Dizerner
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Clearly he submitted to becoming a man in the first place.
The Eternal Son
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Clearly he submitted to becoming a man in the first place.
praise_yeshua
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I can't tell much of a difference between you and them.
Dizerner
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If you simply label every OT reference to Christ as Son as prophetic, no evidence can be offered you.
And neither does He have to humble Himself As The I AM THAT I AM! Of course humility is Christ like, and never was there a person with the meek and quiet spirit as Jesus Christ. I am speaking about God who is an eternal Spirit.
praise_yeshua
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You need to define this "authority" you see. Authority is the last line of defense in good and evil. It doesn't come from a sense of agreement.
I can agree somewhat with this. However, we are talking about unique situation with the Son. Not just any man.
Dizerner
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God submits to no one but himself.
praise_yeshua
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That is where you're wrong. There is no context of God without humility. Humility is part of condescending but in the manner in which you present it.
I would you think you'd have experienced by now the facts of this life to the point of realizing you've had your own way for so long............... you don't even know where you end and God begins.
Dizerner
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Do YOU know where?
praise_yeshua
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I know that is what you've been taught. I'm asking you to do more than just state such as fact. Establish it first. Show me submission without authority.
Such can work for us because of our lack of knowledge. Sometimes we just don't know to the point of submitting to authority. However, such is not the case with God.....
Give it some thought.
praise_yeshua
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I think I do. Please help me. Increase my faith.
Dizerner
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We should all be aware of any place inside of us that has replaced the authority of God with our own preferences...
DavidTree
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ABSOLUTELY TRUE my Brother
DavidTree
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Scriptural evidence is Truth
Where that Truth leads us to is CHRIST
Therefore we always nourish our spirits by the Living words of God.
i certainly have the Holy Spirit as my Guide to correct me and HE will do so with your help and that of others by posting a scripture that declares a "begotten Son from BEFORE Creation"
PLEASE post every reference and we can examine together = which our Heavenly Father delights that we should do
Dizerner
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Your presuppositions just dismiss them all as "prophetic."
DavidTree
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What presuppositions?
DavidTree
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presupposition
noun
- The act of presupposing; an antecedent implication; presumption.
Similar: presumption - That which is presupposed; a previous supposition or surmise.
- An assumption made beforehand; a preliminary conjecture or speculation
praise_yeshua
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So how many times have you been wrong since the first time you thought you were right?
DavidTree
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40 years of praying and studying and listening = adjustments were made and if/when any new ones come UP
Dizerner
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That they have to be prophetic to fit in the framework you already assume...
