Taking credit for your salvation

Two things: 1) Civic beat me to quoting Barnes who nails the meaning, and 2) to expand of this, faith is in the objective sense not the active sense. So even if the traditional adding of “our” to faith is accepted, “our faith” would be referring to our set of beliefs, and standard of living- of which Christ is both author and completer, beginning and end, captain and conqueror.


Doug
Amen
 
In Presby02's view that means God irresistibly unilaterally causes faith in man

Are you now affirming that?
I know what you are doing @TomL and you are barking up the wrong tree-no offense.
 
You are avoiding a reply

You responded in a positive manner to his words

his view is

God irresistibly unilaterally causes faith in man

Are you now affirming that?
I gave you a little assignment and you are avoiding it @TomL-you are running hither and thither so why should I have a dialogue with you?
And by dialogue I mean that would be edifying to the body of our Lord Jesus Christ and grace/Chen to the readers?

Col 2:6 Therefore, as you received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in him,
Col 2:7 rooted and built up in him and established in the faith, just as you were taught, abounding in thanksgiving.
Col 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.
Col 2:9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
Col 2:10 and you have been filled in him, who is the head of all rule and authority.
Col 2:11 In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ,
Col 2:12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead.
Col 2:13 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses,
Col 2:14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.
Col 2:15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him.
 
I gave you a little assignment and you are avoiding it @TomL-you are running hither and thither so why should I have a dialogue with you?
And by dialogue I mean that would be edifying to the body of our Lord Jesus Christ and grace/Chen to the readers?

Col 2:6 Therefore, as you received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in him,
Col 2:7 rooted and built up in him and established in the faith, just as you were taught, abounding in thanksgiving.
Col 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.
Col 2:9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
Col 2:10 and you have been filled in him, who is the head of all rule and authority.
Col 2:11 In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ,
Col 2:12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead.
Col 2:13 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses,
Col 2:14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.
Col 2:15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him.
I did not ask you for an assignment

I did ask you a question

You responded in a positive manner to his words

his view is

God irresistibly unilaterally causes faith in man

Are you now affirming that?

Why are you avoiding a reply and attempting a diversion?
 
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