Starts Now The Deity of Jesus Christ True or False?

[Keiw1]

Catholic error is with worship of Mary and statues and the pope/priests.

jw error is NWT

Holy Spirit Truth Says: You and i and all of mankind were created by the LORD Jesus Christ = Colossians 1:15-18

JESUS is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or [e]principalities or [f]powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.

God fixed his bible=NWT--- You best relook.
Coll says-THROUGH HIM= another did it.

 

[DavidTree]

God fixed his bible=NWT--- You best relook.
Coll says-THROUGH HIM= another did it.

@Kiew1

Everyone who knows and loves the LORD knows that NWT John 1:1 is a blatant lie.

Here is how we know:
Deuteronomy 5:7
‘I am the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
‘You shall have no other gods before Me.
Isaiah 45:21 -
Tell and bring forth your case; Yes, let them take counsel together. Who has declared this from ancient time? Who has told it from that time? Have not I, the LORD?
And there is no other God besides Me, A just God and a Savior; There is none besides Me.

Satan always tries to "fix" God's Word
Save yourself from Judgment thru the only Savior who can wash away your sins = the LORD Jesus Christ

 

[DavidTree]

I can answer that, but let me ask for clarifcaiton. Which Holy One are you talking about? Are you talking about the Holy Ones in Daniel 7 or Psalm 16? Or God? Be specific.

Isaiah 45:11
Thus says the Lord,
The Holy One of Israel, and his Maker:

Question: Is the 'Holy One' of the OT the One who watched over Israel, guiding and gathering Her unto Himself???

YES or NO

 

[DavidTree]

This is a Official invite to @FreeInChrist who will share some FYI on the NWT

@FreeInChrist - please post the info you have for us - Thank You

 

[Runningman]

The Holy One from Isaiah 45:11

Thus says the Lord,
The Holy One of Israel, and his Maker:

The only Holy One in the Old Testament is God. That rules out Jesus.

 

[Runningman]

Who is the Holy One in 1 John 2:20?

Who is the Holy One Of Israel?

 

[Runningman]

God.

Correct.

You can stop dodging my question concerning 1 John 2:20 now.

So you confessed that the Holy One of Israel is God. Did you know Jesus is never called that title in the entire Bible?

 

[civic]

Why are you scared of 1 John 2:20?

Even the demons know that and called Him that.

 

[DavidTree]

The only Holy One in the Old Testament is God. That rules out Jesus.

Well, let us SEE if your statement is true based on the Holy Scriptures of Truth.

Truth #1 - You answered correctly in that the Holy One spoken of by the prophet Isaiah is the Elohim of Genesis ch1

Truth #2 - As you pointed out there are other 'holy ones' which are angels and also the Saints.

Question #2 - Which Holy One is JESUS?
a.) The Holy One spoken of by Isaiah who is Elohim and thusly Israel's Maker.
b.) one of the holy ones = holy angels
c.) a man who is a holy one - same as any other Believer in Elohim from the OT till today.

@Runningman, think carefully here because JESUS will be either a, b or c

 

[Runningman]

Why are you scared of 1 John 2:20?

So you confessed that the Holy One of Israel is God. Did you know Jesus is never called that title in the entire Bible?

 

[Runningman]

Even the demons know that and called Him that.

No one ever called Jesus "The Holy One of Israel" in the Bible. Get over it already.

 

[Runningman]

Post in thread 'Starts Now The Deity of Jesus Christ True or False?'

Aug 22, 2025

The Angel who appeared to Mary said HE is the Holy One

The OT Prophets call Him the Holy One

The Demons know that JESUS is the Holy One and are terrified of Him

JESUS declared that HE is the Holy One of Israel to the Jews.

All of Heaven declare Him as the Holy One = Revelation

@Runningman, now it is for your eternal glory to worship with all the Saints and Angels declaring JESUS as your Holy Savior!!!

Oh stop it. There are a couple dozen titles Jesus and God don't have in common. "The Holy one of Israel" is a title Jesus is never called. Yes, Jesus is God's chosen...

• Runningman

You are incorrect, because Jesus is "the Holy One" in 1 John 2:20.

Jesus was never called "the Holy One of Israel" using that exact terminology.

 

[Runningman]

Well, let us SEE if your statement is true based on the Holy Scriptures of Truth.

Truth #1 - You answered correctly in that the Holy One spoken of by the prophet Isaiah is the Elohim of Genesis ch1

Truth #2 - As you pointed out there are other 'holy ones' which are angels and also the Saints.

Question #2 - Which Holy One is JESUS?
a.) The Holy One spoken of by Isaiah who is Elohim and thusly Israel's Maker.
b.) one of the holy ones = holy angels
c.) a man who is a holy one - same as any other Believer in Elohim from the OT till today.

@Runningman, think carefully here because JESUS will be either a, b or c

Yes Jesus was never called "the Holy one of Israel." You all have lost that point. You also have no examples of Jesus incarnating.

 

[Runningman]

@Administrator is this still a closed debate? I was not aware that the opposing side having forfeited, if so. There are others posting in this thread now.

 

[Runningman]

Your false assertion in post 251 has been shattered.

Fess up!

Jesus was never called "the holy one of Israel" in the bible. The statement doesn't exist. Anyway, this is a closed debate. See post #1. I have called on the admin to take a look at it. If the trins have forfeited, I will accept that, but I was not aware if that's what happened. You and @civic nor anyone else outside of the debate should be posting here. It's distracting and it's derailing the debate.

 

[Runningman]

Your post 251 is still in error.

You won't find Jesus being called "The Holy One of Israel" in the Bible. "Holy One" yes, but as was already proven, there are many "Holy Ones" in the Bible because that's what the word "saint" means. But "The Holy One of Israel" no. You guys shouldn't claim things that are not stated in the Bible.

 

[Runningman]

You should find post 251 to be in error as well.

Is this a game of who gets the last word? You won't find Jesus being called "The Holy One of Israel" in the Bible.

 

[DavidTree]

Yes Jesus was never called "the Holy one of Israel." You all have lost that point. You also have no examples of Jesus incarnating.

Please choose the correct answer from the Holy Scriptures.

Question #2 - Which Holy One is JESUS?
a.) The Holy One spoken of by Isaiah who is Elohim and thusly Israel's Maker.
b.) one of the holy ones = holy angels
c.) a man who is a holy one - same as any other Believer in Elohim from the OT till today.

 

[Administrator]

@Administrator is this still a closed debate? I was not aware that the opposing side having forfeited, if so. There are others posting in this thread now.

Here are the debaters. Please do not post here if you are not on the list

Side A

1. Peterlag
2. Runningman
3. keiw1

Side B

1. Red Baker
2. 360watt
3. DavidTree

 

[Administrator]

Here are the debaters. Please do not post here if you are not on the list.

Side A

1. Peterlag
2. Runningman
3. keiw1

Side B

1. Red Baker
2. 360watt
3. DavidTree