praise_yeshua
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No. The new birth is power from God to be born again. Why don't you understand?
Taking credit for your salvation
- Thread starter The Rogue Tomato
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Well, you said faith. Nothing about being born again.
praise_yeshua
Active Member
I didn't use the words born again. I can't help you don't know what synonyms are. That is your problem. Most everything you complain about is your problem. I'm not going to tolerate your typical actions. Ask someone else.
civic
Active Member
Amen
civic
Active Member
Yep so much for his conflating them again
Faith and born again are synonymous terms?
Um he is saying the opposite
"No one here believes that faith has the power to save. The power is always with God."
That would be the power to save
And it's power is derived from God because it's source is God.
Ultimately God is the cause of all things. Hence faith is a gift of God.
Johann
Active Member
That alone should bring us to our knees in humble adoration.
No you are the ultimate cause of your own sin not God
In Presby02's view that means God irresistibly unilaterally causes faith in man
Are you now affirming that?
And God is the ultimate cause of you, the sinner.
Amen
You are avoiding a reply
You responded in a positive manner to his words
his view is
God irresistibly unilaterally causes faith in man
Are you now affirming that?
Johann
Active Member
I gave you a little assignment and you are avoiding it @TomL-you are running hither and thither so why should I have a dialogue with you?
And by dialogue I mean that would be edifying to the body of our Lord Jesus Christ and grace/Chen to the readers?
Col 2:6 Therefore, as you received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in him,
Col 2:7 rooted and built up in him and established in the faith, just as you were taught, abounding in thanksgiving.
Col 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.
Col 2:9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
Col 2:10 and you have been filled in him, who is the head of all rule and authority.
Col 2:11 In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ,
Col 2:12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead.
Col 2:13 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses,
Col 2:14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.
Col 2:15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him.
I did not ask you for an assignment
I did ask you a question
You responded in a positive manner to his words
his view is
God irresistibly unilaterally causes faith in man
Are you now affirming that?
Why are you avoiding a reply and attempting a diversion?
