Revelation is for NOW, not the FUTURE?

[Selah]

I think i remember you from a big ol site known as worthy my friend .
KEEP trenching onwards in the LORD . The hour is late .

Yep…That’s me in that ol’ trench next to yours, frienduff.

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

Yes, the peace of these end times is fake, full of false teachings.

There is no peace.

Jeremiah 8:11-12 (NKJV) 11 For they have healed the hurt of the daughter of My people slightly, Saying, ‘Peace, peace!’ When [there is] no peace. 12 Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? No! They were not at all ashamed, Nor did they know how to blush. Therefore they shall fall among those who fall; In the time of their punishment They shall be cast down,” says the LORD.

Yes indeed my friend .
its all a false peace promise full of false teachings .
And none does repent of his wickedness for they promise them life .
God even warned them , HAD YOU actually preached MY WORDS to this people they had repented .
ITS the same thing my friend .
THEY do nothing but preach the smooth lies and false love and promise peace
and the wicked REPENTS NOT for they have promised him life .
Kinda like what an apostel wrote.
WHILE THEY PROMISE THEM LIBERTY , they themselves are the servants of sin .

 

[101G]

Okay, okay… so you’re a preterist? No wonder we can’t agree.

LOL, LOL, LOL, no, 101G is not a preterist.

… but when THE Antichrist (Satan) does arrive, many who don’t know the Truth will be deceived. It’s called the great apostasy.

who said that satan is the only antichrist?

So brethren, the point Paul clearly made in 2 Thessalonians 2 should never be forgotten. The sentence is so straightforward that anyone should be able to understand what is written.

2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 (NKJV) 1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit 9or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for [that Day will not come] unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

Once again, Paul said "let no man deceive you by any means, for that day (the day of Christ's return) shall NOT come until there is a great apostasy when the man of sin, the son of perdition is revealed."

Now then, given the revelation of that “man of sin” which is Satan (the ANTICHRIST), how can anyone read that line and yet believe that Christ can return at any time?

Satan comes first before Jesus.

LOL, LOL, LOL, LISTEN CAREFULLY. Genesis 49:10 "The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be."

when did the Messiah started to Gather the people? THINK before you answer..... so, tell us when. looking for your answer...... (smile)

101G

 

[DavidTree]

Something that many have also missed is
WHO , who by PEACE shall destroy many .
Now lets examine this interfaith interreligious dialgoue
and we would have seen it is of many anti christs .
BUT HERE IS what many are also not seeing .
And i nearly fell backwards when i seen it
IT WAS WRITTEN IN DANIEL selah .
WHAT DOES this man do , He makes a covenant
HE also does something and i nearly fell back when i seen
what is going on with many WITHIN this covenant .
HE DIVIDES THE LAND FOR GAIN .
THEY ARE DIVIDING JERUSALEM and etc IN THIS PEACE PACT . HE DIVIDES THE LAND FOR GAIN .
ITS HERE . its COMING right in front of our faces .
AND NOW we have AI . AN Image that can speak
that is set up over a digital system , THAT IF ONE NO COMPLIES HE NO BUYS OR SELLS .
ITS ALL COMING DOWN and fast my friend . AND he giveth life unto the IMAGE
so that it can speak and cause that as many
AI , PRODUCES SPEAKING IMAGES and IT WILL RUN THE DIGTIAL SYSTEM .

The City will be divided into THREE parts.

 

[Marvelloustime]

Yes indeed my friend .
its all a false peace promise full of false teachings .
And none does repent of his wickedness for they promise them life .
God even warned them , HAD YOU actually preached MY WORDS to this people they had repented .
ITS the same thing my friend .
THEY do nothing but preach the smooth lies and false love and promise peace
and the wicked REPENTS NOT for they have promised him life .
Kinda like what an apostel wrote.
WHILE THEY PROMISE THEM LIBERTY , they themselves are the servants of sin .

@TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY
“Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life:”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭13:22

 

[Marvelloustime]

WE sure are my friend . And he shall not regaurd the desire of women
He shall reguard no god for he exalts himself above all .
Here is when we were warned the time would look like when it arose .
AND at the time of the end when the TRANSGRESSORS HAVE COME TO THE FULL .
LOOK AROUND its ALL OVER THE PLACE that sin is no longer hidden but even honored in the streets .
THERE SHALL ARISE A KING . THIS WORLD IS RIPE we are right in those days right now .
ALL HAS BEEN PREPARED for this hour and the delusions have run their course
to lead and to make ready a people FOR ANTI CHRIST not CHRIST .
its all been unfolding . THERE are so many things in scrips .
But the one thing that did shock me was what i had wrote earlier.
LOOK at how accurate it was . HE SHALL DIVIDE THE LAND FOR GAIN . and they plan to Divide the land

@TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY
“Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭2‬:‭18‬ ‭KJV

 

[armylngst]

Hello @101G
Let me ask you this: has the Antichrist, who appears at the Sixth Trump and poses as Jesus, made an appearance? No, it hasn't happened yet.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 (NKJV) 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for [that Day will not come] unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

It's TRUMP!!! I mean, I feel that Trump is an archetype of what could be. I mean, he checks some of the boxes. The United States is considered an empire by many. We have the exact same government system as Rome, the Republic. We are a "united" country, yet we are divided. Could represent the iron/clay and toes of Nebuchadnezzar's statue. There aren't that many places that fit the description of the division as we do. He was almost assassinated, and our view, our understanding of what happened could be clouded. He was part of the push for the Abrahamic Accords (an accord is related to a covenant). He said he would strengthen it if he had a second term. He already had other signatories lined up before he lost the election. If he does actually get more countries to sign on now, with four years inbetween, he would definitely be strengthening it.

All that sounds so cool, but it doesn't mean a thing. Wishful/hopeful thinking. However, I would believe that it is at most a preview of what it could be like. An idea of what a fulfillment of the prophecy could look like. Things in the world seem to be lining up. The trampling of Jerusalem could come to an end soon, especially since Trump took the first step to recognize Jerusalem as the rightful capital of Israel by moving our embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Right now, the world is turning more and more against Israel. People are now even referring to Jews as Nazis. All I can say is watch, wait, be ready. Trump's sanity seems to have slipped quite a bit in recent times.

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

It's TRUMP!!! I mean, I feel that Trump is an archetype of what could be. I mean, he checks some of the boxes. The United States is considered an empire by many. We have the exact same government system as Rome, the Republic. We are a "united" country, yet we are divided. Could represent the iron/clay and toes of Nebuchadnezzar's statue. There aren't that many places that fit the description of the division as we do. He was almost assassinated, and our view, our understanding of what happened could be clouded. He was part of the push for the Abrahamic Accords (an accord is related to a covenant). He said he would strengthen it if he had a second term. He already had other signatories lined up before he lost the election. If he does actually get more countries to sign on now, with four years inbetween, he would definitely be strengthening it.

All that sounds so cool, but it doesn't mean a thing. Wishful/hopeful thinking. However, I would believe that it is at most a preview of what it could be like. An idea of what a fulfillment of the prophecy could look like. Things in the world seem to be lining up. The trampling of Jerusalem could come to an end soon, especially since Trump took the first step to recognize Jerusalem as the rightful capital of Israel by moving our embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Right now, the world is turning more and more against Israel. People are now even referring to Jews as Nazis. All I can say is watch, wait, be ready. Trump's sanity seems to have slipped quite a bit in recent times.

What if i told you that which is of anti christ has been at work
and that in fact we now have many many anti christs and many of them are also at work within
Christendom .
No doubt trump n vance do the working of anti christ through the liberal progressive pope led
interfaith finding common ground . no doubt .
But that list is a long one my friend who does its bidding .
JESUS is being denied
the dire need to BELEIVE ON HIM to be saved IS BEING denied
all n favor of this big ol sin accepting unbelief accepting road that many think is love and of GOD .
MANY are the anti christs now at work . You will find them in pulpits as well fleecing flocks
and selling the lie . we better all beware and be on guard
for many are the children of the Harlot and do her bidding to lead this
people as ONE right to the day of perdtion by promising them this will bring peace n safety on earth .
many have no idea they do the work and are co helpers to that which is of anti christ .
AND we darn sure dont want to be a co helper in any way to that.

 

[armylngst]

What if i told you that which is of anti christ has been at work

I would, in all honestly, ask when it hasn't been.

and that in fact we now have many many anti christs and many of them are also at work within
Christendom .

No argument there.

No doubt trump n vance do the working of anti christ through the liberal progressive pope led
interfaith finding common ground . no doubt .

Vance is a question mark to me. I just consider Trump for what he has done. Having heard the state of the Catholic Church a couple/few years ago, it is bad. The previous pope spent his time dismantling the church for what he didn't like, and filling it with his people. The damage is deep, severe, and perhaps they won't truly recover.

But that list is a long one my friend who does its bidding .
JESUS is being denied
the dire need to BELEIVE ON HIM to be saved IS BEING denied
all n favor of this big ol sin accepting unbelief accepting road that many think is love and of GOD .
MANY are the anti christs now at work . You will find them in pulpits as well fleecing flocks
and selling the lie . we better all beware and be on guard
for many are the children of the Harlot and do her bidding to lead this
people as ONE right to the day of perdtion by promising them this will bring peace n safety on earth .
many have no idea they do the work and are co helpers to that which is of anti christ .
AND we darn sure dont want to be a co helper in any way to that.

The state of the church today is bad. The state of the true church is surviving amidst the turbulence. The church is full of people whose hearts are empty, whose minds and souls are deceived. They intellectually assent, but there is six inches between the mind and the heart which they just can't cover. The prosperity gospel has taken over in America. And Trump has his so called evangelicals. A circus is what he has. He has been as much poisoned by them, as he has poisoned them. These are indeed strange times.

 

[Selah]

The City will be divided into THREE parts.

Very true. …and Babylon is fallen, is fallen!

Revelation 16:19 (NKJV) Now the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. And great Babylon was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath.

 

[civic]

It's TRUMP!!! I mean, I feel that Trump is an archetype of what could be. I mean, he checks some of the boxes. The United States is considered an empire by many. We have the exact same government system as Rome, the Republic. We are a "united" country, yet we are divided. Could represent the iron/clay and toes of Nebuchadnezzar's statue. There aren't that many places that fit the description of the division as we do. He was almost assassinated, and our view, our understanding of what happened could be clouded. He was part of the push for the Abrahamic Accords (an accord is related to a covenant). He said he would strengthen it if he had a second term. He already had other signatories lined up before he lost the election. If he does actually get more countries to sign on now, with four years inbetween, he would definitely be strengthening it.

All that sounds so cool, but it doesn't mean a thing. Wishful/hopeful thinking. However, I would believe that it is at most a preview of what it could be like. An idea of what a fulfillment of the prophecy could look like. Things in the world seem to be lining up. The trampling of Jerusalem could come to an end soon, especially since Trump took the first step to recognize Jerusalem as the rightful capital of Israel by moving our embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Right now, the world is turning more and more against Israel. People are now even referring to Jews as Nazis. All I can say is watch, wait, be ready. Trump's sanity seems to have slipped quite a bit in recent times.

with this new pope from the USA who knows it could very well be and trump has a way of making peace in the middle east. We will see.

 

[John Paul]

Sventeen popes have presided over the Catholic Church since the founding of the United States. None of those men was from America. That changed Thursday when Robert Francis Prevost, son of Chicago’s South Side, emerged onto the balcony of St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome and spoke, in Italian, the words: “La pace sia con tutti voi.” Peace be with you all.

The man who is now known as Leo XIV becomes the 267th Bishop of Rome and the successor to Francis, one of the most liberal and controversial Catholic leaders ever. Leo’s own politics are thought to be more moderate. On Thursday Leo, 69, spoke in welcoming terms: “We can be a missionary church, a church that builds bridges, that is always open to receive everyone.”


It’s been said an American has never been chosen pope because the United States already holds such sway over the world politically, culturally and economically, that it would be too much to give an American immense religious power as well. No doubt, Leo’s global influence will be measured constantly by the church’s more than 1 billion adherents.

It might be his domestic influence — including over one very prominent and very conservative Catholic official in the White House, Vice President JD Vance — that bears the most attention. In February, a social media account under then-Cardinal Prevost ‘s name challenged Vance on X, repeating a headline from The National Catholic Reporter: “JD Vance is wrong: Jesus doesn’t ask us to rank our love for others.”

https://www.npr.org/

 

[DavidTree]

It's TRUMP!!! I mean, I feel that Trump is an archetype of what could be. I mean, he checks some of the boxes. The United States is considered an empire by many. We have the exact same government system as Rome, the Republic. We are a "united" country, yet we are divided. Could represent the iron/clay and toes of Nebuchadnezzar's statue. There aren't that many places that fit the description of the division as we do. He was almost assassinated, and our view, our understanding of what happened could be clouded. He was part of the push for the Abrahamic Accords (an accord is related to a covenant). He said he would strengthen it if he had a second term. He already had other signatories lined up before he lost the election. If he does actually get more countries to sign on now, with four years inbetween, he would definitely be strengthening it.

All that sounds so cool, but it doesn't mean a thing. Wishful/hopeful thinking. However, I would believe that it is at most a preview of what it could be like. An idea of what a fulfillment of the prophecy could look like. Things in the world seem to be lining up. The trampling of Jerusalem could come to an end soon, especially since Trump took the first step to recognize Jerusalem as the rightful capital of Israel by moving our embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Right now, the world is turning more and more against Israel. People are now even referring to Jews as Nazis. All I can say is watch, wait, be ready. Trump's sanity seems to have slipped quite a bit in recent times.

Trump is a strong candidate.

However, it could also be Jared Kushner who is Trump's son-in-law.

Kushner is a Jew. Being Jewish he automatically has inroads to Israel and the Jewish people.

We do know that God knows and that the Antichrist will be "revealed in his own time".

We just need to stay on track with the words of God = 2 Thess 2:5-12

Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?
And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time.
For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.
And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.
The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

 

[Selah]

The Antichrist of the 6th trump is none other than Satan. We ain’t there yet; don’t forget that the book of Revelation is mostly prophetic, telling us what will happen during the time of the great tribulation when Satan is thrown out of Heaven.

Revelation 12:7-12 (NKJV) 7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 “And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. 12 “Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”

Selah

 

[Alive]

Sventeen popes have presided over the Catholic Church since the founding of the United States. None of those men was from America. That changed Thursday when Robert Francis Prevost, son of Chicago’s South Side, emerged onto the balcony of St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome and spoke, in Italian, the words: “La pace sia con tutti voi.” Peace be with you all.

The man who is now known as Leo XIV becomes the 267th Bishop of Rome and the successor to Francis, one of the most liberal and controversial Catholic leaders ever. Leo’s own politics are thought to be more moderate. On Thursday Leo, 69, spoke in welcoming terms: “We can be a missionary church, a church that builds bridges, that is always open to receive everyone.”


It’s been said an American has never been chosen pope because the United States already holds such sway over the world politically, culturally and economically, that it would be too much to give an American immense religious power as well. No doubt, Leo’s global influence will be measured constantly by the church’s more than 1 billion adherents.

It might be his domestic influence — including over one very prominent and very conservative Catholic official in the White House, Vice President JD Vance — that bears the most attention. In February, a social media account under then-Cardinal Prevost ‘s name challenged Vance on X, repeating a headline from The National Catholic Reporter: “JD Vance is wrong: Jesus doesn’t ask us to rank our love for others.”

https://www.npr.org/

I pray the new Pope does a very good job in leading his church.