The Doctrine of Divine Simplicity

[TomL]

Translating is the same at both spots.

Irrelevant. Context matters, Saran is being referred to not Christ, and you were shown multiple places where the true God is referenced, and it is not translated a god

So they are not translated the same in multiple instances as I showed you


John 1:6–18 (NASB 2020) — 6 A man came, one sent from God, and his name was John. 7 He came as a witness, to testify about the Light, so that all might believe through him. 8 He was not the Light, but he came to testify about the Light. 9 This was the true Light that, coming into the world, enlightens every person. 10 He was in the world, and the world came into being through Him, and yet the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His own, and His own people did not accept Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name, 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of a man, but of God. 14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us; and we saw His glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 John testified about Him and called out, saying, “This was He of whom I said, ‘He who is coming after me has proved to be my superior, because He existed before me.’ ” 16 For of His fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace. 17 For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has seen God at any time; God the only Son, who is in the arms of the Father, He has explained Him.

Same greek text below but translated as your source translates, 2cor 4:4

John 1:6–18 (NASB 2020) — 6 A man came, one sent from a god, and his name was John. 7 He came as a witness, to testify about the Light, so that all might believe through him. 8 He was not the Light, but he came to testify about the Light. 9 This was the true Light that, coming into the world, enlightens every person. 10 He was in the world, and the world came into being through Him, and yet the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His own, and His own people did not accept Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of a god, to those who believe in His name, 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of a man, but of a god. 14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us; and we saw His glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 John testified about Him and called out, saying, “This was He of whom I said, ‘He who is coming after me has proved to be my superior, because He existed before me.’ ” 16 For of His fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace. 17 For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has seen a god at any time; a god the only Son, who is in the arms of the Father, He has explained Him.

Civic likewise showed you other examples. You ignore many for the sake of your one which does not even refer to Christ

 

[TomL]

Actually at John 1:1 and 2 Cor 4:4 the true God called Ton Theon=God, both the Word and satan called Theos=god when in the same paragraph with Ton Theon. But yes the true God is called Theos when being spoken of by himself in a paragraph because one knows the true God is the one being spoken of. But they do not know when 2 are being called God and god in the same paragraph.
If both the true God and the Word were called Theos=God-God,then the same at 2 Cor 4:4 the true God and satan if they were called Theos-Theos=God-God. That is why the difference is there= God( Ton Theon) and god(Theos) at both spots.

And one knows Satan not Christ is being spoken of at 2Cor 4:4

while Christ is spoken of here

Titus 2:13 (NASB 2020) — 13 looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus,

2 Peter 1:1 (NASB 2020) — 1 Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ:

John 20:28 (NASB 2020) — 28 Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”




But for some reason you want to ignore that

 

[Complete]

'But I fear, lest by any means,
as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty,
so your minds should be corrupted
from the simplicity that is in Christ.'
(2 Cor. 11:3)

 

[e v e]

what is meant by simplicity in a basic sense
is not the same thing as the concept of divine simplicity.

 

[TomL]

what is meant by simplicity in a basic sense
is not the same thing as the concept of divine simplicity.

The doctrine of divine simplicity indicates God does not have parts and all that is in God is God

 

[e v e]

The doctrine of divine simplicity indicates God does not have parts and all that is in God is God

An abstraction coming from the same realm as the tao/buddhist conception of the same ... that is what the evil realm does, offer us cookie cutter images and collapses things into black and white.

 

[Keiw1]

I have no teachers.

Only He.

imagine that

 

[Keiw1]

Oh yes , His Holy Spirit is a lovely sweet Being.
And He is a lovely Being. And Christ is.


some pagan religions view their god as a force.
God's spirit is not an IT (signatureless). true pagan entities are ITs.

All living beings have a personal name-The HS=0

 

[Keiw1]

You've been watching too many Star Wars movies ("may the force be with you") and now you believe as they do.

All living beings have a personal name. The HS= 0

 

[Keiw1]

Irrelevant. Context matters, Saran is being referred to not Christ, and you were shown multiple places where the true God is referenced, and it is not translated a god

So they are not translated the same in multiple instances as I showed you


John 1:6–18 (NASB 2020) — 6 A man came, one sent from God, and his name was John. 7 He came as a witness, to testify about the Light, so that all might believe through him. 8 He was not the Light, but he came to testify about the Light. 9 This was the true Light that, coming into the world, enlightens every person. 10 He was in the world, and the world came into being through Him, and yet the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His own, and His own people did not accept Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name, 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of a man, but of God. 14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us; and we saw His glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 John testified about Him and called out, saying, “This was He of whom I said, ‘He who is coming after me has proved to be my superior, because He existed before me.’ ” 16 For of His fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace. 17 For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has seen God at any time; God the only Son, who is in the arms of the Father, He has explained Him.

Same greek text below but translated as your source translates, 2cor 4:4

John 1:6–18 (NASB 2020) — 6 A man came, one sent from a god, and his name was John. 7 He came as a witness, to testify about the Light, so that all might believe through him. 8 He was not the Light, but he came to testify about the Light. 9 This was the true Light that, coming into the world, enlightens every person. 10 He was in the world, and the world came into being through Him, and yet the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His own, and His own people did not accept Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of a god, to those who believe in His name, 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of a man, but of a god. 14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us; and we saw His glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 John testified about Him and called out, saying, “This was He of whom I said, ‘He who is coming after me has proved to be my superior, because He existed before me.’ ” 16 For of His fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace. 17 For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has seen a god at any time; a god the only Son, who is in the arms of the Father, He has explained Him.

Civic likewise showed you other examples. You ignore many for the sake of your one which does not even refer to Christ

I explained that to you. Theos when only God is spoken of = God--But when the true God is called Ton Theon and another called Theos in same paragraph, Theos= god.

 

[Keiw1]

And one knows Satan not Christ is being spoken of at 2Cor 4:4

while Christ is spoken of here

Titus 2:13 (NASB 2020) — 13 looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus,

2 Peter 1:1 (NASB 2020) — 1 Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ:

John 20:28 (NASB 2020) — 28 Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”




But for some reason you want to ignore that

And Paul warned everyone at 1 Cor 8:5-6 that all other gods are false then named only the Father as being God.

 

[e v e]

All living beings have a personal name-The HS=0

explain that to me... ?

i don't see entities or ITs to be living beings.

why do you say 0 ?

 

[e v e]

imagine that

it is incredible.

the last thing I ever expected ...
was in 2015... and everything changed after that

 

[e v e]

And Paul warned everyone at 1 Cor 8:5-6 that all other gods are false then named only the Father as being God.

i think to rephrase given that paul could be wrongly quoted , not by you on purpose , but I mean in the corrupt kjv text , since the false gods term isn't clear... and its only a line so what was the chapter context? I would need to see ...
since indeed all the 144k will be like Him
and were like Him before what adam did...
(as being in His image)

He is God , even having shared eden nature with His sons ... and no other comes before Him.
(though adam seems to think so,
being prince of the air)

and all the sons led by Christ
will rule with christ again in eden paradise...
what we lost .

Though Christ had a different situation as
the 144k .. being without sin yet
He went through daniel's oven (jerusalem
in the other reality) and was tortured even
before incarnating here, for us.

and having incarnated on this dungeon
earth so it would be possible for
all the 144k (and after trib also for much of jacob)
to go Home

the hieroglyphs brag about torturing us
that same way after the fall
... so so horrific...
and the glee with which they tell it
and of how they made eden fall.

 

[e v e]

that is the only goal of His Words to us ,
for us to return to Him to our eden paradise ,
for the 144k sons and daughters to meet Christ on the clouds

nothing else ..

 

[e v e]

@Keiw1
its easy to see a corruption of esau in kjv
whenever esau's intent in the transliteration
deviates from the goal of going Home
and creates an ugly concept about His nature

 

[e v e]

So, @Keiw1 , for me, for that quote you gave from Cor. to be crosschecked, the overall chapter and its intent would need to be determined. Not the line in isolation... and then other sections of the same theme. I never read a line isolated that way any more. while yes, look at a term's root, the whole chapter and maybe other chapters have to be looked at. For me anyway since I would need to find out what esau corrupted. Each has to be their own translator...

 

[TomL]

And Paul warned everyone at 1 Cor 8:5-6 that all other gods are false then named only the Father as being God.

So are you claiming Christ is a false God?

And seeing as Christ is the one lord, will you also state

The father is not lord?

 

[TomL]

I explained that to you. Theos when only God is spoken of = God--But when the true God is called Ton Theon and another called Theos in same paragraph, Theos= god.

According to whom? There is no such rule of grammar

If a second article was to appear that would make the Father and Jesus the same person which is modalism

However As I showed you, Christ is called ton theon at both Tit 2:13 and 2Pe 1:1 where he appears without the Father

 

[TomL]

An abstraction coming from the same realm as the tao/buddhist conception of the same ... that is what the evil realm does, offer us cookie cutter images and collapses things into black and white.

Actually It was a Platonist theory adopted into Classic theism