prayed for them. What was the rationale Jesus presented to God in their defense?

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

no idea what you're saying sorry

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

what a lovely song of truth , just rejoices the soul to see truth sung .

 

[Dizerner]

It's a cute song, but I do not think we get to heaven by loving our brother, by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

We get to heaven by trusting the shed Blood of Christ to pay the penalty of our sins.

 

[DavidTree]

The evangelist didn't consider important to mention anything good about the Roman soldiers that cast lots over Jesus garments at the cross.
As far as logic tell us, they were not disciples of Jesus, and most probably, they were polytheists. They had not repented or baptized. They were not feeling emotionally touched in their hearts.
Yet Jesus prayed for them. What was the rationale Jesus presented to God in their defense?

The Rationale was that the NEW Covenant was Speaking to the FATHER in Defense of every lost soul.

"God is not willing that any should perish but all come to repentance" - 2 Peter 3:9

What is your rationale for not coming to repentance???

 

[DavidTree]

no idea what you're saying sorry

Why not???

 

[Dizerner]

Why not???

Because it had no application to what I said...

 

[DavidTree]

Because it had no application to what I said...

It 100% applies.....

You need to know how and why it applies as determined by the LORD.

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

What is your rationale for not coming to repentance???

The win 1-0 of Toluca over Tigres.

 

[DavidTree]

The win 1-0 of Toluca over Tigres.

Soccer needs more goals

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

It's a cute song, but I do not think we get to heaven by loving our brother, by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

We get to heaven by trusting the shed Blood of Christ to pay the penalty of our sins.

in that song it specfically said ONE WAY JESUS . and todays version of loving their neighbor
is really hate as it allows sin and even UNBELIEF upon them . Interfaith IS OF ANTI CHRIST . i dont ever want you to forget that .

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

The Rationale was that the NEW Covenant was Speaking to the FATHER in Defense of every lost soul.

"God is not willing that any should perish but all come to repentance" - 2 Peter 3:9

What is your rationale for not coming to repentance???

again there is a reason i brought this video . to remind us that not one story in that bible is a fable .
GOD himself had and has all power , HE SPOKE ALL INTO EXISTANCE .
Easily He can give a man power to KILL a thousand men at once . THERE Is no limit , His hand is not so short .
A virgin concieved
Sarah herself , even conceived when she was well past the age .
GOD SPOKE , SPOKE and created all that IS . SO let us never once heed men
who try and say certain things in that there bible could not have possibly have occured .
NOTHING too hard for GOD my friend . I BELEIVE that . its time our faith be built up
and harsh persecutions will soon come upon the saints to test and to try us all . HAVE FAITH IN GOD
cause in man there is no hope . IF it is written in the BIBLE , my FRIEND ITS TRUTH . LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar .