The Doctrine of Divine Simplicity

[TomL]

HalleluYAH @TomL

i did not know you had it in YAH

Good one!

 

[TomL]

In your error filled translation=God--The Greek lexicons prove its error.

Um that is a false claim

Scripture God's word

John 1:1 (KJV 1900) — 1 IN the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 20:28 (KJV 1900) — 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Hebrews 1:8–12 (KJV 1900) — 8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. 10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: 11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; 12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.

Titus 2:13 (UASV) — 13 Looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

2 Peter 1:1 (UASV) — 1 Simon Peter, a slave, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have acquired a faith as precious as ours through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

Philippians 2:5–6 (NIV) — 5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;

I doubt you are familar with many lexicons however


GOD
theos (θεός, 2316), (I) in the polytheism of the Greeks, denoted “a god or deity,” e.g., Acts 14:11; 19:26; 28:6; 1 Cor. 8:5; Gal. 4:8.
(II) (a) Hence the word was appropriated by Jews and retained by Christians to denote “the one true God.” In the Sept. theos translates (with few exceptions) the Hebrew words Elohim and Jehovah, the former indicating His power and preeminence, the latter His unoriginated, immutable, eternal and self-sustained existence.
In the NT, these and all the other divine attributes are predicated of Him. To Him are ascribed, e.g., His unity, or monism, e.g., Mark 12:29; 1 Tim. 2:5; self-existence, John 5:26; immutability, Jas. 1:17; eternity, Rom. 1:20; universality, Matt. 10:29; Acts 17:26–28; almighty power Matt. 19:26; infinite knowledge, Acts 2:23; 15:18; Rom. 11:33, creative power, Rom. 11:36; 1 Cor. 8:6; Eph. 3:9; Rev. 4:11; 10:6; absolute holiness, 1 Pet. 1:15; 1 John 1:5; righteousness, John 17:25; faithfulness, 1 Cor. 1:9; 10:13; 1 Thess. 5:24; 2 Thess. 3:3; 1 John 1:9; love, 1 John 4:8, 16; mercy, Rom. 9:15, 18; truthfulness, Titus 1:2; Heb. 6:18. See GOOD, No. 1 (b).
(b) The divine attributes are likewise indicated or definitely predicated of Christ, e.g., Matt. 20:18–19; John 1:1–3; 1:18, RV, marg.; 5:22–29; 8:58; 14:6; 17:22–24; 20:28; Rom. 1:4; 9:5; Phil. 3:21; Col. 1:15; 2:3; Titus 2:13, RV; Heb. 1:3; 13:8; 1 John 5:20; Rev. 22:12, 13.


W. E. Vine, Merrill F. Unger, and William White Jr., Vine’s Complete Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words (Nashville, TN: T. Nelson, 1996), 271.

You need to stop listening to the watchtower and read the Lexicons and their writers for themselves

 

[Keiw1]

GENESIS , EXODUS, ISAIAH, the GOSPEL ALL PROVE it is UNDENIABLE TRUTH

Run now from watchtower and into the LOVE of GOD = Adonai YAHshua HaMashiach = Lord Jesus Christ the SAVIOR

There is no proof in those bible books. Twisting Gods word makes it seem so.

 

[Keiw1]

READ and BELIEVE the TRUTH as listed in Post 352

It will SAVE your soul from the Lake of Fire.

Soul= a breathing being. Not a thing that lives on after death.

 

[Keiw1]

Um that is a false claim

Scripture God's word

John 1:1 (KJV 1900) — 1 IN the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 20:28 (KJV 1900) — 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Hebrews 1:8–12 (KJV 1900) — 8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. 10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: 11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; 12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.

Titus 2:13 (UASV) — 13 Looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

2 Peter 1:1 (UASV) — 1 Simon Peter, a slave, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have acquired a faith as precious as ours through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

Philippians 2:5–6 (NIV) — 5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;

I doubt you are familar with many lexicons however


GOD
theos (θεός, 2316), (I) in the polytheism of the Greeks, denoted “a god or deity,” e.g., Acts 14:11; 19:26; 28:6; 1 Cor. 8:5; Gal. 4:8.
(II) (a) Hence the word was appropriated by Jews and retained by Christians to denote “the one true God.” In the Sept. theos translates (with few exceptions) the Hebrew words Elohim and Jehovah, the former indicating His power and preeminence, the latter His unoriginated, immutable, eternal and self-sustained existence.
In the NT, these and all the other divine attributes are predicated of Him. To Him are ascribed, e.g., His unity, or monism, e.g., Mark 12:29; 1 Tim. 2:5; self-existence, John 5:26; immutability, Jas. 1:17; eternity, Rom. 1:20; universality, Matt. 10:29; Acts 17:26–28; almighty power Matt. 19:26; infinite knowledge, Acts 2:23; 15:18; Rom. 11:33, creative power, Rom. 11:36; 1 Cor. 8:6; Eph. 3:9; Rev. 4:11; 10:6; absolute holiness, 1 Pet. 1:15; 1 John 1:5; righteousness, John 17:25; faithfulness, 1 Cor. 1:9; 10:13; 1 Thess. 5:24; 2 Thess. 3:3; 1 John 1:9; love, 1 John 4:8, 16; mercy, Rom. 9:15, 18; truthfulness, Titus 1:2; Heb. 6:18. See GOOD, No. 1 (b).
(b) The divine attributes are likewise indicated or definitely predicated of Christ, e.g., Matt. 20:18–19; John 1:1–3; 1:18, RV, marg.; 5:22–29; 8:58; 14:6; 17:22–24; 20:28; Rom. 1:4; 9:5; Phil. 3:21; Col. 1:15; 2:3; Titus 2:13, RV; Heb. 1:3; 13:8; 1 John 5:20; Rev. 22:12, 13.


W. E. Vine, Merrill F. Unger, and William White Jr., Vine’s Complete Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words (Nashville, TN: T. Nelson, 1996), 271.

You need to stop listening to the watchtower and read the Lexicons and their writers for themselves

You can look it up--The Word is called the same exact word as satan in 2 Cor 4:4=god. While the true God in both spots is called a totally different word=God. Its why there is a difference. True God called Ton Theon at both spots, both the Word and satan called Theos at both spots to show a difference. If the Word were God he would be called Ton Theon at John 1:1. 100% fact. Its you being mislead out of your error filled translations.
god small g = has godlike qualities.

 

[TomL]

Soul= a breathing being. Not a thing that lives on after death.

Revelation 6:9 (KJV 1900) — 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

 

[Keiw1]

Revelation 6:9 (KJV 1900) — 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

That must be a huge alter since billions have died. (Or it is symbolism= truth.

 

[TomL]

You can look it up--The Word is called the same exact word as satan in 2 Cor 4:4=god. While the true God in both spots is called a totally different word=God. Its why there is a difference. True God called Ton Theon at both spots, both the Word and satan called Theos at both spots to show a difference. If the Word were God he would be called Ton Theon at John 1:1. 100% fact. Its you being mislead out of your error filled translations.
god small g = has godlike qualities.

Not in the vast majority of translations

Also the true God is also called Theon without the article in numerous places

short example from john's gospel

Were we to translate Theon without the article as a god

John 1:6–18 ) — 6 There was a man sent from a god, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of a god, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of a god. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. 16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. 17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. 18 No man hath seen a god at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

 

[TomL]

That must be a huge alter since billions have died. (Or it is symbolism= truth.

Um it is tribulation Martyrs

Revelation 6:9–11 (KJV 1900) — 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

and they were dead

 

[Keiw1]

Not in the vast majority of translations

Also the true God is also called Theon without the article in numerous places

short example from john's gospel

Were we to translate Theon without the article as a god

John 1:6–18 ) — 6 There was a man sent from a god, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of a god, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of a god. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. 16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. 17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. 18 No man hath seen a god at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Yes vast majority, used by a house divided, it will not stand.

 

[Keiw1]

Um it is tribulation Martyrs

Revelation 6:9–11 (KJV 1900) — 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

and they were dead

You are good at twistings things that are not there.

 

[TomL]

You are good at twistings things that are not there.

You have done nothing at all to support that claim biblically

Um it is tribulation Martyrs

Revelation 6:9–11 (KJV 1900) — 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

and they were dead

 

[TomL]

Yes vast majority, used by a house divided, it will not stand.

You never addressed this

Also the true God is also called Theon without the article in numerous places

short example from john's gospel

But were we to translate Theon without the article as a god we would have the following

John 1:6–18 ) — 6 There was a man sent from a god, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of a god, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of a god. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. 16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. 17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. 18 No man hath seen a god at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Showing the bias of your translators

 

[Keiw1]

You have done nothing at all to support that claim biblically

Um it is tribulation Martyrs

Revelation 6:9–11 (KJV 1900) — 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

and they were dead

Revelation has a lot of symbolism. Only through these-Matt 24:45 one is taught truth on matters.

 

[Keiw1]

You never addressed this

Also the true God is also called Theon without the article in numerous places

short example from john's gospel

But were we to translate Theon without the article as a god we would have the following

John 1:6–18 ) — 6 There was a man sent from a god, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of a god, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of a god. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. 16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. 17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. 18 No man hath seen a god at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Showing the bias of your translators

I did address it. When the true God is spoken of alone as God all know who it speaks of. At John 1:1 and 2 Cor 4:4 =2 are being called God and god, thus the difference in the words given to each one.

 

[TomL]

I did address it. When the true God is spoken of alone as God all know who it speaks of. At John 1:1 and 2 Cor 4:4 =2 are being called God and god, thus the difference in the words given to each one.

So you begin with an assumption as the identity of the true God

That is not how grammar works

Also the true God is also called Theon without the article in numerous places

short example from john's gospel

But were we to translate Theon without the article as a god we would have the following

John 1:6–18 ) — 6 There was a man sent from a god, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of a god, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of a god. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. 16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. 17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. 18 No man hath seen a god at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

The presense or absence of the article does not function as your translators claim

 

[TomL]

Revelation has a lot of symbolism. Only through these-Matt 24:45 one is taught truth on matters.

Have any evidence theist the following should not be understood as it is read?

Revelation 6:9–11 (KJV 1900) — 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

These are tribulation Martyrs and they were dead

and what relation has

Matthew 24:45 (KJV 1900) — 45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?

to the passage

The watchtower has assumed this title for itself and asked you to give up all critical thinking.

 

[Keiw1]

So you begin with an assumption as the identity of the true God

That is not how grammar works

Also the true God is also called Theon without the article in numerous places

short example from john's gospel

But were we to translate Theon without the article as a god we would have the following

John 1:6–18 ) — 6 There was a man sent from a god, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of a god, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of a god. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. 16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. 17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. 18 No man hath seen a god at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

The presense or absence of the article does not function as your translators claim

No matter what you or your teachers say-The Word is given the same exact word as satan is given at 2 Cor 4:4=god at both spots.

 

[Keiw1]

Have any evidence theist the following should not be understood as it is read?

Revelation 6:9–11 (KJV 1900) — 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

These are tribulation Martyrs and they were dead

and what relation has

Matthew 24:45 (KJV 1900) — 45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?

to the passage

The watchtower has assumed this title for itself and asked you to give up all critical thinking.

Yes dead= All thought stops on the day of ones death--they are not alive.

 

[TomL]

Yes dead= All thought stops on the day of ones death--they are not alive.

Um that does not address the scripture

Have any evidence theist the following should not be understood as it is read?

Revelation 6:9–11 (KJV 1900) — 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

These are tribulation Martyrs and they were dead