The 5 Articles of Remonstrance (Arminianism)

This is from another thread on our forum that I reposted here so we can all see the differences between Soteriology of determinists and non determinists.​


The following will compare the soteriology of Arminianism with Calvinism. Calvinism soteriology is most often associated with the acronym TULIP while Arminian soteriology does not have a universally accepted acronym.


This is the one point that both agree on. As a consequence of the fall, mankind is totally depraved. This does not mean he is as bad as he can possibly be. But it does mean that he is incapable, in his own efforts, of coming to God for salvation. Apart from the working of God’s grace, there can be no salvation.

Arminian soteriology holds to a conditional election. God elects, or chooses, all of those who respond in faith to his gift of salvation. We are able to respond, not because of something innately in us, but because of the enabling of the Holy Spirit via prevenient grace. The logical progression of salvation starts with the working of the Holy Spirit, enabling faith; a human response to the offer of salvation; and then regeneration.

Calvinist soteriology holds to what they call an unconditional election. That God sovereignly chooses some for salvation, independently of anything that the one chosen may believe or do. The logical ordering in salvation starts with God choosing those who will be saved; then regenerating and granting faith to the chosen, and then faith is exercised by the chosen and regenerated.

Arminianism holds to unlimited atonement. Christ’s atoning work on the cross was for all people, although it is effective only for those who believe. This is not universalism. While the atonement was for all, only those who believe receive its benefit.


Calvinism, on the other hand, generally holds to limited atonement. Christ’s atoning work on the cross was only for the elect. Atonement is only available for those God has foreordained to salvation. Some Calvinists reject this and accept unlimited atonement. This is also the point at which Lutherans disagree with Calvinists, rejecting limited atonement.

Arminian soteriology argues that the prevenient grace of God that is given to the unbeliever enables faith. Salvation is then offered as a gift that may either be accepted or rejected. The work of the Holy Spirit is resistible.

In contrast, Calvinism holds to irresistible grace. The Holy Spirit works in the life of the elect to bring them into a relationship with Christ. This working of the Holy Spirit is irresistible, all of the foreordained will come to faith.

This is the point that divides Arminians. We all believe that those who persist in their faith will be saved in the end. Some believe that all true believers will persist. Others accept the possibility that true believers have the ability to turn their backs on the grace of God. And, as a result, lose their salvation.

As you can see, there are some significant differences in how John Calvin and Jacob Arminius, and their respective followers, view the doctrine of salvation. But more significant than these differences is how they view the character of God. While both view God as sovereign, they understand the sovereignty of God in different ways. For the Calvinist, sovereignty implies complete and total control of everything that happens in the creation. If anyone is able to perform some action or make some decision that is not at God’s direction, then God is not sovereign.


This issue of this understanding of God’s sovereignty is what led Jacob Arminius to reject the soteriology of Calvinism. He saw divine determinism (God determines everything) as making God the author of sin. And that, to him, removed any real responsibility for sin from humanity. If a person can only act in accordance with God’s decrees, then when they sin it is a result of God’s decree; it is what God wanted them to do. For Arminius, God was sovereign over all of his creation. But that sovereignty included God’s permissive will, allowing humanity to act at odds with God’s desired will. But even as God allows evil, he uses it to accomplish his purpose. Our human choices are never unexpected or allowed to interfere with God’s purpose in creation.

The other issue Arminius had with the Calvinism of his day is in their related doctrine of predestination. Calvin modeled his doctrine of predestination after Augustine. God has chosen some to salvation prior to creation, irrespective of anything the individual might be or do. God seemingly arbitrarily chooses some to salvation. Some Calvinists will also argue that God has specifically chosen the rest of humanity to an eternity in hell. Others argue against that double predestination, but the result is the same. If you are not among the chosen, you are among the damned. To Arminius, this pictured God as a monster; creating some humans with no actual hope of escaping from the fires of hell.

Instead, Arminius, appealing to the Scripture as well as the early church fathers, argued that God loves all of humanity. An that he enables everyone to believe. Those that he foreknows will respond in faith he elects, while those who do not are condemned to damnation. But that condemnation is a result of a rejection of God’s grace, not an arbitrary action on God’s part. The Calvinist will argue that my choice to accept God’s offer of grace is an action on my part. Thus making salvation at least partly based on my own efforts. But Arminius responded that a free gift received, is still a free gift. My accepting the gift does not in any way constitute an earning of that gift on my part.

Calvinists accuse Arminians of focusing on human free will, although they also claim to accept it after a fashion. But Arminius’ use of human free will was not to elevate humanity. Rather it was to make them responsible for their own sin, rather than making God responsible for it. Salvation is no less a work of God because I have the ability to accept or reject it.

hope this helps !!!!
Thanks Civic.
Nice to know what Arminius believed.
I also understand that he used to be a Calvinist.

I keep getting called an Arminian, but, quite frankly, I don't really care about him or what he believed.

I do believe that all we need to know is in scripture so I just concentrate on that.
My only other source is the early church fathers when they all agreed.
§That would be the very beginning of the church.
They were taught by the Apostles so I would tend to beleive that what they wrote to be what they were taught.

I do agree, however, with what you've stated that Arminius believed.
Great explanation of OSAS too...I believe salvation could be forfeited....but you explained both views perfectly.
Thanks!
 
As far as "nonsensical", I do believe the terms are generally understood relative to election. That is where the issue really begins. Everything is "fabricated" around how individuals see themselves relative to election.
The issue really begins with the Augustine's injection of his Manichaenistic Gnosticism of Total Depravity into Christian soteriology. Once that is accepted, then the rest of the Calvinist/Reformed Theology becomes necessary. Get rid of the concept of Total Depravity, interpret Scripture as it is written and without the Total Depravity and correct teaching for soteriology naturally follows.
 
The issue really begins with the Augustine's injection of his Manichaenistic Gnosticism of Total Depravity into Christian soteriology. Once that is accepted, then the rest of the Calvinist/Reformed Theology becomes necessary. Get rid of the concept of Total Depravity, interpret Scripture as it is written and without the Total Depravity and correct teaching for soteriology naturally follows.
Perfect Jim!
Total Depravity makes man unable to seek God.
So, naturally, God must make all the decisions for him.
Having to make all the decisions for him...
man loses his free will.
Since he has no free will, God's grace must be accepted even by coercion...
and, God gets to choose who will be saved - based on nothing that we can perceive.
Since it is God that chooses the saved...of course He will keep them saved.
And, of course, Jesus died only for the elect....or everyone would be saved.

There is not one sentence above that projects the teachings of the biblical God...

But of a manechean gnostic, as you've stated, that brought his gnostic beliefs to the Catholic
faith, and which even the CC of today rejects.

And...in the 5th century.....before which none of his ideas were included in the theology of the early church.
 
Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified [past tense and dead] the flesh with its passions and desires.” Galatians 5:24 (NIV 2011) [This verse should have retained the translated sinful nature, for passions and desires are associated specifically with it.]

“In him you were also circumcised with a circumcision not performed by human hands. Your whole self ruled by the flesh was put off [paste tense; what is circumcised/removed is never again part of the body] when you were circumcised by Christ,” Colossians 2:11 (NIV 2011)

“For when we were [past tense] in the realm of the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death.” Romans 7:5 (NIV 2011) [This is another case where sinful nature should have been retained, since the verse is obviously referring to a nature and not the body. If it were the body, we would still be in it, however the verse notes that we were in the flesh.]

You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.” Romans 8:9 (NIV 2011)
 
unfortunately the NIV mistranslated sarx/flesh as sin nature.
Not quite. In Romans 7:18,25 the NIV mistranslated sarx as "sinful nature". That is not the same as sin nature. Nevertheless, neither sin nature nor sinful nature are ever appropriate interpretations for the Greek word "sarx". It could be translated as human nature. That is, the human being has the propensity to disobey God's law. That was demonstrated by the first humans, Adam and Eve. That propensity is better represented as free will. God gave us human beings the ability to know, understand and decide for ourselves whether or not we would obey Him. Many, perhaps most, obey Him in most things, but everyone, sooner or later, will disobey God in something. Only Jesus obeyed perfectly.
 
unfortunately the NIV mistranslated sarx/flesh as sin nature.
This is also for @Jim......

It's not up to the NIV to dictate doctrine.

The sin nature is that part of man's nature that has been affected by sin.
It is NOT a different nature...which would give to man TWO natures, and, of course, man has
only one nature...the human nature.

Flesh IS the sin nature.
Some call it flesh,,,some call it sin nature,,,some call it the sinful nature,,,some concupiscense, some call it the old self....etc.

It's ALL THE SAME....
It's that thing in us that let's us TEND TOWARD SIN before we are born again.

It's name is not what's important...."a rose by any other name" is still a rose.
What IS important is that we understand that we have a part of us that is what makes man tend toward sin.
(when we are walking in the flesh and not in the Spirit).

When Paul speaks of The Flesh....he is speaking of this part of us, which some call the sin nature.
 
Not quite. In Romans 7:18,25 the NIV mistranslated sarx as "sinful nature". That is not the same as sin nature. Nevertheless, neither sin nature nor sinful nature are ever appropriate interpretations for the Greek word "sarx". It could be translated as human nature. That is, the human being has the propensity to disobey God's law. That was demonstrated by the first humans, Adam and Eve. That propensity is better represented as free will. God gave us human beings the ability to know, understand and decide for ourselves whether or not we would obey Him. Many, perhaps most, obey Him in most things, but everyone, sooner or later, will disobey God in something. Only Jesus obeyed perfectly.
Jim....what's the difference between SIN NATURE and SINFUL NATURE??

What does sarx mean in Koine Greek?
 
Not quite. In Romans 7:18,25 the NIV mistranslated sarx as "sinful nature". That is not the same as sin nature. Nevertheless, neither sin nature nor sinful nature are ever appropriate interpretations for the Greek word "sarx". It could be translated as human nature. That is, the human being has the propensity to disobey God's law. That was demonstrated by the first humans, Adam and Eve. That propensity is better represented as free will. God gave us human beings the ability to know, understand and decide for ourselves whether or not we would obey Him. Many, perhaps most, obey Him in most things, but everyone, sooner or later, will disobey God in something. Only Jesus obeyed perfectly.
You said:

" It could be translated as human nature. That is, the human being has the propensity to disobey God's law. "

You've stated exactly what the sin, sinful nature is.
So why don't you agree with the term?

It's just a term for man's condition prior to salvation.
 
Couplet 2:

– God takes no pleasure in the final destruction of any.
– God finds pleasure in the salvation of every person who is saved.

God finds no joy in the death of any sinner. “Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, says the Lord God, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live?” he asks rhetorically in Ezekiel 18:23 (see also Eze. 18:32, 33:11). He is not vengeful or vindictive. The Creator dues not delight in the destruction of any person he has made, not even his enemies. He desires “all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth” (1 Tim. 2:4). Whoever is finally lost will not see God smiling as a result. Indeed, the Son of God says, there is celebration in heaven over every sinner who repents (Luke 15:7, 10).
This is probably the core of the single greatest complaint people have with the concept of "PREDESTINATION" since it is immediately linked to "HARD DETERMINISM" and, therefore, appears to clearly violate this couplet. As a Baptist Compatibalist (thus rejecting HARD DETERMINISM), I fully acknowledge this couplet and seek reconciliation with verses that describe "foreknowkedge" and "chosen" and "predestination" as an act of God. In that, both the "FREE WILL" advocates and I fall on the same side of these verses/this couplet ... YES and AMEN:
  • God takes no pleasure in the final destruction of any and finds pleasure in the salvation of every person who is saved!

There are some HARD DETERMINISTS that would disagree with both of us (FREE WILL-ies and COMPATIBAL-ists).
... they have a right to be wrong. ;)
 
This is probably the core of the single greatest complaint people have with the concept of "PREDESTINATION" since it is immediately linked to "HARD DETERMINISM" and, therefore, appears to clearly violate this couplet. As a Baptist Compatibalist (thus rejecting HARD DETERMINISM), I fully acknowledge this couplet and seek reconciliation with verses that describe "foreknowkedge" and "chosen" and "predestination" as an act of God. In that, both the "FREE WILL" advocates and I fall on the same side of these verses/this couplet ... YES and AMEN:
  • God takes no pleasure in the final destruction of any and finds pleasure in the salvation of every person who is saved!

There are some HARD DETERMINISTS that would disagree with both of us (FREE WILL-ies and COMPATIBAL-ists).
... they have a right to be wrong. ;)
Determinism.
Hard determinism.

What's the difference?

If the outcome is the same.

God,,,in Calvinist theology, is not a just God.

There is NO RECONCILIATION between
FOREKNOWLEDGE and PREDESTINATION

We either have free will or we do not.
Compatibilism is Not free will....
as much as some I've posted to seem to believe that it is.
 
Not quite. In Romans 7:18,25 the NIV mistranslated sarx as "sinful nature". That is not the same as sin nature. Nevertheless, neither sin nature nor sinful nature are ever appropriate interpretations for the Greek word "sarx". It could be translated as human nature. That is, the human being has the propensity to disobey God's law. That was demonstrated by the first humans, Adam and Eve. That propensity is better represented as free will. God gave us human beings the ability to know, understand and decide for ourselves whether or not we would obey Him. Many, perhaps most, obey Him in most things, but everyone, sooner or later, will disobey God in something. Only Jesus obeyed perfectly.
Sarx = flesh

it represents the nature for man to service his flesh, which by definition, when we seek after things that satisfy our flesh, it is called sin.

so a way to see this, would be like this

flesh nature (the nature to serve self) which would equal a sin nature which by definition is serving self
 
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